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jeffgoldblum · 06/06/2023 13:41

@MrsLeonFarrell , I honestly doubt it , he's just using this court case to grandstand about how victimised he is! , it's just another vehicle for his truth .

Icanbringmyselfflowers · 06/06/2023 13:42

I strongly suspect this isn’t about winning or loosing for harry, it’s about having his day in court. He wants to publicly say it all, he, once again, wants to tell “his truth” as publicly as possible. Every perceived wrong to be aired. Every accusation he can think of to be made public.

the issue is, he and his wife constantly feed the beast. They always pull shit that will hit the media. From their interviews, to falsely claiming there was a high speed car chase in New York recently to claiming they were married the day before they were.

and so it’s a never ending circle of false claims, him getting irate when it’s written about and disproved and then attacking as he was written about in the first place.

it doesn’t matter the outcome of this trial. He’s already lost.

Icanbringmyselfflowers · 06/06/2023 13:42

jeffgoldblum · 06/06/2023 13:41

@MrsLeonFarrell , I honestly doubt it , he's just using this court case to grandstand about how victimised he is! , it's just another vehicle for his truth .

Cross posted and snap. Totally agree.

jeffgoldblum · 06/06/2023 13:44

You said it better @Icanbringmyselfflowers ! 😉

Icanbringmyselfflowers · 06/06/2023 13:45

jeffgoldblum · 06/06/2023 13:44

You said it better @Icanbringmyselfflowers ! 😉

I think you were much more succinct ☺️

Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · 06/06/2023 13:45

I strongly suspect this isn’t about winning or loosing for harry, it’s about having his day in court. He wants to publicly say it all, he, once again, wants to tell “his truth” as publicly as possible. Every perceived wrong to be aired. Every accusation he can think of to be made public.

But it's a very expensive way to do it. Normally he gets paid for his opinions. Does he honestly believe he's going to win or has he got way more money than we think he has?

jeffgoldblum · 06/06/2023 13:46

@Icanbringmyselfflowers , I'm just a very , very lazy typist! 🤣

Howsimplywonderful · 06/06/2023 13:46

Harry just doesn’t get that moving on and living well is the best revenge. He’s two thinned skinned to move on so determined to have the last word - very like Trump

His evidence this morning is a pile of rubbish, he has shown no evidence of hacking.

jeffgoldblum · 06/06/2023 13:47

I think it's likely he does @Sweetpeasaremadeforbees , after all none of the royals are very opaque about how much money they really have! , I doubt Harry is any different.

Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · 06/06/2023 13:51

Is he only in court today? Hands up I get lost in all his court shenanigans and I'm not even sure whether this case is his alone or involves lots of celebs. Someone on the other thread mentioned that about 100 people were suing, if that's the case how long is this expected to go on for?

Icanbringmyselfflowers · 06/06/2023 13:51

Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · 06/06/2023 13:45

I strongly suspect this isn’t about winning or loosing for harry, it’s about having his day in court. He wants to publicly say it all, he, once again, wants to tell “his truth” as publicly as possible. Every perceived wrong to be aired. Every accusation he can think of to be made public.

But it's a very expensive way to do it. Normally he gets paid for his opinions. Does he honestly believe he's going to win or has he got way more money than we think he has?

Well they reportedly got 88 million for their Netflix interview, and he was already worth about million, I don’t know how much he got from spare but it will have beaten Netflix by the time all,royalties counted, so this is pocket change to him if it costs a couple of million. It’s not about the money and he can easily afford it.

TrashyPanda · 06/06/2023 13:51

Using the word “criminal” rather than “unethical” in a civil court case suggests he could have been better prepared.

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Icanbringmyselfflowers · 06/06/2023 13:52

Already worth about 30 million, sorry

TrashyPanda · 06/06/2023 13:53

Court cases can cost a lot of money very quickly.

there are all sorts of people working to support the legal team, for example.

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billysboy · 06/06/2023 13:58

only winners here will be the legal teams on both sides

Only on cold day do Lawyers have their hands in their own pockets !

sheworemellowyellow · 06/06/2023 13:58

MrsLeonFarrell · 06/06/2023 13:34

The Guardian just posted this quote from his statement:

"Having seen me grow up from a baby (being born into this ‘contractual relationship’ without any choice) and scrutinised my every move, the tabloids have known the challenges and mental health struggles that I have had to deal with throughout my childhood and adult life and for them to then play on that and use it to their own advantage, I think is, well, criminal."

After reading that I can see why he is giving evidence, the problem I think he has though is that tabloid articles about an individual are not illegal. He still hasn't said anything, as far as I can tell, that constitutes evidence of hacking.

It is all very sad. I hope his evidence doesn't affect others who are also suing.

If this is his complaint (entirely reasonable), he needs to take it up with his parents. Probably what he's been privately and publicly calling for, for years. But he's got nowhere with them because he's been told it's part of the deal: royal privilege in return for reduced privacy. He availed of the privilege, now wants recompense for the reduced privacy too.

It's like these parents on TikTok etc who do reels (or whatever they're called) using their children as unknowing bit players. Do those children grow up to sue TikTok, or to have it out with their parents?

More, though, is that yet again he's showing with his own words from his own mouth that he doesn't think he needs to take responsibility for his actions. That this is STILL someone else's job, to sort things out for him.

Suggesting it's criminal to play on the challenges and mental health struggles he's had for pecuniary advantage is gobsmackingly hypocritical. I can tell him what really should be criminal: living a cocooned life of rarified luxury where you can flunk out of one of the best schools money can buy (which you were only allowed entry into because of who you were born to) after odiously arrogant and enabled behaviour, but still avail of luxuries unimaginable to 99.9% of the world's population, and as a grown man go on to "market" yourself and your wife with your "truths" to people with REAL challenges and who knows what mental health struggles and how much or little money, for clicks and book sales and Netflix viewing numbers, in order to further feather your own already plush nest. The greed, venality, dissembling, double standards, arrogance, short sightedness, hypocrisy, stupidity and lack of self-awareness is repulsive. He's doing his brother and SIL a huge favour with all this talking, because next to him they look like angels.

IcedPurple · 06/06/2023 14:00

Seems to me that Harry is basically using the High Court as a venue to air his grievances. It must be awful to grow up in the spotlight and have intrusive stories written about you, but that's not the same thing as saying that the stories were illegally obtained. I'm not at all sure that Harry gets that.

Rinoachicken · 06/06/2023 14:03

He also seems to equate the use of private investigators as being illegal. It’s not illegal to hire a private investigator - their methods may be illegal, but not necessarily.

It’s not illegal to stand in a public place and take photos of someone, however much you don’t like it. If he believes he was being followed he might be better reporting people to the police for stalking or something?

Rinoachicken · 06/06/2023 14:04

IcedPurple · 06/06/2023 14:00

Seems to me that Harry is basically using the High Court as a venue to air his grievances. It must be awful to grow up in the spotlight and have intrusive stories written about you, but that's not the same thing as saying that the stories were illegally obtained. I'm not at all sure that Harry gets that.

I agree. It’s quite sad all round.

MayQueeen · 06/06/2023 14:05

‘He's doing his brother and SIL a huge favour with all this talking, because next to him they look like angels.’

sadly very true - they’re also v privledged and spoilt - but by keeping quiet they look so much more self aware of how fortunate they are

TrashyPanda · 06/06/2023 14:07

The court has resumed after lunch.
Andrew Green KC is continuing to go through the sample articles submitted by Prince Harry to support his claim

Prince Harry | UK news | The Guardian

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/prince-harry

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polkadotdalmation · 06/06/2023 14:07

MayQueeen · 06/06/2023 13:35

tigger2022

are people really doing that?! Either they really don’t understand the nuances or they’re just trying to tag their hero’s case onto thing of that nature just to try and make him some like a noble avenger

well harry has a very inflated idea of his own importance, so perhaps he does have a bit of an avenger (aka god) complex?

mixedrecycling · 06/06/2023 14:12

“This information was highly personal, it was distressing for the reasons I detailed in my witness statement,” Harry says of the articles about his contraction of glandular fever.

Green asks if the Mirror article was more or less distressing than articles in other newspapers about the same matter.

Harry says he is unable to recall exactly which articles he has seen and which he has read.

It's quite funny at times 😂

Rinoachicken · 06/06/2023 14:12

Again - the palace spokesperson was asked about his health and gave a comment on the record - Harry might not like it but it’s not hacking!

“Green is referring to an article about Harry contracting glandular fever.

Green draws attention to a palace spokesperson’s comments in the article – the inference being the spokesperson could be the source of the article.

But Harry once again points out that this was brought to them by the Mirror journalist – and the palace spokesperson was responding to a question.”

polkadotdalmation · 06/06/2023 14:12

jeffgoldblum · 06/06/2023 13:44

You said it better @Icanbringmyselfflowers ! 😉

Yes, she did 😀

All my sympathy for that little lost boy went when he sat quietly as his wife lied about his family to Oprah, then went on to blow their privacy and that of others, out of the water. Family loyalty is paramount when you have a family who were loyal to you. I don't believe for one minute any of his family, or camilla, briefed or planted stories about him and meghan. I simply makes no sense.

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