HRH Prince Archie Harrison 0f Sussex and HRH Princess Lilibet Diana of Sussex

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Will Sussex be their last names? How does that work?

Which them? The ones who kept quiet or the ones who changed their story?

I believe anybody in his family involved in those conversations were racist. Harry is reluctant to say it and is protecting them. I believe Meghan was subject to racism in the institution, and in this country.

Right, so you happily admit that this is a completely imaginary scenario you’ve created in your head, and you base your character assessments on that? That’s certainly a take.

I believe anybody in his family involved in those conversations were racist.

i did not imagine those conversations, I believe what they said happened and I consider the conversations that happened, to be racist. Mostly because I’ve been the subject of those kinds of conversations myself, as have all my family. Have you?

Harry is reluctant to say it and is protecting them

Or just maybe he's been asked for details of this alleged conversation, and has been forced to back pedal if he couldn't back it up?

I say "maybe" and "if" because for obvious reasons I can't possibly know - but then that's also why I try to avoid confusing opinions and facts

That’s called bias, Whaeanui.

People like to take things out of context, hence we find it hard to move forward and solve these issues. Are people actually happy with bigotry?

I would really like to know, what do posters think unconscious bias is, actually?

And the the 'royal source' would not tell this victory to the tabloids, because ..?

I could say the same to any of you who haven’t experienced your skin colour being discussed like this @Serenster you can either listen and learn from people like me, or not.

Or just maybe he's been asked for details of this alleged conversation, and has been forced to back pedal if he couldn't back it up?

How would he back it up? He didn’t record the conversations. What he said happened, is racism in my opinion.

You surely have been here long enough to know how these 'they lied' were dismantled.

Royal titles aren’t tied to security, so is this just due to ignorance or something else altogether?
And their concerns that their kids wouldn’t be entitled to royal titles because Charles wanted to slim down the monarchy has been proven to be false.

No, they are not, the palace was trying to create new rules specifically for Archie. Hence H&M realised they were because of his race.

all lies, since there are photos of harry as a kid on a bike with his dad, and for someone who is supposedly so traumatised by the flash and click of a camera, how did he manage not to get traumatised walking into the crowd of reporters for his court case? How did he manage it when he walked past a crowd of paparazzi when he went out for dinner with Meghan?

Harry was not referring to a photoshoot. He was talking about real bike rides.
He was traumatised by the British press and knows who they are, and how they would lie about his wife the next day. At least the American paps will just publish the pic without 'insider' info from the palace source - aka, lies.

This is what always blows my mind.
A person of colour tells you, you are being racist, you listen and try to do better next time. How hard is that ?

so traumatised by the flash and click of a camera, how did he manage not to get traumatised walking into the crowd of reporters for his court case? How did he manage it when he walked past a crowd of paparazzi when he went out for dinner with Meghan?

Well he’s done a lot of public appearances over the years despite the anxiety. But he’s also detailed the therapy that’s helped him overcome his anxiety more recently.

A person of colour tells you, you are being racist, you listen and try to do better next time. How hard is that?

You would be surprised how hard it is for quite a lot of people, people in my family including my father. I’ve had to deal with it over and over and over again. Even our Maori names, my fathers family laughed at their inability to say it right well into our 20’s. They’re not even that hard to say. They just couldn’t be bothered.

How would he back it up? He didn’t record the conversations. What he said happened, is racism in my opinion

By doing what he's so far refused to do in public - naming the person concerned so they could be questioned. Faced with an accusation of something as hideous as racism, this is exactly what I'd expect the RF to ask him, but as said whether he'd have been able to answer credibly is something we can't know

@Puzzledandpissedoff exactly! I don’t like either of them but if they had given the same account, been specific and named the person responsible that would have been a lot more credible. And if correct, that should have been addressed.

And having concerns and conversations about how dark a baby’s skin may be and what that would mean is not unconscious bias - that’s racist!

As would be denying a title and security based on skin colour

Well if it was someone not that important maybe they would of. Meghan said it would of been very damaging to the person.

@Whaeanui surely the more important the person (if there is such a thing) the more important to call it out - rather than casting suspicion around the whole family? Their decision but I don’t think that was fair

I see what you’re saying and I’m undecided. Because what if it was Charles or William? That would be too big a deal to reveal I think. Even if it was Camilla it would be too destructive so better to just say somebody in the family.

I agree with this. My first reaction when I heard about this was .... thank god they didn't name the person if it was very close to home.

But by not naming the person it only led to speculation and blame being associated with the whole family!
Surely that's not fair is it?

Ohh by the way @Whaeanui , another new poster, this time critical of H&M , now posting stirring posts in support of the Nike nonsense!
Something is definitely going on!

@jeffgoldblum really? Wtf is happening?!