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Harry and his truth

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TrashyPanda · 10/06/2023 11:36

Let’s try again folks!

the aftermath of Harry’s court appearance and what happens next

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TrashyPanda · 10/06/2023 12:34

DorisElward · 10/06/2023 12:12

I like Harry more and more with every vicious thing I read about him. I think the absolute best course of action in his position is to make millions publishing the details of your frostbitten penis and then spend it sueing the papers that made your life a misery. Genius. Go Harry.

Logic has never been one of his skills

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GloriousD · 10/06/2023 12:36

Has PH made any public statement about how he felt the trial went for him personally - or is he not allowed to do that at the moment?

Puzzledandpissedoff · 10/06/2023 12:39

GloriousD · 10/06/2023 12:31

How will this trial conclude? Is it a joint thing that the judge will call Guilty or Not Guilty after all 100 claimants give their evidence - or is it a case by case for each individual?

One of the legal posters was kind enough to answer this very comprehensively on a previous thread - I'll try to find it for you again - but basically, while a background of hacking can affect the balance of probabilities, nevertheless each claimant has to prove their own case

Catspyjamasfit · 10/06/2023 12:39

One of the air stewards or rhar ever they are called has published a photo of himself with Harry on the plane. Harry left him a present .. of his book Spare! I wonder if he takes copies to give out to people as rewards wherever he goes. 😕

TrashyPanda · 10/06/2023 12:40

xXiXx · 10/06/2023 12:13

I feel sorry for him. Everything has gone so wrong. His own fault in some ways, but not being heard is so invalidating. He probably feels visible and invisible. Meghan doesn't see him. I know he's invaded others' privacy, but he needs to be heard. King Charles should fly out to see him. Make it a priority.

he has done hours of tv about himself
written a whole book
had a lengthy court statement and a day and a half in court

how much more being heard does he need!
an item on every news bulletin?

people don’t buy “his truth* when even can’t remember what happened or what he said before

maybe Harry should have made a point of seeing his family and apologising to them during his 2 flying visits? Maybe make that a priority!

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TrashyPanda · 10/06/2023 12:40

Puzzledandpissedoff · 10/06/2023 12:13

Okay, so I asked on the last one and came home to find it deleted ...

Does anyone happen to know if there's actual evidence of the tracker allegedly placed on Chelsey's car?
Only I'm not aware Harry said much about this when giving evidence in court, and I'd have thought it would be something he'd want to make quite a thing of - after all surely it's something his security people would have been told about meaning there'd be backup for the account?

you would think so

strange…

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jeffgoldblum · 10/06/2023 12:43

Nothing concrete mentioned about tracker that I can find !

Puzzledandpissedoff · 10/06/2023 12:45

Here you go, @GloriousD - I though Dolma put it very clearly, and the link was useful too:

The judgment will look something like this: https://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Ch/2015/1482.html

General stuff that applies to all of them, then each claimant's case considered separately. The judge will take into account the generic case for each one (ie, that there is a lot of evidence of a general landscape of phone hacking), and each of the claimants will form part of that generic case for the others, but there won't be a direct link between one claimant in this case being successful and another one also being successful on account of them being tried together.
Gulati & Ors v MGN Ltd (un-redacted) [2015] EWHC 1482 (Ch) (21 May 2015)

https://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Ch/2015/1482.html

TrashyPanda · 10/06/2023 12:47

Novella4 · 10/06/2023 12:17

If anyone has been out of the country recently you’ll agree the international view is v different .
Harry told the truth about the media and the ‘royals’ .
Harry is taking the media on and addressing how much damage it has done to the country
Willy took the money ( as if he needs it- sheer greed) and kept his mouth shut .
Willy needs a favourable press - he’s nothing without them .

The international view I saw last month was pretty much same as here:

boredom with spoilt Harry and his constantly seeking attention for not doing very much at all.

harry is desperate to stay in the spotlight - just look at his “near catastrophe”

he states he is on this case to stop people hating Meghan. Not for altruistic reasons. What could be achieved in practical terms that would surpass Leveson 2!

William keeps a dignified silence and is all the more valued for that.

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RosesAndHellebores · 10/06/2023 12:47

It's just very sad. I always though his mama would have benefitted from two to three months on the 22nd floor of a tower block, having to either get to a job for 8.30am until 6pm (nursery nurse), dripping her own kids with a relly on the way and picking them up on the way home. Getting home, doing dinner and the laundry, wondering how to make ends meet.

A similar experience may have done Harry no harm either.

A touch of the real world may well have initiated a little compromise and gratitude for gilded lives.

Gilmorehill · 10/06/2023 12:47

I was reading about Boris Johnson’s resignation and his claim of a witch hunt against him in parliament and the tone made me think of H. It feels like men of that elite privileged world really feel they can do no wrong.

TrashyPanda · 10/06/2023 12:49

Have details of the out of court settlement been released?

wouldn’t that be very unusual?

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abbey44 · 10/06/2023 12:49

Novella4 · 10/06/2023 12:17

If anyone has been out of the country recently you’ll agree the international view is v different .
Harry told the truth about the media and the ‘royals’ .
Harry is taking the media on and addressing how much damage it has done to the country
Willy took the money ( as if he needs it- sheer greed) and kept his mouth shut .
Willy needs a favourable press - he’s nothing without them .

William settled out of court and donated his damages to charity. Invictus Games, I believe.

Iwantcakeeveryday · 10/06/2023 12:50

RosesAndHellebores · 10/06/2023 12:47

It's just very sad. I always though his mama would have benefitted from two to three months on the 22nd floor of a tower block, having to either get to a job for 8.30am until 6pm (nursery nurse), dripping her own kids with a relly on the way and picking them up on the way home. Getting home, doing dinner and the laundry, wondering how to make ends meet.

A similar experience may have done Harry no harm either.

A touch of the real world may well have initiated a little compromise and gratitude for gilded lives.

and di you think that about the queen and Charles too? Charles has been moaning about his life for decades now

TrashyPanda · 10/06/2023 12:51

GloriousD · 10/06/2023 12:31

How will this trial conclude? Is it a joint thing that the judge will call Guilty or Not Guilty after all 100 claimants give their evidence - or is it a case by case for each individual?

think it will be months before we get a verdict

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Iwantcakeeveryday · 10/06/2023 12:51

abbey44 · 10/06/2023 12:49

William settled out of court and donated his damages to charity. Invictus Games, I believe.

I have never seen a anyone say that, do you have a link showing the settlement was paid to Invictus?

TrashyPanda · 10/06/2023 12:52

Catspyjamasfit · 10/06/2023 12:39

One of the air stewards or rhar ever they are called has published a photo of himself with Harry on the plane. Harry left him a present .. of his book Spare! I wonder if he takes copies to give out to people as rewards wherever he goes. 😕

That is hilarious!

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jeffgoldblum · 10/06/2023 12:53

Yep! , how many copies does he have about his person? 🤣

Gracewithoutend · 10/06/2023 12:53

Harry left him a present .. of his book Spare!

That is so embarrassing. 😂😂😂 I wonder if he sends signed photos for Christmas presents. Hehe.

jeffgoldblum · 10/06/2023 12:54

🤣

Mumsnut · 10/06/2023 12:54

The Spare always keeps a spare Spare about his person ...

jeffgoldblum · 10/06/2023 12:54

Droll @Mumsnut , very droll! 🤣

TrashyPanda · 10/06/2023 12:55

@RosesAndHellebores - Diana was very much into “wooo”

Harry, Charles and William have all done military service which is pretty down to earth,

and William and Kate lived a pretty normal life in Anglesey

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Catspyjamasfit · 10/06/2023 12:55

😂

Catspyjamasfit · 10/06/2023 12:55

To @Mumsnut