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Why does the interview with H&M cause more anger and upset than the interview with Prince Andrew?

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KarenNotAKaren · 18/01/2024 17:45

To preface - Im not a fan of Harry. Meghan I can give or take i think she mostly a victim to a husband who perhaps didn’t paint a full picture of what royal life is like and with her being American that way an easy thing to do.

Yes the Harry and Meghan interview contained porkie pies (about ‘getting married properly’, meh so what) and pretty shocking claims about racism and was full of total misunderstandings of royal protocol - such as going to HR for mental health help and then being confused when they point out you aren’t an employer. But I do feel it was their truth as to what they believe happened. I believe their behaviour is absolutely entitled and grotesque (Harry moaning about daddy cutting him off, mate your a 40yo millionaire read the room) but their anger stems from feeling genuinely wronged by people they love.

The Prince Andrew interview - he told great big fat barefaced lies that a 5yo would make up (“Oh well that can’t be true because I Erm…don’t sweat?”). All to cover up the fact he had sex with trafficked teenagers. He lied about his dodgy friendships, about medical conditions, about meeting women whose silence he later paid for. It’s absolutely outrageous that this interview as barely ever spoken about, he’s a TERRIBLE liar and I like H&M it’s not his truth it’s just a great big stonking fat lie from a nasty little pervert with an enormous sense of entitlement who has been treated pretty well and protected by mummy

Why do people get angrier about the interview if a (admittedly a bit of a tone deaf and stonking rich) couple who were actually just a bit sick of being harassed by the press and having their baby’s looks critiqued, than they do about an actual sex offender lying in his?

OP posts:
Mylovelygreendress · 19/01/2024 09:03

Josette77 · 19/01/2024 07:05

I thought we all hated PA? I thought that was a given.

h&m stay in the spotlight and complain a lot. This irritates some people.

I don't think anyone prefers PA to anyone. He's just less gossip worthy because he's out of the spotlight and we all know he is gross. Nothing more to say really.

Edited

This pretty much sums it up .

Maireas · 19/01/2024 09:05

Mylovelygreendress · 19/01/2024 09:03

This pretty much sums it up .

Spot on

MaturingCheeseball · 19/01/2024 09:09

I think 100% of people on MN who criticise H&M are in accord on this thread.

Roussette · 19/01/2024 09:10

Yet no one is interested in discussing the finer detail about Andrew or his ex wife or the fact he is trying to wheedle himself back in to the RF duties. Or the fact that he won't move out of Royal lodge despite Charles's attempts. Or anything. No one is interested, but Harry receives an award that really means nothing and there's hundreds of outraged posts
Odd

Maireas · 19/01/2024 09:12

I have never seen where Meghan taking her dog for a walk has resulted in a "frenzy".
Similarly, there have been threads on here, and various articles, very critical of Sarah Ferguson and her activities. A whole one devoted to her performance on This Morning. There's a thread running on here at the moment about Andrew. Most people are in agreement about him, some more vociferous than others.
It's not all one or another.

Roussette · 19/01/2024 09:13

I have never seen where Meghan taking her dog for a walk has resulted in a "frenzy".

I have.

Maireas · 19/01/2024 09:14

Roussette · 19/01/2024 09:13

I have never seen where Meghan taking her dog for a walk has resulted in a "frenzy".

I have.

Have you got a link?

Mylovelygreendress · 19/01/2024 09:15

Roussette · 19/01/2024 09:10

Yet no one is interested in discussing the finer detail about Andrew or his ex wife or the fact he is trying to wheedle himself back in to the RF duties. Or the fact that he won't move out of Royal lodge despite Charles's attempts. Or anything. No one is interested, but Harry receives an award that really means nothing and there's hundreds of outraged posts
Odd

I really don’t think you need to worry about Andrew returning to official duties . It won’t happen . EVER .
The business with Royal Lodge is more complicated because of the lease .
But you know that so why go on about it ?
Odd.

Roussette · 19/01/2024 09:17

Maireas · 19/01/2024 09:14

Have you got a link?

Do an advanced search... Meghan dog farmers market

By the way, I have gone on RF forum and scrolled back 150 thread titles and not one has the word Sarah in the title

KvotheTheBloodless · 19/01/2024 09:19

H & M are vacuous whinge-bags lacking entirely in self-awareness. I wish they'd bore off.

Prince Andrew is a disgusting pervert and a liar to boot - I hope that he one day is legally held accountable for abusing those young women.

Roussette · 19/01/2024 09:20

Mylovelygreendress · 19/01/2024 09:15

I really don’t think you need to worry about Andrew returning to official duties . It won’t happen . EVER .
The business with Royal Lodge is more complicated because of the lease .
But you know that so why go on about it ?
Odd.

Shall I tell you why I in your words 'go on about it?'

Because it is absolutely appalling that a man like Andrew can live on a royal estate with 98 acres with his ex-wife of over 30 years and no one bat an eyelid. He has been offered a royal property but refuses. Complicated or not, he could give up the lease

I'm sorry to disappoint you, but I will keep on about it if I so wish

Maireas · 19/01/2024 09:21

Roussette · 19/01/2024 09:17

Do an advanced search... Meghan dog farmers market

By the way, I have gone on RF forum and scrolled back 150 thread titles and not one has the word Sarah in the title

Well, I was on a thread where people were criticising her appearance on This Morning, in no uncertain terms. Why don't you search for that?
Oh, and I do think "frenzy" is a strong word for comments on the pap situation at that market.
However, I'm not on social media, so I have no idea what's commented on in that cesspit.

Maireas · 19/01/2024 09:21

no-one bats an eyelid?!
About Andrew? Really?!

Roussette · 19/01/2024 09:22

Maireas · 19/01/2024 09:21

no-one bats an eyelid?!
About Andrew? Really?!

As I made quite clear in my post, I am talking about him living in Royal lodge so don't try and twist my words thank you.

Maireas · 19/01/2024 09:24

KvotheTheBloodless · 19/01/2024 09:19

H & M are vacuous whinge-bags lacking entirely in self-awareness. I wish they'd bore off.

Prince Andrew is a disgusting pervert and a liar to boot - I hope that he one day is legally held accountable for abusing those young women.

I wish. However, I suspect that he, and other powerful rich men will not be brought to justice for their acts against those young women. So many named, so little justice.

Maireas · 19/01/2024 09:25

Roussette · 19/01/2024 09:22

As I made quite clear in my post, I am talking about him living in Royal lodge so don't try and twist my words thank you.

People do "bat an eyelid" about him living in Royal Lodge. It's on here all the time, including the thread I have just linked.
Thank you.

Flowerybeing · 19/01/2024 09:28

Andrew is treated as the "pervy uncle", meaning that his actions are terrible but he's still "family" type of thing.

In contrast Meghan is seen as an outsider who "manipulated" her way into the family because how was an older mixed race divorced woman from America (definitely not the description of an English rose)able to date/marry one of their most popular royal at the time. She elicits very intense emotions in some people, be it anger, love, jealousy, puzzlement or contempt .She is rarely seen and has lived in another country for 4 years but you would never tell from the constant discussions or multiple news articles about her. The problem is that someone with her background was never supposed to be part of the royal family. Thus, she's not "family" like "pervy uncle" but an usurper. Since Harry is part of the "family", he rarely evokes the same vitriol as Meghan. Thus in her position as an outsider, she was supposed to just be grateful to be part of the family and receive whatever treatment was thrown at her by the press or whoever. The Oprah interview was an affront to this supposed deal. Hence to this day it's still framed as, how dare you complain when we let you in, you outsider! I don't see this changing for a while. This vitriol has unfortunately also trickled down to their children.

Roussette · 19/01/2024 09:29

Maireas · 19/01/2024 09:25

People do "bat an eyelid" about him living in Royal Lodge. It's on here all the time, including the thread I have just linked.
Thank you.

It really isn't on here all the time. By me maybe yes

Roussette · 19/01/2024 09:29

Great post @Flowerybeing

MissTrip82 · 19/01/2024 09:30

HidingFromDD · 19/01/2024 05:58

Surely this is a ref to ‘what is it that makes you so attracted to the millionaire Paul Daniels’. I’m very surprised most people didn’t spot that. Maybe I’m old

Very obvious to me too. Surely people are familiar with this reference?

To answer the OP - the venn diagram
of racists and people who will find every excuse
for crimes against women and children is basically a circle.

Maireas · 19/01/2024 09:30

Roussette · 19/01/2024 09:29

It really isn't on here all the time. By me maybe yes

They do criticise him living in Royal Lodge. I have myself, and will do so again - that man should not be living on a Royal Estate.

Morewineplease10 · 19/01/2024 09:32

I'm more angry about 'Prince Andrew' but I agree the general public are more invested in news around Harry and Megan.

Misogyny, maybe racism?

It's very unfair imo.

Thecompleteposter · 19/01/2024 09:39

Prince Andrew is in his sixties. He has been on his way out for years. He is the older generation. Harry and Meghan seemed so young and fresh and seemed to represent the youthful side of the Royal Family. However, they are starting to feel a bit middle aged with kids. I think the next focus will be on William and Charlotte and the Royal youngsters.

GreatAuntMaude · 19/01/2024 09:50

Roussette · 19/01/2024 08:54

Not that he isn't as bad as H and M, that is a ridiculous thing to say.

Why do you say this? You need to be telling that to the posters who insist this.

Calling posters 'a cheerleading squad' is just goading.

Why did I say that? Because the two posters Brittle veneers and Roulette who posted after my earlier post interpreted my post that way, that I was saying Andrew was "not as bad" as Hand M because he spoke in defence whereas they attacked.

I wasn't calling "posters" a cheerleading squad. I was referring to general people. No one speaks in Andrew's defence anywhere really.