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What next for the Sussexes?

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Casuaala · 07/05/2023 14:49

I thought yesterday couldn't have gone better, all things considered; there was the least amount of drama or negative coverage possible regarding the Sussexes.

I'd like to hope that this marks a fresh start. Harry's got all the recriminations off his chest. The Royal Family have maintained a dignified silence and hopefully the future is rosy. The Sussexes can have the life they want in the US, with a small presence in family events back here when appropriate. (I wouldn't be surprised however if Megan never makes it back on UK soil).

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BeenThereTooo · 11/05/2023 07:56

Whaeanui · 11/05/2023 07:54

It isn’t my definition. The suggestion is insulting, deliberately so. We are discussing racism. You are laughing about it.

No one is laughing at racism. Maybe laughing at your inability to see anyone else's POV.

mixedrecycling · 11/05/2023 07:56

Whaeanui · 11/05/2023 07:54

It isn’t my definition. The suggestion is insulting, deliberately so. We are discussing racism. You are laughing about it.

We are discussing 'what next for the Sussexes'.

You have a pattern of accusing anyone who doesn't agree with you as racist. To the point it is getting obvious and amusing.

Whaeanui · 11/05/2023 07:57

mixedrecycling · 11/05/2023 07:56

We are discussing 'what next for the Sussexes'.

You have a pattern of accusing anyone who doesn't agree with you as racist. To the point it is getting obvious and amusing.

That’s not accurate. You have a pattern of minimising racism and laughing at women of colour discussing it, you do this every time.

BeenThereTooo · 11/05/2023 07:57

BeenThereTooo · 11/05/2023 07:51

How do you know I am white? If I am not white then i MUST be agreeing with you? Do you know me?

@Whaeanui

mixedrecycling · 11/05/2023 07:59

Whaeanui · 11/05/2023 07:57

That’s not accurate. You have a pattern of minimising racism and laughing at women of colour discussing it, you do this every time.

As I have said, I am amused by your posts, not by racism.

Whaeanui · 11/05/2023 07:59

Well I’m not going to play games.

unbelieveable22 · 11/05/2023 07:59

BeenThereTooo · 11/05/2023 07:46

Don't be silly now otherwise you are falling into that easy way out of a debate..

See @Whaeanui you are being silly now. How dare you as a woman of colour call out racism.
This thread and others are littered with posters defining racism. Some have indicated they are white. Who are they to tell anyone what to think or how to feel?
While Harry has been castigated it seems to me most of the real nastiness is directed towards Meghan. Why would so much anger be directed towards her? She left the country, is living her life thousands of miles away and yet some cannot hide their anger. Some of the language used against her if put together, even in the past few weeks, makes for very uncomfortable reading. Why is that?

Whaeanui · 11/05/2023 08:01

mixedrecycling · 11/05/2023 07:59

As I have said, I am amused by your posts, not by racism.

What I responded to was a white woman ( polka ) saying a woman of colour is responsible for undoing work done against racism. That means if there is more racism, she is responsible for it. Why would you laugh at that. Seriously.

BeenThereTooo · 11/05/2023 08:01

Whaeanui · 11/05/2023 07:59

Well I’m not going to play games.

If this is in reply to my post then I would like to know why you assumed I was white? Wait - that's not racist, is it?

SoTedious · 11/05/2023 08:01

*What was unfounded was that Archie couldn't be a Prince because of his colour.

It wasn’t said like that though.*

It was said like that.

Whaeanui · 11/05/2023 08:02

No it isn’t. Read your own posts. Don’t bait me or play games around race. Either correct me or stop.

BeenThereTooo · 11/05/2023 08:02

Whaeanui · 11/05/2023 08:02

No it isn’t. Read your own posts. Don’t bait me or play games around race. Either correct me or stop.

I am asking a direct question. Why did you assume I was white?

smilesy · 11/05/2023 08:03

Whaeanui · 11/05/2023 07:56

She was clearly talking about when Charles became King.

Was she? I thought that the rule (letters patent) would have to be changed when the Queen was still alive because the instant Charles became king then the existing letters would be enacted. As was indeed the case. And the fact the security is linked to titles was completely made up.

ArcaneWireless · 11/05/2023 08:04

Lol. So, this is how it' spinned now?

Ive no idea how it is being spun. I said it could be true and that it might not be. Same goes for the book.

Truth is no-one knows bar the parties concerned. And no one knows who let that particular story go to the press either.

So hang your lol cherub. I merely copied a link.

As far as I’m concerned none of us will ever know the whole story of what went on. I’m not inclined to blindly believe anyone. I am not a fan of hazy recollections or muddling of stories from anyone either.

The truth is just that. Easy to recount with no deviations.

Whaeanui · 11/05/2023 08:04

smilesy · 11/05/2023 08:03

Was she? I thought that the rule (letters patent) would have to be changed when the Queen was still alive because the instant Charles became king then the existing letters would be enacted. As was indeed the case. And the fact the security is linked to titles was completely made up.

Yes. The Queen was alive then so…. They were discussing doing it while she was alive, according to H.

Whaeanui · 11/05/2023 08:07

@unbelieveable22 I know right? How silly of me to object to people like me being referred to as bad examples.

kirinm · 11/05/2023 08:09

@polkadotdalmation please do explain how Meghan existing has somehow defeated progress made in defeating racism? You think people of colour have to behave in a specific way to ensure people aren't racist?

That's such a fucked up thing to say.

smilesy · 11/05/2023 08:11

Whaeanui · 11/05/2023 08:04

Yes. The Queen was alive then so…. They were discussing doing it while she was alive, according to H.

I thought it was Meghan who brought this up during the interview. Did Harry confirm it? I must have missed that 🤷‍♀️

Howsimplywonderful · 11/05/2023 08:12

@smilesy

I must have missed it too.

BeenThereTooo · 11/05/2023 08:13

Whaeanui · 11/05/2023 08:07

@unbelieveable22 I know right? How silly of me to object to people like me being referred to as bad examples.

How silly of me too to object to people deciding my race with no knowledge. Anyway I understand that you cannot answer this without incriminating yourself so I will let you out of the corner you have backed yourself into.

Whaeanui · 11/05/2023 08:27

BeenThereTooo · 11/05/2023 08:13

How silly of me too to object to people deciding my race with no knowledge. Anyway I understand that you cannot answer this without incriminating yourself so I will let you out of the corner you have backed yourself into.

There is no corner. You are now badgering someone after being racist about them. I based it on what you wrote to me after I referred to the white poster. What you do if that’s wrong is correct me. You don’t use race like you are doing to goad. Especially after you made a racist statement.

Samcro · 11/05/2023 09:39

i think its a shame these threads become all about racism, it is an important subject, but does tend to shut down rf threads.
its like when posters bring up michelle obama.

could there not be a thread about that?

kirinm · 11/05/2023 09:46

Samcro · 11/05/2023 09:39

i think its a shame these threads become all about racism, it is an important subject, but does tend to shut down rf threads.
its like when posters bring up michelle obama.

could there not be a thread about that?

Would be helpful if people didn't say things like 'Meghan has defeated the progress made against racism'. Because you know, that's a fucking ridiculous thing to say and clearly blames people of colour for actual racism.

Could've just said 'Oh us being racist is your fault and Meghan has ruined all of our hard work in being more tolerant'.

Isn't that just insanely offensive?!

SoTedious · 11/05/2023 09:59

I am still not 100% sure whether to be mad with Meghan for alleging racism which according to Harry didn't happen, or mad with Harry for denying racism which according to Meghan did happen. It's a muddle.

cathyandclare · 11/05/2023 10:21

Surely unconscious bias against people of colour is racism?

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