Kate Hate

[MamoruHisaishi]

I came across some old threads in other forums and also articles where Catherine was being criticized for being lazy, dumb, overrated, a gold digger and called all sorts of names. There were even threads that questioned why people disliked her so much, and multiple pages of replies stating why she was so disliked. I am wondering why this seems to have now been forgotten, even if Meghan became the new media target, why is it hardly mentioned the amount of hate and vitriol that Catherine went through?

Thank you @Roussette for bringing the montage to a wider audience. It was easier to pretend it didn't exist on the other thread. DW behaviour through Twitter illustrates some of the 'hate' towards W&M. DW is a close friend of Jason Knauf who in turn is close to William.

The montage is a sample of his rants through Twitter. There are countless articles and broadcasts in a similar vein and not just from him. I had given a quick snapshot earlier in the DW thread.

Why should you not share the montage on this thread? As you stated the OP mentions Meghan in her opening and subsequent posts and indeed in many other threads and posts. As do many others.

Sorry @unbelieveable22 I meant to mention it came from you!

The thing is, you have to look for this stuff. Most people I know are indifferent about the royals, and if H&M were mentioned they’d think they’re annoying but that’s about it.

I have never seen Dan Wooton - why would I go looking for him, especially if I were a M&H fan? Last night I came across Lady C on YouTube and took a look because people have mentioned her on here. What a loon! I have seen enough.

M&H, as a previous poster observed, have positioned themselves as “celebrities” and as such are going to have the fans and haters that anyone similar might attract. The only way to throw off the packs is to go to ground for quite some while.

It's so funny to me how everyone cries Social Media, when the originators are the British press on our telly screens and publications.
I'm not going to post all the vile things, but GBNews has a daily slot (in fact several I believe) on bashing Meghan.

Did Kate ever get Monologues like this, calling out panelist to have a pop at her? Never.

https://twitter.com/Cromwell606/status/1683784128427073536

https://twitter.com/StopFundingHate/status/1683826885921239040

https://twitter.com/DaTrinigyl2/status/1544271440840630272

@notanotheroneagain thanks for that. Like hearing rather than reading some posts on here. 🤔
@Roussette I picked it up elsewhere and thought it might resonate with some here.

I don’t spend my time trawling sites looking for things to be offended by.

Highly recommend it

The only way to throw off the packs is to go to ground for quite some while.

That's what they are doing now, Meghan has been barely seen, but it doesn't stop. If anything it ramps up, dragging up misdemeanours from years ago. The gutter press were beside themselves when H&M cut them out, hence scratching around for anything to denigrate them about.

Indeed @Howsimplywonderful , I only see this stuff on here , posted by others, I only see news or articles, I'm largely unaware of all this 'hate' .
I recommend staying away from places like ' twitter' much more relaxing!

@jeffgoldblum

so true, spending your days reading this stuff must make you so angry, and itching for a fight

so where is all the Kate hate on here.
for us who don't go on twitter.

It's not about seeking it out, it's not about looking for it, it's about the media being swamped with it, and finding it hard to avoid.

I don't think calling out hate about two women is 'itching for a fight', it's being on the right side in criticising the toxic media who throw out sensationalised stories about women to the public

Do you think I’m an idiot. I’m not going to click on some random link.

Tbf any thread that starts with Kate is wonderful gets a barrage of it.

The op was talking about initially though and the mood was much more hostile. Similar to Camilla and Fergie at the start.

They have it tough then it can change

I’m not swamped by hate.

My newspaper choices hardly mention them. I’ve blocked all tabloids / vogue / Harper bazaar etc from Facebook/lG feeds. They don’t even show up as ‘suggested’ any more
I don’t go on Twitter. I briefly did after Jan 6 but that’s it

my favourite podcast (rest is history) mentions them the very odd time in passing,

Its not that hard

I don't know about any random link. Not sure who that is directed at.

The one that was marked here in an earlier post by Samcro.

I just avoid lots of things like that as I don’t want to be hacked.

@Samcro

not that I’m saying you’re a hacker, but I’m just super cautious

Samcro didn't include a link..........

She meant here on MN.

It's not clickable!

@Samcro just highlighted the word 'here'. That's all

Twitter has algorithms that are driven not only to show you what you’re interested in but also the most extreme views get the most engagement. The fact we are on here in the RF section shows we are interested!

If I was giving M&H advice I wouldn’t tell them to go quiet I’d tell them to be seen constantly doing things that are completely uncontroversial. Every day be seen helping at a local soup kitchen, attend a local parade (not grainy photos like July 4th but actually make a point that you’re there), helping out local charities, post a video asking people to come volunteer, donate supplies, play with the kiddies in the park, etc etc etc. Don’t do any of the things you get criticised for (no flying, no complaining, no suing, no picking fights). Don’t take your own photographers (it will be viewed badly), call the media ahead (that’s called publicity it’s normal). Be over-exposed and over-seen doing things which are not controversial at all, because then the critics will look absolutely unhinged. When someone like Jeremy Clarkson goes too far be so magnanimous it’s almost passive aggressive (“I was so upset and frightened when I read your comments, I am glad you have now seen they were misogynistic and hurtful and made light of a very serious form of abuse, we all make mistakes so I hope you will take this as an opportunity to grow” and not “apology not accepted, wanker” even if the latter is a true expression of most people’s feelings 😂😂)

Even if you think it’s 100% tabloid driven they wouldn’t have much success pushing a narrative that you’re self-absorbed if people were being utterly bombarded with evidence you aren’t.

Compare to W&K for example: every single day they are seen doing something, some engagement. Shaking hands, playing sports, opening women’s centres, launching a project for something uncontroversial (nobody wants homelessness, everyone likes small children). The people desperately trying to find ways in which to criticise them end up looking really petty. You may know Amanda Matta who really doesn’t like Kate, but her trying to find a way that whatever Kate’s doing is actually bad always seems so small - it’s always “here’s Kate opening a shelter for orphaned Andrex puppies, but she’s ruined it by wearing those earrings, try harder Kate”. Nowadays narratives that W&K are lazy (which used to be common in tabloids) die on launch because people see them every day. I think I’ve seen Kate more than my own mother over the past month!

well here is as in here......on mn. no link attached. so there you go , your nasty stir didn't work.

@PrincessTigger

Thats a really insightful post.
With the American elections coming up, it’s a good time.

@Samcro

i’m so sorry I thought the here was an internet link to something else as sometimes posters link like than on the style threads to websites

Anyway I’m not paying for mumsnet premium so can’t do advanced searches and i’m not spending my day doing it manually
. @Serenster did post some before, the comment ‘I wish Kate would just go and die’ stuck in my memory (unsurprisingly)

Interesting post PrincessTigger and that's lots I agree with.

Except K&W really are not doing something like that every day, if they were it would be in the media. It isn't. Polo and Wimbledon appear to be the last engagements. Nothing else on the Court Circular, unless I've missed something.

However I find your M&H advice interesting, thank you, a lot of sound advice there.

If I was giving M&H advice I wouldn’t tell them to go quiet I’d tell them to be seen constantly doing things that are completely uncontroversial. Every day be seen helping at a local soup kitchen, attend a local parade (not grainy photos like July 4th but actually make a point that you’re there), helping out local charities, post a video asking people to come volunteer, donate supplies, play with the kiddies in the park, etc etc etc.

Yes, give them more ammunition to twist things and say how much your an attention seeker and nitpick how this was not allowed, but you did it. Blow up the budget of your wardrobe to state how you visited poor people with an 'exclusive branded' t-shirt that costs £20, but overall with that watch and wedding rings your outfit cost £6K.

no suing

Yep, let us lie about you and print pics of your children in their own background and publish your personal letters etc.

Don’t take your own photographers (it will be viewed badly)

Yes again. So you can be called attention seeking for calling photographers who can manipulate the footage to seem like something it's not.

Be over-exposed and over-seen doing things which are not controversial at all,

Yes. Like that time you went on a walk and to the market and were called attention seeking. Or that time you went to an actual charity and was once again attention seeking.

because then the critics will look absolutely unhinged.
Actually, they already look unhinged.

When someone like Jeremy Clarkson goes too far be so magnanimous it’s almost passive aggressive (“I was so upset and frightened when I read your comments, I am glad you have now seen they were misogynistic and hurtful and made light of a very serious form of abuse, we all make mistakes so I hope you will take this as an opportunity to grow” and not “apology not accepted, wanker” even if the latter is a true expression of most people’s feelings 😂😂)

Yes, engage with your troll who clearly is looking for exactly that. Oh, and be kind to him.

Even if you think it’s 100% tabloid driven they wouldn’t have much success pushing a narrative that you’re self-absorbed if people were being utterly bombarded with evidence you aren’t.
The audience is already utterly bombarded with a narrative without you going out and saying anything at all.

Compare to W&K for example:
W&K get positive coverage no matter what.