"Heart of Invictus" documentary series, streaming 30 August 2023

[MrsMaxDeWinter]

The trailer for 'Heart of Invictus" has been released by Netflix, and it looks incredible, and so moving.

For those interested, please find it here.

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@Angrycat2768 that poster literally is not engaging in a good faith discussion on this thread about the documentary and the upcoming games - I wouldn’t bother.

Thank you.

You are so right.

Here is Invictus announcement
The #InvictusGames Düsseldorf 2023 will feature 10 sports and the debut of Table Tennis!

The team behind @InvictusGamesDE choose to include table tennis, as the sport can be played through a variety of adaptive measures and is inclusive to all! #WeAreInvictus

it was in response to a previous poster. Also, Andrew is worse I agree but Harry would definitely be a disaster if ever the worst case scenario happens. That would probably signal the start of an actual republican movement if that were to be the case.

I guess you must have missed out on the other posters from the previous pages who also weren’t just focused on discussing the games and documentary. I responded to a previous post on this thread that had nothing to do with this topic.

I’m absolutely looking forward to the Invictus documentary and the games in September!

In the spirit of these games and respect for our veterans, let’s try to use the rest of this thread for positivity and awareness only.

Hear hear 👏🏾

You’re welcome. I agree it’s a fantastic organisation and it’s going from strength to strength. There have been some great announcements in recent months, highlighting its expansion and success.

My first choice was MissAnneElliot but it’s unavailable ☺️

Excellent post and what an insult to the many veterans who also suffer PTSD and poor mental health. How ironic to criticise Harry for having struggles when he is helping veterans with similar problems and this whole thread is supposed to be about the Invictus Games, but no let's use it to bash Harry over and over again. It's disgraceful.

I wasn't going to bother watching but I think I will 😄 The thing is, all the adverse criticism levelled at Harry and all the people watching it to pick holes ( including press) will give it bumper viewing figures! If people who say they don't want to hear from them stopped doing Google searches for their names or obsessively poring over every single thing printed about them, they would go away because there would be no inerest in them. But they can't help themselves!

I do think there is a valid point to be made in there somewhere. There are problematic people who hide behind mental health-style vernacular to bully or harass people in a way it feels like you can’t criticise them for. Good therapy is not just good for yourself, it’s good for everyone around you. If Harry exhibits Behaviour A and says this is because of Trauma B, that doesn’t necessarily mean that A is a good behaviour that doesn’t hurt anyone and can’t be criticised.

I also think he has misunderstood a few concepts in therapy! In CBT/CPT sometimes (if you have a good therapist and enough sessions!) you start by talking about significant events from your past that help you understand how your core beliefs and rules for living came to exist. Harry talks about it like that history is evidence for his core beliefs though (whereas the next step in therapy would be to find examples which break his rules) - that History A caused him to act out Behaviour B 30 years later. That’s not really the point though. The objective of therapy is not to have another go at winning every argument you’ve ever been involved in, that’s not healthy.

I also think there’s a real discrepancy between how MH is talked about. On one hand you always hear “we need to talk more about MH, we need to talk more about men’s MH” over and over again. On the other hand we also (with the best intentions) say that people should have a tolerance of some very destructive behaviours that may ultimately impact their own MH. So through the gap you have some very dodgy people, usually men (see custody battles, abusive relationships, “sex addicts”, etc) wrapping up excuses in some twisted therapy-sounding language that is not actually therapy but makes their victim believe they can’t even object.

I don’t know what the answer is unfortunately. I just wanted to say it’s not as black & white as some seem to think, and we should keep an open mind.

Are the Games going to be televised?

Update: it will be on the BBC!!

@PrincessTigger this is not the thread for that discussion and its insensitive. Lets focus on the games please.

Yes! Table tennis! I love playing it-although I am not that good- and watching it! Shame if it's not televised but hopefully there will be something of the games on.

I’m growing a little tired of the policing. You share this space with other people. We have different life experiences. I’m not going to stop talking about a very personal subject because someone is always going to have an issue with it.

You do it too, when theres a sensitive issue thats affected you and peoples prejudices pop up. So I shall continue to call out people who are either derailing the thread or who think its appropriate to malign people for struggling with mental health. Attacking someone for how you think, with your limited knowledge of the situation, that they are dealing with their mental health, is horrible. It has been discussed in a disparaging way on this thread already and its harmful to do that. If you want to keep triggering people by dissecting how someone else you don't know deals with their PTSD, go for it. This thread is meant to be about the games and all the athletes, many of whom haven't talked about their struggles early enough because of attitudes like yours and other posters. Judging how someone else deals with their trauma, especially when trauma responses aren't always controllable, is low to me. its not the thread for it.

Announcement/Update

High-ranking visitors to the “aktuelle sportstudio”: Prince Harry, The Duke of Sussex Founding Patron of the Invictus Games Foundation and Federal Minister of Defense Boris Pistorius will be guests on Saturday, September 9, 2023, from 11 p.m. at ZDF’s “aktuelle sportstudio” in Mainz. Together with three participants of the “Invictus Games”, the panel with Kathrin Müller-Hohenstein and Sven Voss will discuss the international sports competition for wounded, injured and sick service personnel.

Prince Harry, The Duke of Sussex, founded the Invictus Games in 2014. Through the power of sport, the Invictus Games supports the recovery and rehabilitation of participating servicewomen and men, while promoting a broader understanding and respect for them.

This year, for the first time, the games will take place in Germany from September 9th to 16th, in Düsseldorf. After the official Opening Ceremony, The Duke of Sussex and the German Federal Minister of Defense will be guests on “aktuelle sportstudio”. Two Afghanistan veterans and Invictus Games competitors will join. American Angelo Anderson suffered complicated gunshot wounds to the arm and thigh during his deployment. He was at the first games in London in 2014 and now works for the Invictus Games Foundation. The German Jens Niemeyer suffered a post-traumatic stress injury during his deployment in Afghanistan. He competes for Germany at the Invictus Games and visits the “aktuelle sportstudio” together with his wife Nicole.

The “aktuelle sportstudio” starts at 11 p.m. and is moderated by Kathrin Müller-Hohenstein and Sven Voss.

The show is offered with subtitles.

I love table tennis too! We were a big family, and would put a net up on the kitchen table. I'm not good at it, but sometimes I would blast a shot, and think I was 🤣

That Bill was put forwards my one of the MPs for York.

I doubt the Sussexes were a consideration at all

Back to the Games - as Harry was one of the key players in moving the US Warrior Games concept into different countries, of course it's fine for him to be there and even to speak. But he really isn't involved much directly now, so I don't think he has a role now other than a bit of glad-handing.

I hope the rumours of Meghan speaking/hosting are wrong, as she doesn't have a role (it would be like Tim Lawrence speaking at an Olympic event - fine for him to be there as Princess Anne's +1, but not to have a role)

Yes let's ignore harry’s foibles and white wash his racist behaviour because of this upcoming documentary and games (the games he got by virtue of being a royal). Why, him saying that he saw the taliban as nothing more than chess pieces, compared killing to a video game, and then called someone a pki and rhead, oh and him getting special treatment by skipping a drug test, why it's all merely a misunderstanding and harry really truly is the hero/saviour that the veterans look up to. 🙄

I’ve already explained I’ve no interest in the policing. We have the MN mods already. Unless things radically change, I won’t engage again.

I think she spoke last time unless I’m misremembering?

Really inspirational. These vets who have been through the mill, risen above it are a testament to the power of positive mental attitude. Nowadays when some seem to wallow, complain, blame and live with bitterness and resentment it really is great to see.

An inspiration to us all let's hope some of it rubs off on Haz.

I think she spoke last time unless I’m misremembering?

She did. And I don’t think it’s at all inappropriate - it’s Harry’s project, but she is Harry’s wife. And she is a very confident public speaker. It makes perfect sense to utilise both halves of a power couple when they want the event to get maximum publicity and for the attendees to feel special.

Power couple?

Kate gave an award at Earthshot too. I think it’s fine. A spouse is an easy booking 😆