What next for the Sussexes?

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I thought yesterday couldn't have gone better, all things considered; there was the least amount of drama or negative coverage possible regarding the Sussexes.

I'd like to hope that this marks a fresh start. Harry's got all the recriminations off his chest. The Royal Family have maintained a dignified silence and hopefully the future is rosy. The Sussexes can have the life they want in the US, with a small presence in family events back here when appropriate. (I wouldn't be surprised however if Megan never makes it back on UK soil).

And people glorifying Harry for taking Drugs
No one is glorifying and he isn't either. It's his story.

Minimising the dangers of weed smoking is downright irresponsible
No one has done that. You have joined this thread late Ohpleeeese and might not have caught the whole story.

"I would say it is one of the fundamental parts of my life that changed me and helped me deal with the traumas and the pains of the past. They’re unlocking so much of what we’ve suppressed”

This is what Harry said (as the Tatler reports). I don't read it asglorifyingor that it's even a part of his life now

Read it again, Inkanta; I agree the "glorifying" is subjective, but he didn't say something like it's how he dealt with things at the time ... he said it is part of his life

Unless we're going to discuss what the meaning of "is" is (thanks, Bill Clinton ), that sounds like present tense to me

Conclusions
In summary, effects of marijuana on anxiety disorders are complex. The endocannabinoid system appears to play an important role in responses to stress and anxiety. The two primary active ingredients of marijuana, THC and CBD, appear to have differing effects with regard to anxiety. Pure THC appears to decrease anxiety at lower doses and increase anxiety at higher doses. On the other hand, pure CBD appears to decrease anxiety at all doses that have been tested. There appears to be tolerance to these effects over a short period of time with regular use. There are individual differences in responses to marijuana that are affected by a variety of factors. Many people report using marijuana to cope with anxiety, and this may be particularly common among those with social anxiety disorder. Those who are concerned about marijuana increasing anxiety are unlikely to use it whereas those who use it and find it to be beneficial presumably continue to use marijuana. Doing so may offer some benefit in the short term, at least in terms of anxiety, but well-controlled studies indicate that use of marijuana is associated with increased likelihood of substance use disorders in the future

adai.uw.edu/pubs/pdf/2017mjanxiety.pdf

The research supporting the use of cannabis for sleep and mental health is nascent, however. Some small studies have found that CBD alleviates symptoms in people with social anxiety. And several studies looking at using cannabinoids for chronic pain have found that those patients saw a reduction in their anxiety, too. Researchers at McLean Hospital in Massachusetts have just completed the first phase of a clinical trial, which is under peer review, of CBD for anxiety: Those who received CBD saw about a 70% to 80% improvement on measures of anxiety, says Staci Gruber, director of McLean’s Marijuana Investigations for Neuroscientific Discovery (MIND) program and the senior author of the study.

Ayahuasca has long been used for indigenous healing and spiritual rituals. This is what Harry refers to as helping him deal with trauma and anxiety.

Conclusion: Drinkers of Ayahuasca in naturalistic settings perceived remarkable benefits for their affective symptoms in this survey assessment. There is no obvious evidence of negative mental health effects being associated with long-term consumption. Additional randomized controlled trial evidence is required to establish the efficacy of Ayahuasca in affective disorders, and to understand the worsened symptoms reported by a small percentage of drinkers.

www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2666915321000251

www.psypost.org/2021/06/ayahuasca-use-associated-with-greatly-improved-anxiety-and-depression-symptoms-in-large-international-study-61315

focus.psychiatryonline.org/doi/10.1176/appi.focus.20200047

Ayahuasca improved self-perception of speech performance in socially anxious individuals. These effects occurred independent of task-related anxiety and REFE, suggesting that ayahuasca could specifically improve the cognitive aspect of speech performance. Further studies should try to unveil the mechanisms involved in the effects of ayahuasca and to better understand its effects on anxiety.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34166299/

But alcohol-related harms are not restricted to those experiencing dependency (about 600,000 people in England alone). Even relatively low doses of alcohol consumed on a regular basis increase the risk of health issues, including digestive and cardiovascular diseases, traumatic injuries and cancers of the oesophagus, liver and breast; a recent study estimated that almost 750,000 new cancer cases in 2020 were attributable to alcohol use worldwide, including about 100,000 from “moderate drinking”. Previously heralded claims of alcohol, especially red wine, providing a “protective” function for issues such as heart disease and diabetes are also in doubt and now considered “offset by monotonic [closely correlated] associations with cancer”.

Alcohol

Read it again, Inkanta; I agree the "glorifying" is subjective, but he didn't say something like it's how he dealt with things at the time ... he said itispart of his life

Past tense - it helped me deal with the traumas so the fact he used is part if his life.

Going purely by their appearance on occasions - especially Harry’s - I wouldn’t be in the slightest bit surprised if they are both heavy drinkers in addition to their dope habits.

There were 8,974 deaths from alcohol-specific causes in 2020 compared with 7,565 in 2019 – an increase of nearly 19%, according to the Office for National Statistics. Close to eight out of 10 of the deaths were a result of alcoholic liver disease.
A recent Public Health England study reported a 25% increase in sales of alcohol in supermarkets and shops during the pandemic, fuelling evidence there was a sharp rise in heavy drinking at home.

https://www.channel4.com/news/the-frontline-of-britains-lockdown-drink-problem-as-alcohol-deaths-soar

There were 8,974 deaths from alcohol-specific causes in 2020 compared with 7,565 in 2019 – an increase of nearly 19%, according to the Office for National Statistics. Close to eight out of 10 of the deaths were a result of alcoholic liver disease.

Yes, and I gather the combination of alcohol with other drugs like cannabis is especially harmful, something Harry really should be mindful of

May 2020:
After sanitising his hands with gel near the bar, he asked the pub's landlords: "Can I have a pint of cider please? I'm a cider man," and ordered a £4.15 pint of Aspall Suffolk Draught Cyder and a plate of chips.
William revealed his own children love the pub's play area.
"The children have been in there a few times," he said, staring at the ropes preventing anyone entering. "They will see that as a challenge."

https://news.sky.com/story/amp/prince-william-enjoys-pint-of-cider-at-his-local-as-pubs-across-england-prepare-to-reopen-12020716

@KattyJo I think as alcohol related deaths increased during lockdown that you should also be concerned that William glorified drinking and does it in front of the children. Using the logic of posters here that is. Not mine. If Harry is wrong, so is William and all the other royals for glamourising alcohol which causes far more deaths and harm based on the data. ( Deaths related to cannabis use in England and Wales amounted to 26 in 2021. In 2020, 36 cannabis-related deaths were reported, the highest annual amount in the last 25 years. The number of cannabis-related deaths was lowest in 2011,at seven deaths, and since 2014 the annual number of mortalities has remained above twenty. )

William and Kate are clearly moderate drinkers - it is Harry that is often photographed looking bleary snd hungover

@KattyJo google it, there’s photos of Kate and William absolutely blind drunk.

@KattyJo Even relatively low doses of alcohol consumed on a regular basis increase the risk of health issues, including digestive and cardiovascular diseases, traumatic injuries and cancers of the oesophagus, liver and breast; a recent study estimated that almost 750,000 new cancer cases in 2020 were attributable to alcohol use worldwide, including about 100,000 from “moderate drinking”.

Oh, when they were at University or in there early 20s you mean? Shocking!

Meanwhile, Meghan and Harry overindulge in their 40s… it must be taking a terrible toll on their health. I can see why you are concerned

Where is your evidence they over indulge in alcohol? How would you know if W & K did or not. Even regular low intake isn’t good for you.

When did you see H&M overindulging.

The desperation, LMAO. 😂😂😂

Once you’ve known a few problem drinkers, the signs are unmistakable

The desperation, LMAO. 😂😂😂

Touché!

As I said earlier, I lived with an alcoholic and violence so I’m well versed on the dangers and I don’t know what you think you’ve seen as you haven’t shared anything?

Meanwhile… endless photos of royals promoting alcohol, which has as I’ve shown, hugely harmful impacts on society even at low intake levels.

Harry is a great advert for not taking drugs - look how he’s ended up

Glad you brought up Ayahuasca.
That was the basis of Harry's discussion on hallucinogens. Native and South American herbs, used quite regularly, but come from nature not the lab.

Weed is also a natural plant that is used among indigenous people in non-europeans countries for healing and mh. While not as low level as burning sage, however, there are other herbs smoked by native Americans to calm the body and mind and make a person have some clear thoughts and spirit.

Harry was coming from this point of view and what had worked for him. Not glorifying anything.

https://www.notesfromthefrontier.com/post/hallucinogens-native-american-spirituality

Opium also comes from plants 😂😂 are we advocating heroin now?

Alcohol is as natural as you can get! Even an overripe banana is 0.5% ABv