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The royal family

HRH Prince Archie Harrison 0f Sussex and HRH Princess Lilibet Diana of Sussex

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Price21210 · 11/03/2023 21:03

Will Sussex be their last names? How does that work?

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Theunamedcat · 06/04/2023 13:37

garlicandsapphires · 06/04/2023 11:58

I believe them.

Which them? The ones who kept quiet or the ones who changed their story?

Whaeanui · 06/04/2023 13:38

I believe anybody in his family involved in those conversations were racist. Harry is reluctant to say it and is protecting them. I believe Meghan was subject to racism in the institution, and in this country.

Serenster · 06/04/2023 13:40

Whaeanui · 06/04/2023 13:38

I believe anybody in his family involved in those conversations were racist. Harry is reluctant to say it and is protecting them. I believe Meghan was subject to racism in the institution, and in this country.

Right, so you happily admit that this is a completely imaginary scenario you’ve created in your head, and you base your character assessments on that? That’s certainly a take.

Whaeanui · 06/04/2023 13:42

I believe anybody in his family involved in those conversations were racist.

i did not imagine those conversations, I believe what they said happened and I consider the conversations that happened, to be racist. Mostly because I’ve been the subject of those kinds of conversations myself, as have all my family. Have you?

Puzzledandpissedoff · 06/04/2023 13:46

Harry is reluctant to say it and is protecting them

Or just maybe he's been asked for details of this alleged conversation, and has been forced to back pedal if he couldn't back it up?

I say "maybe" and "if" because for obvious reasons I can't possibly know - but then that's also why I try to avoid confusing opinions and facts

Serenster · 06/04/2023 13:47

That’s called bias, Whaeanui.

notanotheroneagain · 06/04/2023 13:47

People like to take things out of context, hence we find it hard to move forward and solve these issues. Are people actually happy with bigotry?

I would really like to know, what do posters think unconscious bias is, actually?

notanotheroneagain · 06/04/2023 13:49

Puzzledandpissedoff · 06/04/2023 13:46

Harry is reluctant to say it and is protecting them

Or just maybe he's been asked for details of this alleged conversation, and has been forced to back pedal if he couldn't back it up?

I say "maybe" and "if" because for obvious reasons I can't possibly know - but then that's also why I try to avoid confusing opinions and facts

And the the 'royal source' would not tell this victory to the tabloids, because ..?

Whaeanui · 06/04/2023 13:51

I could say the same to any of you who haven’t experienced your skin colour being discussed like this @Serenster you can either listen and learn from people like me, or not.

Whaeanui · 06/04/2023 13:53

Or just maybe he's been asked for details of this alleged conversation, and has been forced to back pedal if he couldn't back it up?

How would he back it up? He didn’t record the conversations. What he said happened, is racism in my opinion.

notanotheroneagain · 06/04/2023 13:59

You surely have been here long enough to know how these 'they lied' were dismantled.

Royal titles aren’t tied to security, so is this just due to ignorance or something else altogether?
And their concerns that their kids wouldn’t be entitled to royal titles because Charles wanted to slim down the monarchy has been proven to be false.

No, they are not, the palace was trying to create new rules specifically for Archie. Hence H&M realised they were because of his race.

all lies, since there are photos of harry as a kid on a bike with his dad, and for someone who is supposedly so traumatised by the flash and click of a camera, how did he manage not to get traumatised walking into the crowd of reporters for his court case? How did he manage it when he walked past a crowd of paparazzi when he went out for dinner with Meghan?

Harry was not referring to a photoshoot. He was talking about real bike rides.
He was traumatised by the British press and knows who they are, and how they would lie about his wife the next day. At least the American paps will just publish the pic without 'insider' info from the palace source - aka, lies.

notanotheroneagain · 06/04/2023 14:01

Whaeanui · 06/04/2023 13:51

I could say the same to any of you who haven’t experienced your skin colour being discussed like this @Serenster you can either listen and learn from people like me, or not.

This is what always blows my mind.
A person of colour tells you, you are being racist, you listen and try to do better next time. How hard is that ?

Whaeanui · 06/04/2023 14:01

so traumatised by the flash and click of a camera, how did he manage not to get traumatised walking into the crowd of reporters for his court case? How did he manage it when he walked past a crowd of paparazzi when he went out for dinner with Meghan?

Well he’s done a lot of public appearances over the years despite the anxiety. But he’s also detailed the therapy that’s helped him overcome his anxiety more recently.

Whaeanui · 06/04/2023 14:03

A person of colour tells you, you are being racist, you listen and try to do better next time. How hard is that?

You would be surprised how hard it is for quite a lot of people, people in my family including my father. I’ve had to deal with it over and over and over again. Even our Maori names, my fathers family laughed at their inability to say it right well into our 20’s. They’re not even that hard to say. They just couldn’t be bothered.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 06/04/2023 19:29

How would he back it up? He didn’t record the conversations. What he said happened, is racism in my opinion

By doing what he's so far refused to do in public - naming the person concerned so they could be questioned. Faced with an accusation of something as hideous as racism, this is exactly what I'd expect the RF to ask him, but as said whether he'd have been able to answer credibly is something we can't know

Cokefans · 06/04/2023 19:34

@Puzzledandpissedoff exactly! I don’t like either of them but if they had given the same account, been specific and named the person responsible that would have been a lot more credible. And if correct, that should have been addressed.

Cokefans · 06/04/2023 19:35

And having concerns and conversations about how dark a baby’s skin may be and what that would mean is not unconscious bias - that’s racist!

Cokefans · 06/04/2023 19:36

As would be denying a title and security based on skin colour

Whaeanui · 06/04/2023 19:37

Well if it was someone not that important maybe they would of. Meghan said it would of been very damaging to the person.

Cokefans · 06/04/2023 19:45

@Whaeanui surely the more important the person (if there is such a thing) the more important to call it out - rather than casting suspicion around the whole family? Their decision but I don’t think that was fair

Whaeanui · 06/04/2023 19:50

I see what you’re saying and I’m undecided. Because what if it was Charles or William? That would be too big a deal to reveal I think. Even if it was Camilla it would be too destructive so better to just say somebody in the family.

Roussette · 06/04/2023 19:51

Whaeanui · 06/04/2023 19:50

I see what you’re saying and I’m undecided. Because what if it was Charles or William? That would be too big a deal to reveal I think. Even if it was Camilla it would be too destructive so better to just say somebody in the family.

I agree with this. My first reaction when I heard about this was .... thank god they didn't name the person if it was very close to home.

jeffgoldblum · 06/04/2023 20:12

But by not naming the person it only led to speculation and blame being associated with the whole family!
Surely that's not fair is it?

jeffgoldblum · 06/04/2023 20:15

Ohh by the way @Whaeanui , another new poster, this time critical of H&M , now posting stirring posts in support of the Nike nonsense!
Something is definitely going on!

Whaeanui · 06/04/2023 20:18

@jeffgoldblum really? Wtf is happening?!