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The royal family

Prince Andrew BACK in the royal fold

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tatalan · 22/03/2023 12:02

How do you feel about this development?

Prince Andrew BACK in the royal fold
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LolaSmiles · 14/04/2023 14:00

Surely not a coincidence when there have been rumblings about him writing his own tell-all.

Even apart from the public being taken for mugs, this just stinks of behind the scenes deals.
I hadn't heard he was going to do a tell all. 🤢

If this is true and he's blackmailing his way back into public light, it's disgusting

Whaeanui · 14/04/2023 14:00

Mending division? Wtf How about he listens to the public on this one? Keep him in your family gatherings but out of site of the public fgs

CathyorClaire · 14/04/2023 14:08

I hadn't heard he was going to do a tell all. 🤢

Recent reports had it so:

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/prince-andrew-memoir-autobiography-us-publisher-jeffrey-epstein-b1070007.html

If this is true and he's blackmailing his way back into public light, it's disgusting

I'm not sure it's blackmail as such but I'm convinced there's been a cosy you-scratch-my-back type deal.

Whaeanui · 14/04/2023 14:09

I just hate this so much

Rockybooboo · 14/04/2023 14:11

Charles was mates with Jimmy Saville and Peter Ball (even iwhen the latter was convicted of raping boys) so he is hardly going to be bothered by Prince Andtew's behaviour x

AskAwayAgain · 14/04/2023 14:12

CathyorClaire · 14/04/2023 14:08

I hadn't heard he was going to do a tell all. 🤢

Recent reports had it so:

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/prince-andrew-memoir-autobiography-us-publisher-jeffrey-epstein-b1070007.html

If this is true and he's blackmailing his way back into public light, it's disgusting

I'm not sure it's blackmail as such but I'm convinced there's been a cosy you-scratch-my-back type deal.

He won't. It is a public threat to make sure Charles keeps giving him money.

LolaSmiles · 14/04/2023 14:15

I'm not sure it's blackmail as such but I'm convinced there's been a cosy you-scratch-my-back type deal
That's enough for me to class it as blackmail. It smacks of "if you don't keep giving me money like the spoilt little brat that I am, I'll tell everyone your secrets".
Vile man.

Whaeanui · 14/04/2023 14:15

Prince Charles told Ball in a letter in February 1995, two years after the bishop had accepted the police caution, which was read to the inquiry: “I wish I could do more. I feel so desperately strongly about the monstrous wrongs that have been done to you and the way you have been treated.”
Charles later arranged for the Duchy of Cornwall to buy a house to be rented by Ball and his identical twin, Michael, also a bishop.
In a six-page statement to the inquiry, Charles said he had been deceived over a long period of time “about the true nature” of Ball’s activities, but denied he had sought to influence the outcome of police investigations. He said he was unsure whether he was told about Ball’s caution until 2009.

Peter Ball

Friendship with Prince Charles made paedophile bishop Peter Ball 'impregnable' | Anglicanism | The Guardian

BBC2 documentary shows how establishment figures rallied round cleric

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/14/friendship-with-prince-charles-made-paedophile-bishop-peter-ball-impregnable

Whaeanui · 14/04/2023 14:15

@Rockybooboo honestly, I thought you might be exaggerating. It’s shocking

StormzyinaTCup · 14/04/2023 14:21

I didn’t think he would write a book, it was just leverage and to have a bit of the spotlight for himself. He also has a ‘spare’ issue.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 14/04/2023 14:25

Rockybooboo · 14/04/2023 14:11

Charles was mates with Jimmy Saville and Peter Ball (even iwhen the latter was convicted of raping boys) so he is hardly going to be bothered by Prince Andtew's behaviour x

Quite Hmm

More to the point, and as I've said so often, Charles may well be in no position to thwart Andrew given the time he's been around and the tales he could probably tell. At least the late Queen had some appearance of moral authority, whereas Charles has practically none

@Whaeanui if you're interested there's a fuller account of the Peter Ball disgrace here - a strange source to link perhaps, but it covers it all pretty well: https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/cornwall-news/prince-charles-criticised-over-misguided-2851797

Prince Charles criticised over ‘misguided’ relationship with paedophile bishop

Peter Ball is the twin brother of the former Bishop of Truro

https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/cornwall-news/prince-charles-criticised-over-misguided-2851797

Whaeanui · 14/04/2023 14:28

@Puzzledandpissedoff thank you, I genuinely didn’t know about this, I’m not British but I live here so some things I’m not aware of. God it’s really bad! Wtf

CathyorClaire · 14/04/2023 14:29

It is a public threat to make sure Charles keeps giving him money.

And doesn't boot him out of Royal Lodge and into Frogmore.

Wonder if he got the BP office back too? Not holding my breath to hear he hasn't.

LolaSmiles · 14/04/2023 14:35

This suggests that Fergie isn't being invited even though she lives with Andrew and people don't live with their ex unless there's something going on. https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/royal-family/king-charles-prince-andrew-mend-b2319690.html

It seems a bit rich to allow Andrew to play Prince for the day whilst not inviting Fergie

This is positive at least:
Charles and Camilla’s coronation is being held at Westminster Abbey in London, with 2,000 guests expected to be in attendance. This comes in stark contrast to the 8,000 guests present at the Queen’s coronation in 1953.

King Charles to ‘mend’ family divisions as Prince Andrew brought in ‘from the cold’

The disgraced Prince Andrew has reportedly ‘refused’ King Charles’s order to leave Royal Lodge

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/royal-family/king-charles-prince-andrew-mend-b2319690.html

Puzzledandpissedoff · 14/04/2023 14:35

You're very welcome, Whaeanui, and at least you didn't say "Oh here we go ..." as someone did the last time I posted it Wink

It honestly beats the hell out of me that some seem not to care that a man like this has assumed the position he has, but I guess there's no accounting for taste

Whaeanui · 14/04/2023 14:45

@Puzzledandpissedoff oh I’m always willing to learn more, this isn’t my country really so there’s stuff I won’t know. I just know my British grandfather left this country hungry as hell and with a burning hatred of the royal family. My Maori mother loves them! Go figure! I think it was Diana to be fair, but we missed her when they came to NZ and got Charles’ side 😬 mum chatted to him actually. Why can’t they just be decent. This stuff is so gross.

AskAwayAgain · 14/04/2023 15:05

"This is positive at least:
Charles and Camilla’s coronation is being held at Westminster Abbey in London, with 2,000 guests expected to be in attendance. This comes in stark contrast to the 8,000 guests present at the Queen’s coronation in 1953."

This is spin. It was 6000 at the Queens coronation. They crammed them into the Abbey on stands. It was a health and safety nightmare and did not meet any current health and safety standards. The 2000 attending is the maximum that can safely be accommodated in the Abbey.

Rockybooboo · 14/04/2023 15:32

Whaeanui · 14/04/2023 14:45

@Puzzledandpissedoff oh I’m always willing to learn more, this isn’t my country really so there’s stuff I won’t know. I just know my British grandfather left this country hungry as hell and with a burning hatred of the royal family. My Maori mother loves them! Go figure! I think it was Diana to be fair, but we missed her when they came to NZ and got Charles’ side 😬 mum chatted to him actually. Why can’t they just be decent. This stuff is so gross.

I feel so sorry for Ball and Saville's victims having to watch their rapist'friends being fawned over.

Whaeanui · 14/04/2023 15:36

So do I, how utterly awful

LolaSmiles · 14/04/2023 15:37

AskAwayAgain
Very interesting. Thank you for the extra information.

I'm still trying my best to find any sense that Charles is going to follow through slimming the monarchy down.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 14/04/2023 15:40

I feel so sorry for Ball and Saville's victims having to watch their rapist'friends being fawned over

A very valid point, Rockybooboo ... but hey, why let feelings for the victims get in the way of adherence to all this? Hmm

CathyorClaire · 14/04/2023 15:45

I'm still trying my best to find any sense that Charles is going to follow through slimming the monarchy down.

We've been lied to about slimming down the monarchy. We've been lied to about how the new queen is to be styled and now it seems we've been lied to about how Andrew is to be be kept under wraps.

Starting to think Charles would be more accurately titled Pinocchio I.

Roussette · 14/04/2023 15:52

Yes, and I said on another thread I had high hopes last September that Charles would stand by his words over the last decade or two.

Slimming down, handing back some royal properties, small coronation...
Obviously ain't happening

I'm disappointed

Roussette · 14/04/2023 15:54

The public have not got the stomach for Andrew so good luck with that, Charles

One thing is sure, it's all made up nonsense that Charles is making him move to Frogmore. It's just spin. Won't happen.

LolaSmiles · 14/04/2023 16:34

We've been lied to about slimming down the monarchy. We've been lied to about how the new queen is to be styled and now it seems we've been lied to about how Andrew is to be be kept under wraps.
To me I couldn't care how Camilla is styled. Queen Consorts have gone by Queen FirstName for generations.
Queen Elizabeth, The Queen Mother, was Queen Elizabeth, not Queen Consort Elizabeth.

Slimming down the monarchy I think could have been possible but the Harry and Meghan family feuding has probably made it difficult. I'd been hoping that Charles would do what some other European monarchs have done and said to children/grandchildren you're not senior royals and don't get HRH unless you're in the direct heir line.

I was hoping we'd have something like only William's children get HRH and there's sibling parity, but then when they have children HRH would only pass to George's children and so on.

It was unlikely to happen with the suggestions in the press where H&M seemed to suggest if their children didn't get the titles they wanted then it was racist and then when Queen Elizabeth died they've made sure the children are both using Prince/Princess. I suspect they played that quite deliberately to make it difficult to have titles removed, and played it well they did.

I don't see how they can rehabilitate Andrew into public life other than allowing him to attend some major events as a family member on an agreement he slips off into the shadows. The public aren't surely going to accept him.

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