Drama, so much drama

[MamoruHisaishi]

I find it strange that in a city like New York, where A list celebrities and famous dignitaries and politicians have been able to go about their business without drama, the Sussexes have yet again found themselves caught in a media frenzy, where chases and near collisions were involved. How is it possible that other more high profile celebrities can avoid this issue yet the Sussexes can't? It's like everywhere they go, drama always ensues. The Royal Family were bullying/jealous of them, nearly caused Meghan to kill herself, were racist towards their son, that they were being harrassed by the media in the UK, Canada and now the US. At what point do they realise that perhaps they are creating, or at least contributing towards all this frenzy themselves? Even Kim Kardashian comes across as more drama free than these two.

Ginger and Nutmeg I hadn't heard that one.

I agree. The royals may not be the sharpest tools in the box, but there is a very good reason why 'never complain and never explain' works. And that is that NO-ONE wants to hear rich people who live in castles and prance around in crowns and robes moaning. It's sickening, particularly when ordinary people are struggling, to hear multi-millionaires whining about their lot in life. We all get it that it's not that easy or pleasant being followed around by cameras, but if Harry had wanted a quiet, private life, he could've had it. His family offered him a nice country estate where he could've had that, set up for life, no need to work, and he said No and chose the life he has. Grifting for a dollar. Chased by the paparazzi. He fucking CHOSE this.

Vile outburst? 🤣

If that had been Harry they’d have been hauling him to New York and giving him an award.

The USA doesn't care about lineage though do they?

Absolutely this!

@maranella.
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... one day there will be an actual serious incident and hardly anyone will take any notice

There already has been; don't forget Meghan telling the world she was nearly driven to suicide

I'm often surprised that the more unbalanced fans don't bring that up very often - almost as if they don't believe it and would rather it wasn't mentioned?

I find it inexplicable that people come on here and write negative post after negative post about Meghan, while knowing that she has said that at one point she considered suicide.

A growing number of women have already committed suicide after experiencing onslaughts of criticism in traditional media and on social media.

How do people, knowing this, think it is okay to criticise Meghan so relentlessly and remorselessly?

I've just watched a CBS (American channel) called 'wild about prince Harry', a documentary about his life made before he met MM. he seems such a different person, especially round his charity work in Africa. I don't understand how meeting the love of your life can bring out so much anger, depression and disaffection.

Because sometimes people threaten suicide to control their partners, you often read of men doing it to their wives, threaten suicide so their wives don’t leave them, it can be used as a weapon to control.

Many of us have seen people we were close to changing beyond recognition once they meet a narcissistic partner. It’s happened in my family. Control is a central issue for them. Everything also has to be about them. It’s exhausting and damaging for the the person who is constantly trying to appease them. Threats of suicide are very common as a way to control.

Sometimes people threaten suicide to control their partners ... it can be used as a weapon to control

Indeed

Despite the endless attempts at online MH diagnosis we can't possibly know if this is the case with M&H, but all the same it seems worth bearing in mind

Right, so Meghan now threatened suicide only to control Harry. OK.

Sounds like you've already diagnosed her.

Whatthediddlyfeck · 20/05/2023 08:53
I was just surprised that I couldn’t see seatbelts being worn! Given history…

Yes, this surprised me too. Meghan and her mother weren't wearing seat belts. Difficult to see if Harry was or not. Surely he must have heard "Diana would have survived if she'd worn a seat-belt". He looked very scared - the two women not so.

Harry has a lineage that no-one in US will ever have.

Good for the USA - where any child born there can become the Head of State, not just one of privileged few.

EmpireStateOfMine · Today 15:29
Harry has a lineage that no-one in US will ever have.

Everybody has ancestors going back for ever. We peasants just don't know all of ours

This peasant's mother took up family genealogy when she (the mother) retired.

She managed to find some of the family tree back as far as the late 1600s.

I am glad to say I have a Great (x?) uncle who was hanged for murder, another who was a bigamist, and a great(x?) aunt who was imprisoned briefly for being drunk and riotous (and ended up dying of cirrhosis of the liver)...

😂😂

As you know full well that is not what I said, however yes of course it is a possibility, as I have highlighted in my posts suicide threats can be used as a weapon to control a partner, this is not a new phenomenon.

Sounds like you've already diagnosed her

What part of " we can't possibly know if this is the case with M&H" didn't you understand, behave?

Harry needs to get himself a proper occupation; something he needs to get up and do each day; a commitment, where he would let people down if he didn't turn up, Something like helping wounded ex-servicemen; in a practical sense, not by just lending his name.

Well Meghan is a proven liar and loves to exaggerate (near catastrophic etc) so her suicidal ideation has a few holes in it. There was help available via her midwife and obstetrician, seen on a weekly basis, Harry has a therapist on speed dial and Meghan isn't some 19 year old immature girl but a grown woman who would know where to get help.

I'm sure she was hormonal, distressed, unhappy and overwhelmed with the situation and needed a more supportive husband or friends with her, although her mum was there so she had support? I don't think it was a happy time for her but she has not had MH problems before or since and suicidal ideation is far commoner in that group. I'm not saying I disbelieve her because if she says she felt that then we have to believe her it's just that she has made it easier for people to doubt her account. What I don't believe is she was denied help.

All I gather from this thread is that people do not understand media bias at all. It is sad. I hope to never have trail by public opinion.

Believe it or not many people can read, watch and think for themselves. everyone forms their opinion from media in all its forms unless they live in an hermetically sealed vacuum.

I don’t think we form opinions just by ourselves usually, we like to think we do, but unless you are checking multiple sources, reading articles in full, have access to the unedited interviews we all receive a slant and no I don’t believe most people take the time to look into it, analyse or reason why that may be.

Someone once posted the media comparisons between Megan and Catherine and their baby bumps and how that was reported on in entirely different ways. That was so subtle, the fact that some things are reported on vs others remain very low down in coverage.

I find some of the perspectives here quite interesting for example the full statements from the car chase:

I am no royal fan; not of William nor Catherine nor Harry nor Megan. After reading Spare and checking the press coverage of it I still find it amazing how words can be twisted , misrepresented and most people will never even bother checking if what was said actually was said in the book and the context.

It’s possible she was denied the ‘residential’ help she apparently wanted. In other words a few weeks at a treatment centre.