Prince Andrew BACK in the royal fold

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How do you feel about this development?

Completely agree! The Media makes out that The Queen was the living protector granny of the nation, but she continued to protect Andrew with the reasoning “that’s her son!”. Like he’s some infant.

I wouldn’t be surprised if she had pretty backwards views about women putting up with shit and ‘boys will be boys’. There’s plenty of rumours about Phil who was pretty much separated from her towards the last few years, yet history is written as they were some historic love story.

The pictures of her and Andrew smiling on their way to Church the day after Epstein suicided was just so gross! It was so orchestrated and obvious.

I’m really disappointed that the Church would even have allowed it that photo op.

I'm not sure the Church can control how people travel to a service?

Well, The Crown (a work of fiction, remember) seems to have convinced a lot of people that Philip was serially unfaithful, but there's absolutely nothing to show that's anything except invented rumours many years later.

Those about the Queen are likely to be just as baseless (though at least they occurred more in step with the events, rather than only surfacing following a particular TV show)

(The Church doesn't "allow" a "photo OP", nor does it control how people arrive).

I don't think there is any sign that Andrew is returning to the fold. Indeed current rumour mill is the opposite, with suggestion that he should move to smaller accommodation (I suspect this won't come to pass). He wasn't seen at the Garter parade, and his presence or otherwise at the private service was wholly unremarked on. He remains an embarrassment, and there's no sign that he'll ever appear other than for the odd really big State events (but no further funerals/coronations likely for a decade or two; and over 24 years until a possible jubilee), and maybe family events, eg if he goes to Sandringham at Christmas, or if there are eg weddings

@BuxFizz
I agree. The enabling and protecting of Andrew for decades (Trade Envoy post, Pitch@ the Palace,) allowed him to carry on for decades with his boorish, backhander, mix with sex offenders and traffickers, barely legal behaviour. And I'm afraid that was down to the Queen.

What he did, has done far more damage to the Monarchy than H&M. Because it is the biggest cover up ever. IF he accepts he will never have a public role again, the cover up will work. If he tries to wheedle his way back in, it will all come crashing back and perhaps posters on MN might be more interested.

At the moment, he is refusing to move out of Royal Lodge that he lives with, with his ex of 27 years, no one seems to worry about that. He needs a big cash injection to pay for upkeep, no idea how that is happening. Of course, the disgraced Andrew needs a £30Million 98 acre mansion to live in, doesn't he...

The Queen just didn’t pop in on a rainy Sunday. It was a planned public visit with tabloid photographers resulting in headlines about how Prince Andrew was the Queen’s “rock” and them gurning away for the cameras the day after Epstein died. It was honestly so disgusting.

I’m really surprised that no one from the Church objected and pointed out that it was a bad look.

If the Church didn’t have any say, I’m surprised that someone as pious and Christian as the Queen would use a Church visit to try to rehabilitate her son.

She was the Head of the Church and should have had a better sense of responsibility and morals.

Saying that, the current Head of the Church protected paedophile Bishop Peter Ball which everyone has seemingly forgotten about, so it’s probably just normal for them!

And Andrew IS in the fold. He’s never left. Still gets to live in a Royal mansion, still has security, still received undisclosed £££ millions to pay off accusers and keep out of the courts, probably still berating maids about his teddy bear collection.

It’s not even a cover up. They accused Virginia of being a prostitute, a temptress, a floozy, the photograph was fake cos his fingers are chubby?

And then when all else failed, they threw money (completely unaccounted for) to protect him and everyone’s talking about the Queen’s friendship with Paddington.

Complete lunacy!

If the Church didn’t have any say, I’m surprised that someone as pious and Christian as the Queen would use a Church visit to try to rehabilitate her son

I would have thought the exact opposite - that it's the perfect place for someone of strong faith to try!!

(And if indeed anyone tipped off the press, I doubt very much it was the late Queen)

I don't think there is any sign that Andrew is returning to the fold.

He's never left the fold.

He's been papped on shooting jollies with Anne and Edward, papped arriving at a pre-coro dinner and most recently papped riding out with Edward.

It's as much of a two fingers at the plebs as Mummy was waving when he rode shotgun with her to church a couple of days after Newsnight.

Suggestions he's being pressured to move out of Royal Lodge and threatened with his allowance being withdrawn to facilitate it are PR puff to make Charles look less weak.

He's got a watertight lease and has been cited as the third richest royal in the past. He's moving nowhere.

Yes, his lawyers remarks about her were so unbelievably awful and it barely got attention here, you'd think that disgusting victim blaming bile would have had 44 articles in a day, not Meghan leaving the house. Its really a stain on this country the way the Queen covered up for him and enabled him. The unaccounted for money is also something that seems to get little attention. He doesn't have it so where did it come from?

It's interesting how close they all still are with him isn't it?

Andrew will not be moving out of his £30million estate any time soon. I have no idea if Charles actually meant it, or was just paying lip service but... now Sarah has had a cancer operation, that has ensured he and his ex wife of 27 years will be residing there for some length of time. Unless it is earmarked for William of course and then moves might be made in time to come.

(I need to add that I have sympathy for Sarah and what she has gone through, a friend of mine had a double masectomy and it took a year to get over)

Andrew has not left the fold but my goodness what he craves is playing dress up and being a star turn at official functions, ceremonies and the like. He has managed that for coronation etc but he wants to be full Admiral as opposed to Rear Admiral and take salutes and stuff. He wants to be prominent.

Hes so odd... why does he want that? He must know the public don't want to see him. Its all very strange, Institutionalised I suppose, does;t know anything else.

Suggestions he's being pressured to move out of Royal Lodge and threatened with his allowance being withdrawn to facilitate it are PR puff to make Charles look less weak

Exactly - though probably not as weak as he'd appear if we knew the full story

And as I've said so often, that could easily be why Andrew's kept onside

Because he is very entitled, a bit of a showman, he relishes lording it all over everyone and being revered.

I started to see the light about him when he arrived back from the Falklands dressed in uniform with a red rose between his teeth. It was so inappropriate, OTT and what a disservice to all the men and women who served in that war when all the attention was on him.

Yes I tend to agree with you on this, horrible thought that it is.

that's it isn't it, extremely entitled and extremely indulged by Mummy.

Entitled and enabled.

I hope not. Vile excuse for a man.

Interesting reports emerging today about his claims on Newsnight that the December 2010 in person break-up contact was the only contact he'd had with Epstein after his jail sentence:

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/emails-expose-prince-andrews-newsnight-30518146

Of course he lied. He will have been in constant contact with JE despite the prison sentence.

You don't fly half way across the world to 'break up with someone' if you have barely spoken since they got out of jail for sex trafficking offences. How could he admit he was in contact with him, after his pathetic 'I'm too honourable' nonsense.

I'm just surprised the story seems to be a bit under the radar ATM.

If only it was possible for someone to get his sorry arse into a courtroom 😡

I had assumed much of it would be lies but he is either a complete idiot for thinking he should or could maintain contact, or he is as dodgy as his friend. Why would anyone want to see him after that? eew

The only surprise would be if anyone believed him in the first place

Apart from anything else Epstein was known to be making gifts to the family, and given Andrew's greed it was hardly likely he'd cut off such a source no matter what he'd done

You don't fly half way across the world to 'break up with someone' if you have barely spoken since they got out of jail for sex trafficking offences.

You're unlikely to be a star guest at a lavish dinner party they're holding either:

https://www.mercurynews.com/2021/03/16/the-night-jeffrey-epstein-hosted-pals-prince-andrew-and-woody-allen-for-dinner/