Drama, so much drama

[MamoruHisaishi]

I find it strange that in a city like New York, where A list celebrities and famous dignitaries and politicians have been able to go about their business without drama, the Sussexes have yet again found themselves caught in a media frenzy, where chases and near collisions were involved. How is it possible that other more high profile celebrities can avoid this issue yet the Sussexes can't? It's like everywhere they go, drama always ensues. The Royal Family were bullying/jealous of them, nearly caused Meghan to kill herself, were racist towards their son, that they were being harrassed by the media in the UK, Canada and now the US. At what point do they realise that perhaps they are creating, or at least contributing towards all this frenzy themselves? Even Kim Kardashian comes across as more drama free than these two.

I'm not sure it matters if it's a bike ride in the countryside or a taxi in NYC, paparazzi invading privacy, stalking and harrasing clearly upsets both brothers.

My point was really to the Op, who claims other celebrities avoid getting harrased and pap culture has died down. I'm pointing out that's not true.

Its probably because we just don't care. We dont care when celebs complain about the paps. As others have done on this thread, we blame the celebs - they court the press, so they deserve to be harrased, stalked, chased, followed by paps. I mean, they want it, they are asking for it, arent they?

When we look at pictures of celebrities in tabloids, gutter rags and gossip magazines, we look judge, comment and make MN threads to discuss it
We never stop to think of the circumstances of how that picture was taken. What did the paparazzi do to get that picture?

Exactly. Once again every single bit of this could have been avoided if they behaved rationally and made better decisions.

they knew they needed to keep the friends privacy intact, so why stay in their home after a high profile event. Just stay in a local hotel like every other celeb does. Then it could have been five min drive to the hotel. Job done.

don’t issue over exaggerated statements that can be disproven easily , it’s very clear there was no high speed chase round New York,

don’t issue statements that make it clear you’re trying to reference Diana’s death circumstances when it’s untrue, it’s deeply distasteful and disturbing.

do not have your lawyers right letters demanding someone gives you their legally owned property , it’s arrogant, entitled and unacceptable.

every bit of this utter nonsense is once again down to them and their poor behaviour. They learned nothing from spare of their interviews.

First chance they got they were right back at it.

This.

I'm feeling increasingly sorry for Meghan tbh. He doesn't seem like the easiest partner to live with. I couldn't cope with the neediness & drama.

Well Harry's Mom was pretty fond of drama so l suppose he is taking after her.

I think Meghan has slowly picked away at every scab and scar of a deeply vulnerable man and he’s let her. She must’ve loved the car “chase” if that’s what it was. To me, she’s woven herself into his fabric and is hoping to be the “new Diana”. She must be as disturbed as him the only difference being she’s fully aware of what she’s doing ie manipulating him

You know the answer though? You don’t find it strange.

Harry has an odd relationship with the truth. In his memoir, for instance, he states that he had a therapist - at exactly the same time as they both insisted, to Oprah and Omid, that Meghan couldn't get any help with her mental health 🤔

Not to mention that whole "this is the unfeeling way I was told about the Queen Mother's death, all on my own at school, by a flunky" when, it is provable, he was actually in Klosters skiing with his father and brother.

So no, I don't believe much that he says now.

Oh cmon, we all saw her on Oprah and in their series, she was absolutely and utterly a key participant in all this bullshit and loving rhe Drama. An innocent by stander she is not, some of the bullshit she’s said is unbelievable and she’s been incredibly sneery about all things royal

yes he is the key player, but she’s one hundred percent in there egging him on . Meghan markle is far from some innocent love lorn victim. She’s a ruthlessly ambitious social climber who thrives on attention.

Trouble is, once he sees her for who she really is it’ll be too late. She probs can’t believe what a soft touch he was and so easily separated from his family; especially William to whom he was so close. I’d say she’s loving every minute. One day he’ll get the measure of her; woman with a past littered with discarded people

How is it possible that other more high profile celebrities can avoid this issue yet the Sussexes can't?

Can't you see that the tabloids have created this frenzy? And the public lap it up, so they create even more? The paps do this because the tabloids pay good money for it. It's a viscous circle now. Anything the Sussexes say or do is sensationalised and twisted, and words are put in their mouths ,and all this creates even more frenzy. Blame them if you like but I blame the tabloids for it all.

I don't think H&M actually WANT this much drama, that's why they moved away in the first place.

They've done nothing in the last 3 years except create drama!

They are doing it though, 😂 it’s them who did Oprah, the docu series. The book. And this untrue statement saying a high speed chase for two hours. And then rudely demanded to thr owner, they are given the images . It’s not the media, it’s them, they need to stop doing mad shit.

The thread title promised so much ☹ but yet another H&M

@behaveasbefitsthesituationwillyas totally agree. Looking around this section and witness the obsessive behaviour of some. Bonkers. They don't know H&M and more than likely will never even meet them. They dissect every bit of info available, put their own spin on it, speculate and exaggerate, try to dehumanise them. They get upset if anyone even mentions their behaviour on other threads. The list is endless. You can only imagine how they act with people they know.

BTW Harry Potter has been recommended to me as somewhere to hang out if I dislike it here so much. Haven't ventured yet.

But they could have completely avoided the paps by taking the usual measures that others take to avoid them. Then there would not have been anything for the tabloids to create a frenzy about. As one of Diana’s former bodyguards said, thing like this need to be ore planned and “stage managed “ to avoid unwanted attention not would seem that there security detail were spectacularly incompetent. See here

“Pre planned”and “it would seem”. 🙄

It was not high speed, you keep repeating things that have been debunked- they did not say that. 🙄

This is what happens people mindlessly repeat the same lies over and over again because it reinforces how they want to think.

The Oprah - it was a response to all the press crap they faced in the first place. They felt the need to put their side across.

The book - Harry's book about his life. He's entitled to do that, as is anyone. Again the press sensationalised bits of it and took it out of context and tried to ruin it for him. Backfired in their face LOL!!

And then rudely demanded to thr owner, they are given the images

Images that were rudely and aggressively taken of them, without their permission, you mean?

You’ve actually devoted brain space to this, haven’t you?

I saw Omid Scobie giving an interview a couple of days ago saying that H&M's SVU went at speeds up to 80mph at one point, before the taxi bit. I think that was a daft thing for him to say if it's not actually true.

@EmpireStateOfMine I think it was just at one point. But sounds like it was mostly lots of stopping, turning, swerving, avoiding etc. One of the security guards, and the taxi driver, said that they kept within the speed limits but it was the paparazzi that were speeding, going onto sidewalks recklessly etc.

so blame them for it?. The security were clearly rubbish though

Why do you think I was blaming them? I said the whole thing was badly managed. Presumably that was on their security, not them 🤷‍♀️

Forgot to add, the statement that was released by their spokesperson did add to the drama though. If my GCSE students manage that kind of hyperbolic emotive language in their persuasive writing question, they will all get 9’s 😂

I don’t think this is true… firstly it was THEIR mouthpiece Omid Scobie who said they were doing 80mph. Secondly, the scene they described of a “near catastrophic” accident, a car “chase” (being “followed” is the far more obvious and accurate verb) where people were nearly run over, where they were running red lights, where they were taking “evasive manoeuvres”, are we supposed to believe purely from the description all this was happening at 4mph?! In fact the paparazzi slowly crawled through a red light, did they? They hire PR professionals, they are campaigners for their own rights, they are not conjuring up this imagery of a high speed chase by mistake, even if they try to claim plausible deniability once that’s been debunked.

This is exactly what I thought as well looking at the photos. Harry looks almost manic and has a face like thunder, whilst attempting to film everything on his own phone. The situation was obviously very triggering for him and he made a lot of erratic decisions. Meghan looks calmer but has a tight lipped smile that indicates she was more stressed about Harry than the paps. She has that facial expression where she knows her husband is going apeshit, it's all being filmed and she doesn't know how to de-escalate the situation.

I'm willing to bet that Meghan will use this as evidence for divorce sometime down the line. Harry is the one that constantly brings her (and in this case her mum) in danger. Quite the opposite of trying to protect his wife, he is a loose cannon with severe MH problems

Also, the justification for the 2 hour chase is that they didn't want the paps knowing where they were staying (private residence). However it's well-known that they use the same apartment whenever they are in New York, somewhere near the United Nations HQ. The same apartment was filmed multiple times in their Netflix documentary...there's one scene where she gets fitted in a billowing dress inside.