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MarcelProust · 22/06/2023 06:47

And did anyone see or photograph Meghan on a private jet? Everyone seems rather sure.
Or is it going to be like the time she took a private jet to see Serena, only for the mail to sit on pics of her boarding commercial and release them a few weeks later.

They recently tried it with Harry, except on 2 occasions passengers snapped him (not even on 1st class)and quickly put it up on social media from disbelief. Other times it was the paps waiting at the runway.

LadyMuckingabout · 22/06/2023 09:12

It really is hard to wriggle out of the fact that visiting Uvalde was a poor move. Even if she travelled by Greyhound bus.

Re the “grifting” and charity, Meghan & Harry received an award of an ongoing annual $100k from NAACP. They then announced that Archewell was giving an annual award of - you guessed it - $100k. That $100k is doing more rounds than a Baylis & Harding gift set.

Howsimplywonderful · 22/06/2023 09:30

sussex fans donated to Kaboom

SoTedious · 22/06/2023 09:31

*When Sean Penn went to Haiti after Hurricane Katrina, no one bet an eyelid, it was a hard hitting thing to happen. I think most people were encouraged to donate with the publicity he brought to see how serious the whole thing was.

Celebrities go overseas all the time to help with some kind of relief or the other.* But apparently, exclusively, Meghan is not allowed.

There was a lot to do in Haiti. Sean Penn was accused of showboating there, but at least he did stuff, and helping with relief and raising awareness was useful. But there wasn't anything for Meghan to do in Uvalde except intrude on the community's grief and take the attention away from the victims and onto herself. There was no need to raise awareness. Her being there did not make it a bigger story than it was already, on the contrary it was a distraction.

Ninaplant · 22/06/2023 09:39

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skullbabe · 22/06/2023 09:40

Re the “grifting” and charity, Meghan & Harry received an award of an ongoing annual $100k from NAACP. They then announced that Archewell was giving an annual award of - you guessed it - $100k. That $100k is doing more rounds than a Baylis & Harding gift set.

They did not receive an award of $100k from the NAACP.

skullbabe · 22/06/2023 09:41

sussex fans donated to Kaboom

How terrible

SaxSick · 22/06/2023 09:45

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So honestly who really cares about the unhinged, baseless speculation and frankly the lack of media literacy displayed by some on this thread.

Yet again laying into people who have a different opinion from you describing them as unhinged?

Iwantcakeeveryday · 22/06/2023 09:47

*“A conversation the coach had with a staff member of Markle’s sparked an initiative that led to 100s of thousands of dollars worth of playground improvements at 2 local parks, and volunteers are being sought to help with another build at UDLA on May 13.

She said she was impressed by how much compassion Markle showed to community members after the tragedy.

“Meghan Markle “won me over that day. Her gentleness, her empathy, everything – just seeing her make eye contact, getting on her knees, crying. It was just such a great experience for me to see being that I didn’t really know her,” Sandoval said.”

“It was an act of courage because it took a courageous act for me to talk to her and ask her about playgrounds, and the fact that it didn’t go on deaf ears, that she saw my passion and she saw my plea is amazing,” Sandoval said.”*

Full article can be found here:
https://www.uvaldeleadernews.com/articles/volunteers-need-to-build-playground-at-udla/

Thank you for sharing this @Ninaplant and adding some much needed balance.

Volunteers need to build playground at UDLA - Uvalde Leader News

Uvalde Dual Language Academy is getting a new playground on May 13, the culmination of decades of effort by Coach Norma Sandoval, aided by a chance encounter with Meghan Markle. A conversation the coach had with a staff member of Markle’s sparked an in...

https://www.uvaldeleadernews.com/articles/volunteers-need-to-build-playground-at-udla/

SaxSick · 22/06/2023 09:48

MarcelProust · 22/06/2023 06:47

And did anyone see or photograph Meghan on a private jet? Everyone seems rather sure.
Or is it going to be like the time she took a private jet to see Serena, only for the mail to sit on pics of her boarding commercial and release them a few weeks later.

They recently tried it with Harry, except on 2 occasions passengers snapped him (not even on 1st class)and quickly put it up on social media from disbelief. Other times it was the paps waiting at the runway.

Do you have evidence to the contrary about this trip then?

Puzzledandpissedoff · 22/06/2023 10:03

... she actually took the focus from the tragedy, the victims, their families and community, and it became about her

Nothing new about that; Harry did exactly the same when he hijacked Invictus to yammer on about how the Queen told him things she couldn't tell anyone else/needed him to "make sure she had the right people around her", to say nothing of Meghan's sobfest in a South African township of all places

Fundamentally they just don't get that not every blasted thing has to be about them all the time. Yes, a lot of other RF visits are pure PR, but at least they manage not to make it so blatantly obvious or to indulge in crass behaviour quite so often

Ninaplant · 22/06/2023 10:09

SaxSick · 22/06/2023 09:45

So honestly who really cares about the unhinged, baseless speculation and frankly the lack of media literacy displayed by some on this thread.

Yet again laying into people who have a different opinion from you describing them as unhinged?

The fact that this is what you took from my post, and chose to comment on, speaks volumes, unfortunately.

Unhinged, baseless speculation: Quoting anonymous people on Reddit, The Daily Mail, Tom Bower, YouTube hate channels etc

Fact: What the actual people in Uvalde are saying.

End of discussion.

Howsimplywonderful · 22/06/2023 10:10

I remember we used to do competency based interviews and would drill down to people’s role in a project as everyone was usually ‘instrumental’ but sometimes when asked specific questions it turns out they had no real role.

It looks like Meghan’s role was
to ring Kaboom and ask them to contact the school.

archwell didn’t source land, equipment or people. Some people think they were instrumental, others may disagree. It’s a personal opinion.
It is all over their impact statements.

SaxSick · 22/06/2023 10:12

TBH it doesn't really matter whether M flew privately or not to Uvalde. We know H and M fly privately despite their policy on environmentalism. Was she wrong to do so? She must have known it would be reported. She must have known it would be divisive surely. It seems that several people didn't even know who she was and wondered who the person was handing out chips to blood donors.
https://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/tradition/a40119524/meghan-markle-uvalde-visit/

Meghan Markle Visits Uvalde in Aftermath of School Shooting

The Duchess of Sussex traveled to Texas in a "personal capacity as a mother" to offer her condolences and support to the Uvalde community.

https://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/tradition/a40119524/meghan-markle-uvalde-visit/

SaxSick · 22/06/2023 10:14

Ninaplant · 22/06/2023 10:09

The fact that this is what you took from my post, and chose to comment on, speaks volumes, unfortunately.

Unhinged, baseless speculation: Quoting anonymous people on Reddit, The Daily Mail, Tom Bower, YouTube hate channels etc

Fact: What the actual people in Uvalde are saying.

End of discussion.

No - you referred to some people on this thread as unhinged. Maybe you got your words wrong?

So honestly who really cares about the unhinged, baseless speculation and frankly the lack of media literacy displayed by some on this thread.

SoTedious · 22/06/2023 10:15

Fact: What the actual people in Uvalde are saying.

Have you spoken to them yourself? Or are you relying on reports in, you know, the media? 😱

Iwantcakeeveryday · 22/06/2023 10:22

SoTedious · 22/06/2023 10:15

Fact: What the actual people in Uvalde are saying.

Have you spoken to them yourself? Or are you relying on reports in, you know, the media? 😱

Theres a bit of a difference reading words in the press from actual people affected, and a reddit post. Surely you know that?

Ninaplant · 22/06/2023 10:32

SoTedious · 22/06/2023 10:15

Fact: What the actual people in Uvalde are saying.

Have you spoken to them yourself? Or are you relying on reports in, you know, the media? 😱

Taken from Uvalde’s local newspaper and video footage from Uvalde when interviewed by American news channels.

Are you implying that I’m anti media? That’s rather presumptuous of you.

SoTedious · 22/06/2023 10:45

Are you implying that I’m anti media? That’s rather presumptuous of you.

No, I just thought it was amusing that you referred to any media as fact.

MarcelProust · 22/06/2023 10:46

SaxSick · 22/06/2023 09:48

Do you have evidence to the contrary about this trip then?

Can you prove that they flew private?

I don't need to prove a negative.
It's a bit like saying ..........is a nonce, surely, I would have to prove that. You make the negative accusation you have to prove it.
I just put together instances where a lie was perpetuated on the very subject with the same subjects, multiple times.

SaxSick · 22/06/2023 10:46

It seems from media reports that several people interviewed had no idea who she was - they thought she was a local.

SaxSick · 22/06/2023 10:51

MarcelProust · 22/06/2023 10:46

Can you prove that they flew private?

I don't need to prove a negative.
It's a bit like saying ..........is a nonce, surely, I would have to prove that. You make the negative accusation you have to prove it.
I just put together instances where a lie was perpetuated on the very subject with the same subjects, multiple times.

Oh so it is a negative accusation for them to fly privately? As a supporter you must be disappointed in them when they do so then in the light of their environmental policies?

MarcelProust · 22/06/2023 10:56

Puzzledandpissedoff · 22/06/2023 10:03

... she actually took the focus from the tragedy, the victims, their families and community, and it became about her

Nothing new about that; Harry did exactly the same when he hijacked Invictus to yammer on about how the Queen told him things she couldn't tell anyone else/needed him to "make sure she had the right people around her", to say nothing of Meghan's sobfest in a South African township of all places

Fundamentally they just don't get that not every blasted thing has to be about them all the time. Yes, a lot of other RF visits are pure PR, but at least they manage not to make it so blatantly obvious or to indulge in crass behaviour quite so often

All those answers were from direct questions.
And yes, black South Africans in a township are poor, but they are not devoid of compassion, you know. In fact, I don't recall them being the ones who complained the most (if at all, come to think of it). They've been through apartheid, I think they are in a good position to know what it's like to suffer as a woc.

Not too sure what you mean by your last paragraph, considering that the royals make sure they are covered with every visit they do. Often, even waiving at 'the plebs' sometimes from a balcony ?

I don't think I need to remind anyone how Kate told a mummy podcast how tired she was etc. despite her army of staff.

MarcelProust · 22/06/2023 10:59

SaxSick · 22/06/2023 10:51

Oh so it is a negative accusation for them to fly privately? As a supporter you must be disappointed in them when they do so then in the light of their environmental policies?

It it is seen as a negative by people like you.

I see it as self preservation.

Elton John tried to explain how they carbon offset. Harry's Travelyst also tried to explain this. But you are not listening.

Well, never mind.

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