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Peverellshire · 08/06/2023 21:17

Where is Meghan? She has the skillset to support/advise. Is she?

TrashyPanda · 08/06/2023 21:18

Dad definitely couldn’t draw - and neither can I!

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WigsNGowns · 08/06/2023 21:19

@TrashyPanda
it was Vivien Leigh and Laurence Olivier, possibly the most glamorous couple of the time. Not a single person went up to them, or asked for an autograph. They took a quick look - and then left them alone to enjoy their evening. My folks never forgot their “almost” encounter with them!

What a lovely story. & as you say, they were ultra-rock stars at that time.

polkadotdalmation · 08/06/2023 21:20

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 08/06/2023 21:14

Well, don't sit on the fence there, @EpicChaos . Just say what you think about PH. 😆

😂 Yes, say it like it is!

Peverellshire · 08/06/2023 21:20

TrashyPanda · 08/06/2023 20:27

Re celebrities and intrusion - after WWII ended, mum and dad went out for an evening dinner at the NB which is in the very centre of Edinburgh. Dad was in full army uniform and mum was in an evening dress (borrowed!) there was still rationing on and I think it was their first proper date.

during the evening, there was a little bit of a buzz, people turned their heads to the door and there were whispered conversations.

it was Vivien Leigh and Laurence Olivier, possibly the most glamorous couple of the time. Not a single person went up to them, or asked for an autograph. They took a quick look - and then left them alone to enjoy their evening. My folks never forgot their “almost” encounter with them!

no way would that happen today - it would be all over social media in seconds.

Wow, WHAT an anecdote! What were their impressions?

TrashyPanda · 08/06/2023 21:22

@EpicChaos The comments he made about that lady were really nasty.

revealed his attitude to people with disabilities.

I wonder how Invictus sportspeople feel about that?

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polkadotdalmation · 08/06/2023 21:22

I loved watching gone with the wind about 20 years ago as an older teenager but oh my, it is not at all Woke! Vivienne Leigh was gorgeous. Lots of scandal with olivier and leigh though 😱

TrashyPanda · 08/06/2023 21:22

Mum and dad thought they looked so amazing and beautiful.

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mixedrecycling · 08/06/2023 21:25

EpicChaos · 08/06/2023 21:15

@mixedrecycling @TrashyPanda
If you don't mind my asking please, did your dads ever master the art of painting/drawing, at all?
I'm another that was forced to use my right hand instead of my left and never could draw, interesting to know if others managed and if so,how.

No, never. Me neither, although I right handed (Dad, Mum, and both siblings left handed!)

mixedrecycling · 08/06/2023 21:26

polkadotdalmation · 08/06/2023 21:22

I loved watching gone with the wind about 20 years ago as an older teenager but oh my, it is not at all Woke! Vivienne Leigh was gorgeous. Lots of scandal with olivier and leigh though 😱

It's 'problematic' to say the least!

mixedrecycling · 08/06/2023 21:28

Apparently Vivien Leigh was more acceptable to Southerners as British than a Northerner (Yankee!) would have been!

But to call it a whitewash doesn't even begin to address the historic falsehoods!

SunnyEgg · 08/06/2023 21:31

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 08/06/2023 21:14

Well, don't sit on the fence there, @EpicChaos . Just say what you think about PH. 😆

Made me laugh too

mixedrecycling · 08/06/2023 21:37

It does fit with what most people I know think about him! Just to be clear, that includes POC...

DogOutInTheDark · 08/06/2023 22:00

EpicChaos · 08/06/2023 21:11

Does it not occur to the hypocritical, waste of space, to ask himself why people don't like him anymore?
Does it not cross his tiny, empty head, that it was the same media he is suing now, that sold the public a pup, ( him being the pup ) spreading the message of what a great guy he is - full of fun, happy as Larry, a bit of a Jack the lad, etc.
Perhaps it's us that should be suing, for false advertising, or something, anything, i feel we definitely ought to be compensated for being sold such an outrageous lie!
He's a nasty, cruel ( as per his words to and about that poor lady at his school - did it even cross his mind that she/her family might still be alive, did he check, did he not think it would be extremely upsetting for her/her family to have that brought to the publics knowledge! )
If i never saw his face, or heard his goddamn awful voice again, i'd be golden - and that ridiculous look he pulls, well, you'd just never get tired, would you?! That look of insolence! You can well imagine how he truly speaks to people he thinks are below him, when he hasn't got a camera near him.
Thank heavens William came first!
I hope he loses and has to pay a fortune in costs, tbh.

Anyhoo, thanks @WigsNGowns for that info on Gordon Kaye, very sad that he was taken such advantage of when he was in such a very vulnerable state.

I agree!

The hypocrisy of the man also astounds me. He has invaded the privacy of his father and brother, discussing intimate and personal moments of their lives that noone would ever have known about if Harry hadn't written all about them in his book. (If my son was to share something with the whole world, that I told him in private, after the death of my parent, when feeling very vulnerable and assuming it was private, I'd be devastated). He shared details of his first sexual experience which the woman concerned had never revealed til Harry raised it. He's been so cruel about that poor matron and mocked her to the world. But he just cannot see the blatant hypocrisy.

The other thing he does which bugs me a lot, is his lack of responsibility for ANY of his actions. His drug taking, sex in a field, choice to wear Nazi uniform, revealing his Taliban kills, endles publicity over the last 5years, have ALL been his own doing. HIS own actions. Yet it's everyone else's fault but his.

The boy drives me crazy!!!!! He's a big man child with a todger I know more about than I'd like to!

PicturesOfDogs · 08/06/2023 22:12

WigsNGowns · 08/06/2023 17:52

@SunnyEgg @PicturesOfDogs

Info here re: Nikki Sanderson admissions
https://pressgazette.co.uk/media_law/prince-harry-mirror-hacking-trial-week-one/

The publisher says Sanderson’s claim has been brought too late, but “unreservedly apologises” over four payments made to private investigators which it admits are evidence of instructions to unlawfully obtain her private information. It also claims that evidence does not suggest Sanderson’s phone was successfully hacked.

In any case where a party has made an admission of liability, it is usual for there also to be what is called a Part 36 offer to settle the case. That is a 'secret' (in the sense of not known to the Judge or publically) offer to settle at a particular level. The fact and detail of the offer only becomes known to the Judge after judgment and when the parties argue about costs.

If the Claimant doesn't accept the offer, then goes to court and the judge awards less than the offer, the Claimant is treated as having 'lost' (because they incurred time and costs of a trial to no end - they could have accepted the offer and would have been better off). The result of a loss is the Claimant then has to pay the Defendants costs.

Obviously, I don't know whether offers have been made in any of these cases, nor whether what is admitted is the same as an admission of liability - for example it is possible to admit something and apologise for it where whatever is admitted isn't itself a cause of action or there are other defences - for example limitation has expired.

However, in any case where there is admission that amounts to an admission of liability I would be amazed if there wasn't a Part 36 offer to settle the case - because it is a very standard way for defendants to try to protect themselves. If they aren't accepted, it is always because the Claimant thinks they will win and get more at trial.

Thank you, that’s really interesting

Peverellshire · 08/06/2023 22:18

mixedrecycling · 08/06/2023 21:28

Apparently Vivien Leigh was more acceptable to Southerners as British than a Northerner (Yankee!) would have been!

But to call it a whitewash doesn't even begin to address the historic falsehoods!

Vivienne Leigh was half Indian or of Indian descent, too, I think, would need to google to check.

mixedrecycling · 08/06/2023 22:20

She was born in India, I think, but of British parents

MamoruHisaishi · 08/06/2023 22:53

DogOutInTheDark · 08/06/2023 22:00

I agree!

The hypocrisy of the man also astounds me. He has invaded the privacy of his father and brother, discussing intimate and personal moments of their lives that noone would ever have known about if Harry hadn't written all about them in his book. (If my son was to share something with the whole world, that I told him in private, after the death of my parent, when feeling very vulnerable and assuming it was private, I'd be devastated). He shared details of his first sexual experience which the woman concerned had never revealed til Harry raised it. He's been so cruel about that poor matron and mocked her to the world. But he just cannot see the blatant hypocrisy.

The other thing he does which bugs me a lot, is his lack of responsibility for ANY of his actions. His drug taking, sex in a field, choice to wear Nazi uniform, revealing his Taliban kills, endles publicity over the last 5years, have ALL been his own doing. HIS own actions. Yet it's everyone else's fault but his.

The boy drives me crazy!!!!! He's a big man child with a todger I know more about than I'd like to!

Yes to all this.

Nofixedabodewell · 08/06/2023 23:06

mixedrecycling · 08/06/2023 22:20

She was born in India, I think, but of British parents

Her father was Scottish and her mother Irish Catholic. Such a beautiful woman. I’ve always been fascinated by her.

friendlycat · 09/06/2023 00:06

In some respects it’s difficult to understand why PH wants to pursue this, in other respects it’s understandable. The media (tabloids) have had to clean up their act. Though their headlines still continue to be inflammatory and selective of facts. But much of what is relevant to his case is history by a long chalk.

Diana had the double edge sword of using the media for her own benefit and then loathing them in equal measure. It seems her son shares the same views.

But it’s so difficult to understand why can PH not focus on a forward looking path with his young family and wife in a new country with all that could encompass, rather than continuing to dwell on the past.

So much of his complaint is based on hatred of the press that is understandable, but is the price worth it? He obviously thinks so but it certainly doesn’t really match with the privacy intrusions that he’s willfully inflicted on his own family.

He might well win this court battle. But will that be enough? When will he move forward and live his life happily with his newish family forging a balanced and happy existence for all. You have to certainly wonder whether his wife thought this would be her future especially at the moment.

Peverellshire · 09/06/2023 00:13

Nofixedabodewell · 08/06/2023 23:06

Her father was Scottish and her mother Irish Catholic. Such a beautiful woman. I’ve always been fascinated by her.

Me too, I think life was difficult for her.

clyspa · 09/06/2023 07:45

So what now? Does he have other court cases to return to the U.K. for or can we assume we might now enter a period of non- past looking non-royal strife stuff eg invictus

Can we hope?

Wheresthebeach · 09/06/2023 08:43

He take’s hypocrisy to a new level. Revealing intimate details about others at the same time as parading the damage done to him by the papers sharing his intimate information. That level of self delusion is hard to fathom. He doesn’t care who he hurts in pursuing ‘his truth’.

jeffgoldblum · 09/06/2023 08:44

Thanks @MayQueeen , I read your link with enthusiasm!
Jeff makes everything better 🤣

DogOutInTheDark · 09/06/2023 08:47

Wheresthebeach · 09/06/2023 08:43

He take’s hypocrisy to a new level. Revealing intimate details about others at the same time as parading the damage done to him by the papers sharing his intimate information. That level of self delusion is hard to fathom. He doesn’t care who he hurts in pursuing ‘his truth’.

Exactly this!

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