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Drama, so much drama

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MamoruHisaishi · 19/05/2023 23:41

I find it strange that in a city like New York, where A list celebrities and famous dignitaries and politicians have been able to go about their business without drama, the Sussexes have yet again found themselves caught in a media frenzy, where chases and near collisions were involved. How is it possible that other more high profile celebrities can avoid this issue yet the Sussexes can't? It's like everywhere they go, drama always ensues. The Royal Family were bullying/jealous of them, nearly caused Meghan to kill herself, were racist towards their son, that they were being harrassed by the media in the UK, Canada and now the US. At what point do they realise that perhaps they are creating, or at least contributing towards all this frenzy themselves? Even Kim Kardashian comes across as more drama free than these two.

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LadyVictoriaSponge · 21/05/2023 15:20

I believe it was a set up to show “Pa” and the Home Office what constant danger they think they are in, plus the so called “stalker”outside their mansion who was only fined for loitering, so convenient that these things happen when you are challenging the UK home office regarding the right to security………….

MamoruHisaishi · 21/05/2023 15:20

Which makes me wonder why even be in the public spotlight if harry is deathly afraid of the press and cameras flashing at him? He either learns to live with the consequences of being famous, or he lives his life away from the media. If other high profile celebrities can live private lives, there's no reason Harry can't do it too.

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maranella · 21/05/2023 15:38

Which makes me wonder why even be in the public spotlight if harry is deathly afraid of the press and cameras flashing at him?

You reckon La Markle would accept a life aware from the glare of the flashbulbs? They are like oxygen to her. He chose the wrong wife if he wants/needs a quiet life away from it all.

minou123 · 21/05/2023 15:50

MamoruHisaishi · 21/05/2023 15:03

I mentioned specifically New York coz I think location matters. New York isn't typically the type of place where paparazzi chase you down, it's actually known as the type of place that celebs can wander around and be pretty much left alone. I should know because I saw a few celebs out and about in New York and no one was harrassing them. And the contrast with the likes of Taylor Swift or harry styles, two stars that are way bigger and more popular than the Sussexes, where we don't hear these security /paparazzi chase issues in New York is quite striking. Also, I did say that the paparazzi culture has mostly disappeared, I didn't say it's completely gone. But it's rare for this to happen nowadays, especially in places like New York. That's why this so called near catastrophic chase has been disputed by the likes of the mayor and the NYPD. The sensible thing to have done, if they felt that things were beginning to get dangerous, was either pull over or go to the numerous hotels that cater to celebrities and stay the night there if they didn't want the press to know their friends location, or they could have stayed at a hotel bar or somewhere for a few hours until the press left.

In my opinion the location doesn't matter.

Whether it be NYC, the countryside, LA, or the Home Counties.
It doesn't matter if a celeb is more bigger or more popular.
It's all about who will sell for more.

A pap could probably make some money selling a picture of Taylor Swift or Harry Styles, but they know not every newspaper will be interested in buying it.

Whereas a picture of H&M, fuck me, they can start a bidding war. Every newspaper will buy the pictures and they will pay hundreds of thousands for them.
They know lot of people, like those on MN, will click on the pictures, make comments and have opinions. The more negative the better.

The paps know they can sell a photo of H&M for a lot of money to any publication in the world. They will do anything for picture. NYC or not.

Interestingly, Taylor Swifty recently ran away from.the paps. Funnily enough, the publication treats it like entertainment. They dont care how she felt or they were invading her privacy
https://uk-style-yahoo-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/uk.style.yahoo.com/amphtml/taylor-swift-joe-alwyn-held-080800637.html?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQIUAKwASCAAgM%3D#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=16846792082443&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fuk.style.yahoo.com%2Ftaylor-swift-joe-alwyn-held-080800637.html

Harry Styles famously sought injuction/restraining orders against some paparazzi. And won.

Taylor Swift And Joe Alwyn Held Hands And Ran Away From Paparazzi After A VMAs After Party

Taylor Swift lived out her lyric 'would you run away with me' last night when she and her boyfriend Joe Alwyn were filmed holding hands and sprinting out of the door of the Fleur Room to their vehicle before paparazzi could photograph them.

https://uk-style-yahoo-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/uk.style.yahoo.com/amphtml/taylor-swift-joe-alwyn-held-080800637.html?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQIUAKwASCAAgM%3D#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=16846792082443&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fuk.style.yahoo.com%2Ftaylor-swift-joe-alwyn-held-080800637.html

Farmageddon · 21/05/2023 17:10

minou123 · 21/05/2023 15:50

In my opinion the location doesn't matter.

Whether it be NYC, the countryside, LA, or the Home Counties.
It doesn't matter if a celeb is more bigger or more popular.
It's all about who will sell for more.

A pap could probably make some money selling a picture of Taylor Swift or Harry Styles, but they know not every newspaper will be interested in buying it.

Whereas a picture of H&M, fuck me, they can start a bidding war. Every newspaper will buy the pictures and they will pay hundreds of thousands for them.
They know lot of people, like those on MN, will click on the pictures, make comments and have opinions. The more negative the better.

The paps know they can sell a photo of H&M for a lot of money to any publication in the world. They will do anything for picture. NYC or not.

Interestingly, Taylor Swifty recently ran away from.the paps. Funnily enough, the publication treats it like entertainment. They dont care how she felt or they were invading her privacy
https://uk-style-yahoo-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/uk.style.yahoo.com/amphtml/taylor-swift-joe-alwyn-held-080800637.html?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQIUAKwASCAAgM%3D#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=16846792082443&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fuk.style.yahoo.com%2Ftaylor-swift-joe-alwyn-held-080800637.html

Harry Styles famously sought injuction/restraining orders against some paparazzi. And won.

And even still, she managed to not release a melodramatic statement through her PR catastrophising the whole thing.... funny that.

minou123 · 21/05/2023 17:52

Farmageddon · 21/05/2023 17:10

And even still, she managed to not release a melodramatic statement through her PR catastrophising the whole thing.... funny that.

She has released statements/talked about many times in the past, but no-one cares, so what's the point?

I'm sure when it is a famous person we like and they talk about what the paparazzi have done to them, we think "oh god that's awful. Something should be done"
But nothing is done, because no one cares.

H&M statement is no more melodramatic than Scarlett Johansens (sp?) statement about what the paps did to her. Or Jennifer Garners statement about what she has to contend with.
Are they drama llamas? Should they just put up with it because they are in the limelight?

8roses · 21/05/2023 18:43

They’re a laughing stock - not what Meghan was hoping for

polkadotdalmation · 21/05/2023 19:14

Ah. Scarlett Johan son had a genuine car chase, so H&M thought it would be a good copy?

Spectre8 · 21/05/2023 19:45

And when they were nowhere to be seen for a month or so, the media still wrote almost 100 articles about them....

Maybe you need to consider its not always their fault

EmpireStateOfMine · 21/05/2023 19:52

Sometimes I feel like Harry is locked into a circular argument: I have to live like this because I have to fund security for my family, and my family needs security because I live like this.

Also, it seems like a lot of the shitty and undignified stuff is happening in the USA, alongside the lifestyle.

polkadotdalmation · 21/05/2023 20:02

I can't help but think regarding Harry, be careful what you wish for. I don't think he wanted the life he has in a million years. A fucking bigger goldfish bowl than the RF ever was, or at least similar, a wife craving the limelight he's tried to shun, and he has to actually work to pay for it! He's stuck with it now, and I for one would be disgusted if he left his children, although to be fair, I don't think he will.

MamoruHisaishi · 21/05/2023 21:41

minou123 · 21/05/2023 15:50

In my opinion the location doesn't matter.

Whether it be NYC, the countryside, LA, or the Home Counties.
It doesn't matter if a celeb is more bigger or more popular.
It's all about who will sell for more.

A pap could probably make some money selling a picture of Taylor Swift or Harry Styles, but they know not every newspaper will be interested in buying it.

Whereas a picture of H&M, fuck me, they can start a bidding war. Every newspaper will buy the pictures and they will pay hundreds of thousands for them.
They know lot of people, like those on MN, will click on the pictures, make comments and have opinions. The more negative the better.

The paps know they can sell a photo of H&M for a lot of money to any publication in the world. They will do anything for picture. NYC or not.

Interestingly, Taylor Swifty recently ran away from.the paps. Funnily enough, the publication treats it like entertainment. They dont care how she felt or they were invading her privacy
https://uk-style-yahoo-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/uk.style.yahoo.com/amphtml/taylor-swift-joe-alwyn-held-080800637.html?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQIUAKwASCAAgM%3D#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=16846792082443&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fuk.style.yahoo.com%2Ftaylor-swift-joe-alwyn-held-080800637.html

Harry Styles famously sought injuction/restraining orders against some paparazzi. And won.

Lol now I just know you're making things up. In what universe are Harry and Meghan’s photos more popular than Taylor swift or harry styles’? You cite this website as though it’s proof of their popularity . Perhaps you should look outside this bubble, and actually see what’s trending on entertainment media and Harry and Meghan are barely mentioned. The fact is, as much as you may like to claim otherwise, most Americans don’t care about Harry and Meghan. This chase wouldn’t have even made it into the news if the Sussexes hadn’t released that melodramatic and over the top statement. It seems like they’re starting to annoy even the Americans. They have nothing to offer apart from royal gossip, so not sure why you think they’re more popular than they actually are. Also, taylor swift’s photos would be way more popular than the Sussexes because she’s also recently broken up with her boyfriend and there’s talk of her dating someone new. Of course the paparazzi would be all over that instead of the Sussexes. I understand you’re a fan, but still…what you just wrote is completely ludicrous.

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MamoruHisaishi · 21/05/2023 21:52

Spectre8 · 21/05/2023 19:45

And when they were nowhere to be seen for a month or so, the media still wrote almost 100 articles about them....

Maybe you need to consider its not always their fault

what does this have to do with their over the top statement? No one would even be discussing this or questioning them if they hadn’t released the statement themselves that drew parallels to Diana’s car crash. I didn’t say it’s always their fault, I stated that the Sussexes seem to get embroiled in drama wherever they go to. Such as the royal family controlling/bullying them and causing a near suicide, a fire almost killing Archie in South Africa, media harassing them in Canada, media harassing them in the UK, now in the USA. Oh and they also supposedly experienced harassment when they were staying in Tyler Perry’s house, etc. Even Kim kardashian, who is no stranger to controversy herself and has a lot of haters, doesn’t get into these never ending issues like the Sussexes do.

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minou123 · 21/05/2023 21:54

MamoruHisaishi · 21/05/2023 21:41

Lol now I just know you're making things up. In what universe are Harry and Meghan’s photos more popular than Taylor swift or harry styles’? You cite this website as though it’s proof of their popularity . Perhaps you should look outside this bubble, and actually see what’s trending on entertainment media and Harry and Meghan are barely mentioned. The fact is, as much as you may like to claim otherwise, most Americans don’t care about Harry and Meghan. This chase wouldn’t have even made it into the news if the Sussexes hadn’t released that melodramatic and over the top statement. It seems like they’re starting to annoy even the Americans. They have nothing to offer apart from royal gossip, so not sure why you think they’re more popular than they actually are. Also, taylor swift’s photos would be way more popular than the Sussexes because she’s also recently broken up with her boyfriend and there’s talk of her dating someone new. Of course the paparazzi would be all over that instead of the Sussexes. I understand you’re a fan, but still…what you just wrote is completely ludicrous.

I didn't say H&M were more popular than Taylor Swift.

Read what I actually said.

Paps taking pictures have nothing to do with who is popular or have a bigger fan base.

NoRestForMe · 21/05/2023 22:01

They are a laughing stock.

They have not learnt the art of silence.

They pull some stunt so everyone feels sorry for them. It doesn't work. They get upset it didn't work so try again. It doesn't work again and they are disliked a bit more. So they try again. It doesn't work again and their popularity decreases again .. and so it continues.

They are desperate to be loved and for people to feel sorry for them.

Harry, you were loved by most of Britain once, and as a kid we did feel sorry for you. BUT, you cannot recreate that. You are a man now. You need to stop seeking love and victimhood. You need to grow up and heed your granny's advice to "Never complain, never explain'. It is good advice. There is much virtue in dignified silence.

NoRestForMe · 21/05/2023 22:04

Spectre8 · 21/05/2023 19:45

And when they were nowhere to be seen for a month or so, the media still wrote almost 100 articles about them....

Maybe you need to consider its not always their fault

A month is all they could manage! They should try a bit longer - like a year or two or more(?)

They could have just left this 'near catastrophic chase' or whatever it was. They could have said nothing. But no! They release this ridiculous dramatic statement. It wasn't catastrophic or anywhere near! It wasn't a chase.

They do need to just shut up. But they can't.

QueenOfHiraeth · 21/05/2023 22:24

Does anyone else remember in one of their videos, possibly in the Netflix documentary, there was a bit filmed in the car where Meghan kept pointing out someone following them and Harry seemed increasingly anxious yet she kept on? I remember there being a discussion on here about it and do wonder the part she is playing in him unravelling as he seems to be

MamoruHisaishi · 21/05/2023 22:24

minou123 · 21/05/2023 21:54

I didn't say H&M were more popular than Taylor Swift.

Read what I actually said.

Paps taking pictures have nothing to do with who is popular or have a bigger fan base.

And read what I wrote. Why would the Sussexes photos be worth more than Taylor swift’s? Taylor swift has had a recent break up and is supposedly dating someone new. It's reasonable to assume that getting photos of her and her new beau would be worth a lot more than photos of the sussexes.

The Sussexes aren't as well known in the USA, they're nowhere even close to Kim Kardashian’s infamy. They don't have anything to offer apart from selling royal stories, and that's unlikely to happen now. This recent outing of theirs barely even generated any interest or mention in entertainment news until they released their dramatic statement. If one were a cynic, it almost seems like theyre creating/manufacturing controversy in order to gain attention that they desperately want.

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ZellyFitzgerald · 21/05/2023 22:43

Ginger and Nutmeg need to realise why the Royal family has had the motto 'Never complain, never explain' for so long.

It's the only thing that works. Everything they do seems to make everything worse.

The US isn't looking like it's faring much better for them than the UK after all.

minou123 · 21/05/2023 22:57

MamoruHisaishi · 21/05/2023 22:24

And read what I wrote. Why would the Sussexes photos be worth more than Taylor swift’s? Taylor swift has had a recent break up and is supposedly dating someone new. It's reasonable to assume that getting photos of her and her new beau would be worth a lot more than photos of the sussexes.

The Sussexes aren't as well known in the USA, they're nowhere even close to Kim Kardashian’s infamy. They don't have anything to offer apart from selling royal stories, and that's unlikely to happen now. This recent outing of theirs barely even generated any interest or mention in entertainment news until they released their dramatic statement. If one were a cynic, it almost seems like theyre creating/manufacturing controversy in order to gain attention that they desperately want.

Because its all about what would sell the most newspapers or get the most clicks.

You may not agree. But let me put it this way, the "set up" paparrazi picture taken of Thomas Markle getting fitted for a suit was reportedly sold for £100,000.

That's the crazy money we are talking about. And that was just Thomas Markle.

Paparrazi pictures of Prince George were selling for a lot, why do you think that guy was out stalking and following the Cambridges/Wales? I dread to think how much the pictures of The Queen and Andrew out riding sold for.

Like or or not, paparrazi pictures of the Royal Family are valuable.

minou123 · 21/05/2023 23:15

I am a fan of Taylor Swift, BTW.

I mean, I dont know all her songs, but I'm a "fan" in the sense of how she stands up for herself.
I thought she was phenomenonal how she handled that civil court case from the guy who sexually assaulted her. She took zero shit from his lawyer.

Spectre8 · 21/05/2023 23:45

NoRestForMe · 21/05/2023 22:04

A month is all they could manage! They should try a bit longer - like a year or two or more(?)

They could have just left this 'near catastrophic chase' or whatever it was. They could have said nothing. But no! They release this ridiculous dramatic statement. It wasn't catastrophic or anywhere near! It wasn't a chase.

They do need to just shut up. But they can't.

They released it in response to pics and an article thT was put out by the media who the deleted it once they made a statement...least get your facts right. They didn't just release it for no reason

MamoruHisaishi · 22/05/2023 00:05

minou123 · 21/05/2023 22:57

Because its all about what would sell the most newspapers or get the most clicks.

You may not agree. But let me put it this way, the "set up" paparrazi picture taken of Thomas Markle getting fitted for a suit was reportedly sold for £100,000.

That's the crazy money we are talking about. And that was just Thomas Markle.

Paparrazi pictures of Prince George were selling for a lot, why do you think that guy was out stalking and following the Cambridges/Wales? I dread to think how much the pictures of The Queen and Andrew out riding sold for.

Like or or not, paparrazi pictures of the Royal Family are valuable.

Okay you've clearly not kept up with the times. Those Thomas Markle photos were sold during the height of the Sussexes popularity, back in 2018, when they were still within the royal family and about to get married. Of course it stands to reason that those photos sold at such a high price because they were very popular back then, they were actually in demand. After their exit from the royal family, book, the documentary, and their interviews, what do the sussexes have left that would generate such demand and clicks? Apart from releasing controversial statements and suing the press of course.

The Sussexes live in the USA, and they're cut off from the royal family. There is nothing left to sell as they've basically told their stories already. People are getting bored with them, and Americans don't seem to have much patience for them anymore. So not sure why it's relevant to compare the sussexes to the wales family, when the Wales’ live in the uk and are the face and future of the royal family.

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MamoruHisaishi · 22/05/2023 00:08

minou123 · 21/05/2023 23:15

I am a fan of Taylor Swift, BTW.

I mean, I dont know all her songs, but I'm a "fan" in the sense of how she stands up for herself.
I thought she was phenomenonal how she handled that civil court case from the guy who sexually assaulted her. She took zero shit from his lawyer.

And as a fan you'd know that she generates more media interest than the sussexes because she actually has a product to sell, unlike the sussexes. I'm not even a fan of Taylor swift and even I can see how in demand she is and how much her love life is of interest to her fans and to the public.

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MamoruHisaishi · 22/05/2023 00:10

Spectre8 · 21/05/2023 23:45

They released it in response to pics and an article thT was put out by the media who the deleted it once they made a statement...least get your facts right. They didn't just release it for no reason

Lol no one even knew there was a ‘chase’ until the sussexes released that statement.

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