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StrawberryWasp · 21/06/2023 17:23

The royals have a unique and weird job.
They have to represent the monarch or the country in various tasks. For this they get nice houses travel security etc. And lots of press interest.
It's a mutually beneficial agreement if it wasn't one side would opt out by now.

H did opt out. But weirdly wanted to do the same sort of thing but funded by....??

No they didn't. They always intended to do both. Lots of famous people manage their jobs and a lot of charitable work alongside that. Only the royals expect to not have proper jobs and get paid to do 'charity'.

Yes as sideline once they have wealth, not promoting themselves as ambassadors of empathy or whatever twaddle they ascribed to themselves before they've even done anything.

It's like me putting on my social media that I'm going to be devoting myself to giving to others to relieve suffering, and my mates going 'oh what are you doing?' and I say 'oh nothing yet but I'm going to because I'm just that kind of person.' 'if you send me some money I'll take photos of myself giving it to poor people and send it to you so you can see the great person I am.'

It's just embarrassing.

They are in no position to be philanthropists. They've got nothing to give.

I think they actually thought their wisdom about kindness and empathy would their gift to the world. They'd travel about preaching it opening eyes.
That would be their service.

Numpties.

Bluebells1970 · 21/06/2023 18:03

A nurse posted this story at the time on Reddit...it's still there.

"I was busy staffing a shift at Uvalde Memorial Hospital on May 27th when I heard the narcissist of Montecito👸came in with her bodyguard, photographer, and the Netflix crew.
Word traveled quickly that this royal visitor only wanted to help the hurt children - by taking photos with them. Oh, and a few videos. It wouldn't take long.
What Meangan didn't plan on when she decided to Markle the children and families of Uvalde is that Texans - unlke her spineless spouse - have no problems telling her no.🤨
The Texas Highway Patrol providing security at the hospital escorted Meangan and her troupe out, with the suggestion that if she wanted to help? Go donate blood with directions to the senior center."

skullbabe · 21/06/2023 18:35

Bluebells1970 · 21/06/2023 18:03

A nurse posted this story at the time on Reddit...it's still there.

"I was busy staffing a shift at Uvalde Memorial Hospital on May 27th when I heard the narcissist of Montecito👸came in with her bodyguard, photographer, and the Netflix crew.
Word traveled quickly that this royal visitor only wanted to help the hurt children - by taking photos with them. Oh, and a few videos. It wouldn't take long.
What Meangan didn't plan on when she decided to Markle the children and families of Uvalde is that Texans - unlke her spineless spouse - have no problems telling her no.🤨
The Texas Highway Patrol providing security at the hospital escorted Meangan and her troupe out, with the suggestion that if she wanted to help? Go donate blood with directions to the senior center."

And yet - the people at the blood drive centre have said there was no photographers and no Netflix crew. I wonder if I would believe an anonymous nurse who called Meghan the narcissist of Montecito and her spuse spinelss or Gloria Contreras who was actually at the Herby Ham Activity Center and put her full name out there. Its also interesting that Uvalde Memorial Hospital has not made a statement about this visit.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/kadiagoba/meghan-markle-uvalde-texas-school-shooting-memorial-blood

Meghan Markle Visited Uvalde To Donate Food To Volunteers And Pay Tribute To The School Shooting Victims

"I had no idea who she was. She just was carrying on a conversation like her and I knew each other for years," a community center volunteer who spoke to the Duchess of Sussex told BuzzFeed News.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/kadiagoba/meghan-markle-uvalde-texas-school-shooting-memorial-blood

LadyMuckingabout · 21/06/2023 18:51

But can you address why she was even there? And flew in by private jet? Would you fly to a site of a tragedy, eg Dunblane? She is not the President, nor from Uvalde, like Matthew McConnaughy (sp?) .

Bluebells1970 · 21/06/2023 18:57

How can anyone defend such poor actions? She was also photographed with a large entourage including a camera man and photographer.

That was no private visit, it was PR.

Iwantcakeeveryday · 21/06/2023 19:02

*It's like me putting on my social media that I'm going to be devoting myself to giving to others to relieve suffering, and my mates going 'oh what are you doing?' and I say 'oh nothing yet but I'm going to because I'm just that kind of person.' 'if you send me some money I'll take photos of myself giving it to poor people and send it to you so you can see the great person I am.'

It's just embarrassing.

They are in no position to be philanthropists. They've got nothing to give.*

In do not believe I have ever seen them asking anyone for money to do philanthropic work as a job. He had 30 million from his mother, Meghan was also a millionaire and they very quickly had offers worth many millions. I do not understand what is embarrassing about a millionaire wanting to do philanthropic work or funding charity work others do. They have plenty to give and what's embarrassing is that you think they don't and that you need to be a many time multi millionaire to do this. I actually don't really understand what your point is and it doesn't;t seem based on facts.

StrawberryWasp · 21/06/2023 19:11

Iwantcakeeveryday · 21/06/2023 19:02

*It's like me putting on my social media that I'm going to be devoting myself to giving to others to relieve suffering, and my mates going 'oh what are you doing?' and I say 'oh nothing yet but I'm going to because I'm just that kind of person.' 'if you send me some money I'll take photos of myself giving it to poor people and send it to you so you can see the great person I am.'

It's just embarrassing.

They are in no position to be philanthropists. They've got nothing to give.*

In do not believe I have ever seen them asking anyone for money to do philanthropic work as a job. He had 30 million from his mother, Meghan was also a millionaire and they very quickly had offers worth many millions. I do not understand what is embarrassing about a millionaire wanting to do philanthropic work or funding charity work others do. They have plenty to give and what's embarrassing is that you think they don't and that you need to be a many time multi millionaire to do this. I actually don't really understand what your point is and it doesn't;t seem based on facts.

They're not giving they're own money are they.

They're wanting donations to archewell. They had a couple of large donations only I believe.

So they are wanting people to give them money so they can pass it on and look good.

They can't fund lots of philanthropy themselves they're not wealthy enough. They can't fund their own security.

And they're using charity to make themselves look good, they could give privately if they wanted but that would only help the charity and not them as well.

Grifters indeed.

Iwantcakeeveryday · 21/06/2023 19:18

*They're wanting donations to archewell. They had a couple of large donations only I believe.

So they are wanting people to give them money so they can pass it on and look good.*

No. They do not ask for public money, you can;t donate on their page, you are directed to other charities they support. The two donations are large sums, most agree its likely from Harry. They clearly do have money. I am not sure why you would state otherwise. What you're saying does;t make sense to me.

Gracewithoutend · 21/06/2023 19:27

Bluebells1970 · 21/06/2023 18:03

A nurse posted this story at the time on Reddit...it's still there.

"I was busy staffing a shift at Uvalde Memorial Hospital on May 27th when I heard the narcissist of Montecito👸came in with her bodyguard, photographer, and the Netflix crew.
Word traveled quickly that this royal visitor only wanted to help the hurt children - by taking photos with them. Oh, and a few videos. It wouldn't take long.
What Meangan didn't plan on when she decided to Markle the children and families of Uvalde is that Texans - unlke her spineless spouse - have no problems telling her no.🤨
The Texas Highway Patrol providing security at the hospital escorted Meangan and her troupe out, with the suggestion that if she wanted to help? Go donate blood with directions to the senior center."

I don't believe it.
I think Meghan was ill-advised to fly 1,400 miles to witness the aftermath of a disaster. Aren't people who do that described as rubber neckers. (I know it comes from driving!) I don't think she meant harm, it was just inappropriate.

But I don't believe that she went to a hospital and asked for photos, never mind with children only. Nope. I just don't.

Gracewithoutend · 21/06/2023 19:31

Iwantcakeeveryday · 21/06/2023 19:18

*They're wanting donations to archewell. They had a couple of large donations only I believe.

So they are wanting people to give them money so they can pass it on and look good.*

No. They do not ask for public money, you can;t donate on their page, you are directed to other charities they support. The two donations are large sums, most agree its likely from Harry. They clearly do have money. I am not sure why you would state otherwise. What you're saying does;t make sense to me.

You might not be able to donate online, but they are a public charity so they are registered to accept public donations.

StrawberryWasp · 21/06/2023 20:31

Iwantcakeeveryday · 21/06/2023 19:18

*They're wanting donations to archewell. They had a couple of large donations only I believe.

So they are wanting people to give them money so they can pass it on and look good.*

No. They do not ask for public money, you can;t donate on their page, you are directed to other charities they support. The two donations are large sums, most agree its likely from Harry. They clearly do have money. I am not sure why you would state otherwise. What you're saying does;t make sense to me.

Do you think the money donated into archewell is theirs?

They are asking for money, from their mates. Like in my analogy.

SoTedious · 21/06/2023 20:31

I think the Uvalde thing looks like self-promotion because it's hard to come up with another plausible reason she was there. She has no connection to the city, she was not invited, she doesn't represent anyone or anything, whether or not she arranged the photographer(s) and film crew, they were there, so she actually took the focus from the tragedy, the victims, their families and community, and it became about her. She donated some food but spent far more on chartering a private jet to get her there. It would have been better for everyone but her if she had stayed at home and made a larger donation anonymously instead of becoming the centre of attention.

(Although as it turned out it looked so weird that it didn't do her much good in the end, and if it was intended for the Netflix series it was quickly dumped.)

skullbabe · 21/06/2023 20:32

Bluebells1970 · 21/06/2023 18:57

How can anyone defend such poor actions? She was also photographed with a large entourage including a camera man and photographer.

That was no private visit, it was PR.

There was no camera man and no photographer. She had security - looking at the video she had 2 people with her. (Also again people who were there did not report any of what you are saying - where did you get this from?)

SoTedious · 21/06/2023 20:46

Anyone who doesn't think the Uvalde trip was about self-promotion, why was Meghan there? It just seems so odd to travel 1000+ miles to a community you have no connection to, when you know you will be photographed and it will become a story and detract from the tragedy itself. Whose benefit was it for? Does she charter a private jet to all mass shootings? 🤯

maranella · 21/06/2023 20:48

It's 1200 miles from Montecito to Uvalde.

It's 5 miles from Kensington Palace to Clapham Common.

They really aren't comparable, other than they were both private visits.

SaxSick · 21/06/2023 20:52

Iwantcakeeveryday · 21/06/2023 19:18

*They're wanting donations to archewell. They had a couple of large donations only I believe.

So they are wanting people to give them money so they can pass it on and look good.*

No. They do not ask for public money, you can;t donate on their page, you are directed to other charities they support. The two donations are large sums, most agree its likely from Harry. They clearly do have money. I am not sure why you would state otherwise. What you're saying does;t make sense to me.

They are not billionaires though who donate billions. A playground doesn't really compare although as Tesco "says every little helps" . If they don't have money for security then how are they going to give it away as philanthropists?

themessygarden · 21/06/2023 20:53

I don't believe that Reddit story for a minute.

The whole world was shocked and horrified by what happened to those little kids at Uvalde. The only famous person to show up in those early days was Meghan, like everyone the world over, its clear she was horrified and wanted to do something, but it really did smack of self promotion, she didn't go incognito, she would have known the worlds media was there and she absolutely had to know that her presence would not go unnoticed.

It certainly came across as a calculated PR move with, no doubt, good intentions, it was absolutely the wrong timing .

SaxSick · 21/06/2023 21:10

The whole Archewell site is as woolly as the Oprah interview. It will be interesting to see the next filings relating to this. It seems odd that Meghan and Harry only seem to put in one hour a week into Archewell. That's not going to inspire many contributions is it?

Gracewithoutend · 21/06/2023 21:17

To be fair, I think the 1hr is just an admin thing that all charities use. As far as I remember they aren't drawing a wage. Those that are being paid to do an actual job have to be put down their correct hours. I guess so people can openly calculate their rate.

tigger2022 · 21/06/2023 21:39

In Meghan’s defence I think she was genuinely trying to do the royal thing, like she’d seen done for Grenfell, the Manchester Arena bombing, etc… the problem is, she wasn’t royal, America doesn’t have royals, she hadn’t been dispatched to represent the head of state, she was just a random celebrity

Milcar · 21/06/2023 21:58

I think the reason people with official roles go to places where something awful has happened is because they (officially) represent the community to give sympathy.

If you don't have an official role then it is rubber necking unless you have a personal connection.

SoTedious · 21/06/2023 22:02

I don't get what good she thought it would do. Or why she would suddenly be trying to do the royal thing - uninvited and unannounced - more than two years after she stopped being a working royal though.

It's like Gemma Collins or some other random celeb turning up and getting photographed looking sad at the Nottingham University vigil the other day. Just bizarre. And GC would quite rightly get criticised for that, especially if she happened to be filming a reality series around the same time.

Milcar · 21/06/2023 22:28

Rubber necking.

I thought good for them when they left the RF, I would have wanted a private life for my family. But since then it seems they have tried to be the RF but without any responsibility or commitment and have generated the media attention on to themselves

GlorianaCervixia · 21/06/2023 23:21

I don’t believe the Reddit story either. It’s too coincidental that this person knows all the disparaging terms used for Meghan online and claims to be a nurse in a place where Meghan supposedly visited. It sounds made up to me.

MarcelProust · 22/06/2023 06:41

Don't believe 'rubber necking'.

When Sean Penn went to Haiti after Hurricane Katrina, no one bet an eyelid, it was a hard hitting thing to happen. I think most people were encouraged to donate with the publicity he brought to see how serious the whole thing was.

Celebrities go overseas all the time to help with some kind of relief or the other.
But apparently, exclusively, Meghan is not allowed.

Ulvade was a a big deal. Mostly because the victims were also children - Meghan surely would have been hard hit to think about it, since she has young children herself. Lots of people came in to lay flowers, they were not there to represent royalty or government. So quite ridiculous to say she is no longer with the royals, and shouldn't do things.

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