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Omid Scobie Endgame PART 3

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Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstotheyard · 01/12/2023 10:32

La Pom Pom Girl is doing the Double Dutch. But who is turning the skipping ropes? Part three/trois/drie of the continuing discussion of Endgame by Omid Scobie. Previous thread:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/the_royal_family/4951834-omid-scobies-new-book-part-2

Omid Scobie's New Book - PART 2 | Mumsnet

I'm not sure what is the correct etiquette for carrying on a thread, but here we are. Thanks to {mention:BoxedandRibboned} for the original thread....

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/the_royal_family/4951834-omid-scobies-new-book-part-2

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HonoriaLucastaDelagardie · 02/12/2023 18:27

The thing is if the palace don’t react, yet again there are no consequences to their actions....

The consequence is that they wull be frozen out, whether private family events or official public events. That invitation to Sandringham will not be forthcoming. They will not have that shot of them walking to church with the King and Queen on Christmas morning to remind people of their royal connections. They will become irrelevant.

I think the freezing out is already happening, in fact. H wasn't invited to the private family dinner at Birkhall after the Queen died. There was no chitchat in the car on the way to the Windsor walkabout with W & C. They are not being given any opportunity to pick up information which they can pass on to 'friends'.

Mylovelygreendress · 02/12/2023 18:28

smilesy · 02/12/2023 17:04

What I am wondering is, if the Sussexes had stayed as part of the RF, would any of these accusations have ever have surfaced?

Of course not . It all boils down to them being refused the half in/ half out they wanted .

Makemydaypunk · 02/12/2023 18:34

Puzzledandpissedoff · 02/12/2023 18:24

But even if it was the right thing to do, what possible consequences could the palace put in place which would shut Scobie, H and M up?

I suppose they could risk suing over such-and-such a claim, but how would that stop them just coming up with another one?

I don’t know what the answer is, hopefully they will have really dug their own graves now and there won’t be anyway back into the fold.

diddl · 02/12/2023 18:35

Makemydaypunk · 02/12/2023 18:09

The thing is if the palace don’t react, yet again there are no consequences to their actions so in a few months time once the dust has settled on this sorry saga there will be something else that they will do, how much more can one family take?

If they keep doing that though it shows it up even more for the petty shit it is.

I think already people are losing sight of what is supposedly at the heart of this-racism & thinking "Oh more mud slinging" & tuning out.

Mylovelygreendress · 02/12/2023 18:40

Makemydaypunk · 02/12/2023 18:09

The thing is if the palace don’t react, yet again there are no consequences to their actions so in a few months time once the dust has settled on this sorry saga there will be something else that they will do, how much more can one family take?

I think the only thing that would hurt is the removal of titles .

( cue - “ what about Andrew”)

Whinge · 02/12/2023 18:42

Mylovelygreendress · 02/12/2023 18:40

I think the only thing that would hurt is the removal of titles .

( cue - “ what about Andrew”)

It would hurt, but I actually think they would love for their titles to be removed. As it would give them something real to whinge about, rather than making shit up. 🤣

Puzzledandpissedoff · 02/12/2023 18:44

I think already people are losing sight of what is supposedly at the heart of this-racism & thinking "Oh more mud slinging" & tuning out

Yes, and for those who actually care about racism that's a worry

I'd hope most of us would want it to be identified, rooted out and dealt with, but that's not so easy when it hangs on vague accusations with no detail or context - however enjoyable making those accusations may be for some

StormzyinaTCup · 02/12/2023 18:49

TroglodytesTroglodytes · 02/12/2023 18:08

I’ve just listened to James O’Brien’s podcast, Omid was this weeks guest. It was interesting that he made the point about the press chasing Rose Hanbury before loads of negative stories and H&M came out to distract them. It was definitely a warning that he will talk more about the Rose Hanbury story if the palace escalate him naming the ‘racist’ royals.

Good grief - Scobie really is on a bitchfest.

He seems to be taking this all rather personally, which is odd. I didn't realise he had such strong feelings against the P&PofW and I'm now wondering if perhaps he has at some point had a run in with PofW where he ended up in a dog bowl with a broken necklace or something? 😉

On a more serious note, he is going to trip himself up massively if he continues with the blabbing, the veiled threats, the "I know something you don't' and general name calling playground nonsense. He'll end up in court and backed into a corner I reckon he'd sing like a canary.

SkyFullofStars1975 · 02/12/2023 18:50

I have no care for their titles although I do think they should only apply when they're in the UK, but I do object to their place in the LoS.

I seriously hope that William is now not flying or driving with George. You shouldn't have to even think of these things but an accident wiping out the Wales family would be unthinkable given that Harry is right behind them...

Chouxpastryishard · 02/12/2023 18:53

HonoriaLucastaDelagardie · 02/12/2023 18:27

The thing is if the palace don’t react, yet again there are no consequences to their actions....

The consequence is that they wull be frozen out, whether private family events or official public events. That invitation to Sandringham will not be forthcoming. They will not have that shot of them walking to church with the King and Queen on Christmas morning to remind people of their royal connections. They will become irrelevant.

I think the freezing out is already happening, in fact. H wasn't invited to the private family dinner at Birkhall after the Queen died. There was no chitchat in the car on the way to the Windsor walkabout with W & C. They are not being given any opportunity to pick up information which they can pass on to 'friends'.

There won’t be any more letters, that’s for sure .

Puzzledandpissedoff · 02/12/2023 19:05

He seems to be taking this all rather personally, which is odd

I thought he'd complained about being "kept away" from royal events Stormzy?

If it's true - and surely nobody would blame the family for this at least - I can see he might welcome the chance to have a pop at those he considers most responsible

MrsLeonFarrell · 02/12/2023 19:06

Did Omid really threaten to talk about Rose?

Add that to the rude comments about Catherine and the racism thing and it seems like he is desperately trying to turn the public against her by any means necessary. The Dutch leak hasn't worked so now he is hinting at the "affair"story, which I have never believed anyway.

At this point I think this about Omid's issues rather than anyone else.

Lunde · 02/12/2023 19:07

diddl · 02/12/2023 16:52

I think fir a while the D&D of Windsor were quite feted.

Didn't they end up just about scrounging off others though?

Living rent free?

Maybe wrong.

Edward VIII also forced his brother to buy his personal properties in Britain - Sandringham and Balmoral - which it said he very much disliked as he found the countryside boring. George VI paid £300,000, around £26 million adjusted for inflation but in reality worth a lot more given the rise in property prices.

cyclamenqueen · 02/12/2023 19:08

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstotheyard · 02/12/2023 17:26

I didn't know those properties went into Edward's personal ownership, regardless of his status as king/abdicator. I thought they would just pass to whoever was monarch at any given time.

Balmoral and Sandringham are private homes . They were bought by Queen Victoria , Sandringham as a home for Edward VII ( her eldest son) on his marriage and Balmoral as a family home with Prince Albert .

cyclamenqueen · 02/12/2023 19:12

googlejourney · 02/12/2023 17:41

It would be a great relief to us all if the palace would just carry out a full investigation, make a full statement about the racism accusations, briefing against H&M, and anything else they'd like to get off their chest. Make it clear that the Sussexes will or won't be keeping their titles, ensure us they are out of the royal inner circle, and are now irrelevant.

So they can move in with their work, if Charles doesn't decisively draw a line under this now and end it his entire reign will be plagued and overshadowed by Harry's accusations and complaining.

Times have changed, with digital and social media, stories, gossip & bullying carries on gaining a life if it's own. It's not like in the Queen's day, when todays newspapers were used to wrap tomorrows fish & chips in and stories were soon forgotten.

I think this would be very sensible . Calm, clear and professional , I think Charles would go well to focus on professionalising the monarchy making it more of a service and less of a family soap opera

RecoIIectionsMayVary · 02/12/2023 19:17

If PW had an affair would anyone really care- posh bloke cheats, it is hardly extraordinary. If anything I think it would make people feel sorry for Kate.

Regards the freezing out I completely agree, I've seen it happen in real life where the bully was frozen out, they wanted a fight but got grey rock instead. It was surprising effective, not so much in the short term but definitely in the long term.

JSMill · 02/12/2023 19:17

MrsLeonFarrell · 02/12/2023 19:06

Did Omid really threaten to talk about Rose?

Add that to the rude comments about Catherine and the racism thing and it seems like he is desperately trying to turn the public against her by any means necessary. The Dutch leak hasn't worked so now he is hinting at the "affair"story, which I have never believed anyway.

At this point I think this about Omid's issues rather than anyone else.

Feels a lot like bullying doesn't it?

Puzzledandpissedoff · 02/12/2023 19:21

Did Omid really threaten to talk about Rose?

Not quite, @MrsLeonFarrell
The (I think original?) story's below, but what he chose to do is drag up the rumour again while saying there wasn't any evidence - in other words getting the dirt into the story while covering himself

https://www.etonline.com/prince-william-affair-allegations-endgame-author-omid-scobie-weighs-in-exclusive-215655

Prince William and Kate Middleton

Prince William Affair Allegations: 'Endgame' Author Weighs In

Omid Scobie writes about the Prince of Wales' alleged affair with Rose Hanbury.

https://www.etonline.com/prince-william-affair-allegations-endgame-author-omid-scobie-weighs-in-exclusive-215655

MrsLeonFarrell · 02/12/2023 19:29

Puzzledandpissedoff · 02/12/2023 19:21

Did Omid really threaten to talk about Rose?

Not quite, @MrsLeonFarrell
The (I think original?) story's below, but what he chose to do is drag up the rumour again while saying there wasn't any evidence - in other words getting the dirt into the story while covering himself

https://www.etonline.com/prince-william-affair-allegations-endgame-author-omid-scobie-weighs-in-exclusive-215655

Thanks for the link.

The more extracts I see the more Omid is coming across as really partisan and mean, rather than the writer of a serious, impartial look at monarchy and its future he obviously sees himself as.

Each extract also distances him from Harry and Meghan to my mind. I think he is writing the stuff he maybe thinks they want him to write but forgetting that Harry is actually a member of the family he is being so incredibly unpleasant about.

I am coming round to the theory that we have heard nothing from the Sussexes because they are embarrassed by such a book being written by their cheerleader and have finally learnt that silence makes the story go away faster. I hope the royal family stays silent as well because the less reaction they give the more Omid makes himself look bad in interviews and the less effect his nasty gossip will have.

Singingseals · 02/12/2023 19:36

MrsLeonFarrell · 02/12/2023 19:29

Thanks for the link.

The more extracts I see the more Omid is coming across as really partisan and mean, rather than the writer of a serious, impartial look at monarchy and its future he obviously sees himself as.

Each extract also distances him from Harry and Meghan to my mind. I think he is writing the stuff he maybe thinks they want him to write but forgetting that Harry is actually a member of the family he is being so incredibly unpleasant about.

I am coming round to the theory that we have heard nothing from the Sussexes because they are embarrassed by such a book being written by their cheerleader and have finally learnt that silence makes the story go away faster. I hope the royal family stays silent as well because the less reaction they give the more Omid makes himself look bad in interviews and the less effect his nasty gossip will have.

I honestly hope you are right about the reason for the Sussex’s silence, I find the whole thing dreadfully sad.

IcedPurple · 02/12/2023 19:40

Each extract also distances him from Harry and Meghan to my mind. I think he is writing the stuff he maybe thinks they want him to write but forgetting that Harry is actually a member of the family he is being so incredibly unpleasant about.

Harry may not have been involved but Meghan? That's another story. The obsessive focus on Kate, and the details regarding this alleged letter, have to have come from her. The same with 'Finding Freedom'. She was definitely his source for that 'book', with all the gushing praise of how amazing she is.

Boredatthemoment · 02/12/2023 19:41

I am completely lost with all of this. Why would MM write a letter to Charles exposing the 2 racist people when one of them was him. Maybe it is just the way the press have worded it but it sounds strange.

Makemydaypunk · 02/12/2023 19:43

Does anyone know what the reaction to the revealing of the ‘royal racists’ has been in America? From my feed it’s nothing like the aftermath of the Oprah interview, has Gail King come out in support of H&M?

Mylovelygreendress · 02/12/2023 20:22

I have just read on X/Twitter that the Duke of Westminster is not invitingly H and M to his wedding even though he ( apparently ) is Archie’s Godfather .

Maireas · 02/12/2023 20:24

The Duke of Westminster is George's godfather. Is he Archie's as well?

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