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Flocider · 18/06/2023 06:43

stillavid · 18/06/2023 06:34

I can see the Dior deal happening. Dior aren't afraid of divisive figures and MM is very beautiful and looked very slender in the photos yesterday.

Her clothes never fit right though. I agree she is beautiful and she has a stunning figure, but her clothes are always a hot mess- baggy, wrinkled- even her wedding dress looked awful.

Serenster · 18/06/2023 06:50

Meghan and or Harry might be up for a formal tie-in with Dior, who knows. It seems a little unlikely though. Dior’s main ambassadors (Jennifer Lawrence, Natalie Portman) are people who regularly make red carpet appearances at movie events - like Natalie Portman recently making a stunning appearance at Cannes in a dress remade from one of Christian Dior’s classic archive designs. Meghan and Harry don’t lead that kind of red carpet lives these days, so where is the value to Dior? And I think Meghan is too divisive to be the face of a product, like Charlie’s Theron is for J’Adore Dior.

stayathomer · 18/06/2023 06:52

Oh my god I’d hate to be h and m so much! She was an actress, she’s absolutely beautiful hence Dior is of course on her cards- why can’t they just say that instead of making it a tactical move!

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 18/06/2023 07:00

Hecate01 · 18/06/2023 06:07

@DreamTheMoors a bit like the Sussex's themselves when they accuse family members of racism but don't name them.

Yeah they didn't seem concerned about members of the RF being bullied from their lies. It's not bullying to discuss famous people.

MamoruHisaishi · 18/06/2023 07:09

lifekeepsgoing · 18/06/2023 04:17

I am talking all the other press coverage about them being grifters out today. Look I may not agree with them sharing all in the memoir, and no doubt they already regret it, but I also do not agree with this hounding of them by the media that is just ongoing. It is like a witch hunt. Wealth does not protect you from being affected by this stuff- who do they have, her mother, a few celeb friends, they are quite isolated socially and I just think enough is enough. It is as if some people get off on picking on her and I just find it really nasty frankly. Whatever mistakes they have made, I do not like seeing people being picked on so relentlessly like this it is really. I hope she gets millions from Dior and has her bullies seething with anger..

Sorry but the reality is, controversy sells, and a Spotify executive calling them
grifters after Spotify ended their contract due to lack of productivity is a pretty big deal. Spotify signing a deal with them for 20 million dollars made headline news everywhere, so it’s only natural that this would also generate media attention.

You also can't blame people for engaging in a bit of schadenfreude, as the Sussexes have been willing to engage in throwing people under the bus and they're now getting the same treatment.

You're deeply hurt about this, I wonder if you felt the same way when the Sussexes were publicly criticizing their staff for not meeting their work standards and making accusations against the royal family during a time when Prince Phillip was dying and when the Queen was dying herself?

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Serenster · 18/06/2023 07:09

People who like the Sussexes are very keen to voice extremely strong negative opinions about other people themselves though (like Jason Knauf on this very thread) too.

Whenharrymetsmelly · 18/06/2023 07:12

@MamoruHisaishi it's starting to look a bit like obsession!!

MamoruHisaishi · 18/06/2023 07:15

Roussette · 18/06/2023 06:41

@DreamTheMoors @My2pence2day @lifekeepsgoing

So agree with your posts. I am astounded by some of the stuff that has been posted in the last day or so. I have never seen it before like this on MN and I've been here a long time.

So a Spotify guy was rude about them and their podcasts, he was unprofessional, H&M did nothing, haven't shown their faces, haven't commented on it... for that they are dragged through the mud, insulted, mocked, and to be honest it's been a case of people dancing on their graves.

It is bullying, plain and simple. And it appears to be quite acceptable to do that.

I hope Meghan makes a success of anything she does, with Harry alongside her. And good luck Harry with the court case, you are brave sticking your neck above the parapet, knowing what abuse you would get for doing so.

Oh I don't know, is it bullying to see two people finally experiencing the same thing that they've been doing to others? Especially to their own staff who accused them of bullying and who couldn't speak out due to NDA's? Do I hear the same level of concern for Jason Knauf, who has been attacked by the Sussex fans, for committing the crime of telling the truth and exposing Meghan’s lies and her bullying behaviour?

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MamoruHisaishi · 18/06/2023 07:19

MamoruHisaishi · 18/06/2023 07:15

Oh I don't know, is it bullying to see two people finally experiencing the same thing that they've been doing to others? Especially to their own staff who accused them of bullying and who couldn't speak out due to NDA's? Do I hear the same level of concern for Jason Knauf, who has been attacked by the Sussex fans, for committing the crime of telling the truth and exposing Meghan’s lies and her bullying behaviour?

*To get a sense of satisfaction to see two people finally get to experience what they've been doing to others who couldn't fight back.

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Roussette · 18/06/2023 07:23

MamoruHisaishi · 18/06/2023 07:15

Oh I don't know, is it bullying to see two people finally experiencing the same thing that they've been doing to others? Especially to their own staff who accused them of bullying and who couldn't speak out due to NDA's? Do I hear the same level of concern for Jason Knauf, who has been attacked by the Sussex fans, for committing the crime of telling the truth and exposing Meghan’s lies and her bullying behaviour?

Yes it is bullying. Hating on H&M is a multi million pound industry.

And I have yet to see written proof that Meghan bullied anyone. As for Jason Knauf, I won't comment. I have my thoughts on him. Best left. Valentine Low has talked of wanting to 'bring Meghan down' (or it might have even been 'destroy') in an interview, his sensationalist book was to make money for him. I pay no heed to the likes of him.

Serenster · 18/06/2023 07:31

You are mistaking Valentine Low from Tom Bpwer I think there, Roussette.

topnoddy · 18/06/2023 07:35

And here's me hoping that they both disappear up each other's arseholes !

Vile excuses for human beings

Roussette · 18/06/2023 07:35

Serenster · 18/06/2023 07:31

You are mistaking Valentine Low from Tom Bpwer I think there, Roussette.

Quite likely. Not much to choose between the two. Both making money off the back of H&M with books about how awful they are.

00100001 · 18/06/2023 07:38

DreamTheMoors · 18/06/2023 04:07

@MamoruHisaishi

The rumour of Meghan bullying staff was put out by Jason Knauf - to tank her. It was a lie. Everybody knows it was a lie. It’s been known as a lie for years. It isn’t arguable.

And yes - we all have a right to say what we want, except to yell “fire!!” in a theater. We need to prioritise whether we want to put out positive or negative energy into the world.

I’ll never understand the hatred for someone people don’t know, will never meet and who has absolutely no effect on their lives whatsoever.

It’s absurd.

Where was it proved/disproved about the lies?

TrashyPanda · 18/06/2023 07:42

making money off the back of H&M with books about how awful they are

Meanwhile H&M make money off the back of the RF (especially William and Charles) with books and interviews about how awful they are.

the irony is strong

cobicat · 18/06/2023 07:43

And yet this fluff piece was full of quotes and statements from her PR company, absolutely 100% this was written and printed at their request.

This, it's coming across as slightly desperate PR to counter the damage from the Spotify revelations.

I really can't see Meghan becoming a 'face' of Dior, she's far too divisive - although they may use her for a campaign. They used Harry in a very minor way (one SM post I think) wearing a Dior suit at the coronation.

Whatever her management team has in mind, I suspect monetising her profile is going to be a stretch, especially given her age and widespread unpopularity.

MamoruHisaishi · 18/06/2023 07:44

Roussette · 18/06/2023 07:23

Yes it is bullying. Hating on H&M is a multi million pound industry.

And I have yet to see written proof that Meghan bullied anyone. As for Jason Knauf, I won't comment. I have my thoughts on him. Best left. Valentine Low has talked of wanting to 'bring Meghan down' (or it might have even been 'destroy') in an interview, his sensationalist book was to make money for him. I pay no heed to the likes of him.

Criticizing isn't bullying. Otherwise, you would be calling out the Sussex supporters for criticizing the Wales, and I don't see you doing that.

Written proof? Jason knauf wrote an email highlighting his concern about Meghan’s behaviour towards her staff, before this was known the public leak, and you're asking for written proof? Do you need a signed affidavit in order to believe these bullying allegations? You can call Valentine’s book sensationalist, but he named names when it came to the bullying claims and it hasn't been retracted nor has he been sued for false allegations. Which, if it was untrue, the Sussxes would have done so as theyve been involved in numerous litigations against the press. In fact, Harry in his own book
all but admitted to it when he wrote of staff crying at their desks and they couldn't accept ‘constructive criticism’.

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00100001 · 18/06/2023 07:44

Roussette · 18/06/2023 07:35

Quite likely. Not much to choose between the two. Both making money off the back of H&M with books about how awful they are.

🤣

Much like H&M making money off the back of RF with books about how awful they are...

GlorianaCervixia · 18/06/2023 07:45

Valentine Low's book is about the people who work for the royal family. Harry and Meghan are just a small part of his book. He has never said he wants to destroy Meghan, that's completely untrue.

The irony of complaining that Harry and Meghan are being bullied while making up outright lies about someone else is astounding.

Flocider · 18/06/2023 07:47

Roussette · 18/06/2023 07:35

Quite likely. Not much to choose between the two. Both making money off the back of H&M with books about how awful they are.

Valentine Lows isn't like that at all, its clear you haven't read it or you'd know that. Harry and Meghan have also attempted to build a (failing) career from monetising bad mouthing others- lots of which has been proven to be lies so it'd be hypocritical for them to moan really.

My2pence2day · 18/06/2023 07:47

MamoruHisaishi · 18/06/2023 07:15

Oh I don't know, is it bullying to see two people finally experiencing the same thing that they've been doing to others? Especially to their own staff who accused them of bullying and who couldn't speak out due to NDA's? Do I hear the same level of concern for Jason Knauf, who has been attacked by the Sussex fans, for committing the crime of telling the truth and exposing Meghan’s lies and her bullying behaviour?

I think the difference is people on MN don't know H&M at all, that's where it starts to get quite disturbing. A bit like how people used to enjoy watching public executions. All the things you talk about (which you don't even know if they are true as it's all tabloid BS) are actual interactions with people who know each other. See the difference?

Balletrue · 18/06/2023 07:48

Serenster · 18/06/2023 06:50

Meghan and or Harry might be up for a formal tie-in with Dior, who knows. It seems a little unlikely though. Dior’s main ambassadors (Jennifer Lawrence, Natalie Portman) are people who regularly make red carpet appearances at movie events - like Natalie Portman recently making a stunning appearance at Cannes in a dress remade from one of Christian Dior’s classic archive designs. Meghan and Harry don’t lead that kind of red carpet lives these days, so where is the value to Dior? And I think Meghan is too divisive to be the face of a product, like Charlie’s Theron is for J’Adore Dior.

I agree with this, their ambassadors are such as they wear their outfits at notable and high profile events- none of which Meghan is invited to, the only way she will get any sort of a deal will be because of an exemplary PR team with connections.

TrashyPanda · 18/06/2023 07:52

clyspa · 18/06/2023 03:18

I do wonder if the story has been leaked by her side? A more cynical side of me wonders if it's to test the reaction or push Dior into a decision.

I can see it though and with her Tig stuff imagine a decent direction to be moving towards a better direction.

That’s a very interesting angle.

Any Dior deal will hinge upon a few things, including

is Meghan sufficiently high profile to benefit the brand?
she isn’t a working royal, she isn’t a Hollywood A-lister.

will she bring positive publicity to Dior?
I suspect this might be the vital question.

stillavid · 18/06/2023 07:55

Valentine Low is in no way comparable to Tom Bower.

I am sure the coverage that H&M receive is very distressing for them. But this is why I don't understand why they did things like Netflix documentaries and memoirs - well I know they needed the £££.

However, they could have settled down somewhere cheaper and been very financially comfortable and pursued things like brand deals which would just not garner the same criticism.

TrashyPanda · 18/06/2023 07:56

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I’m wondering if you realise that many H&M stories are deliberately planted by their PR, working on the assumption that any publicity is good publicity?

look at the silly statement about a “near catastrophe”. Nobody in NY had noticed this supposed car chase, there was nothing in the press or SM about it - it was a clear plant that badly backfired. It was a deliberate attempt to manipulate the public and it went very, very wrong.

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