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Markle v Markle

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AliceOlive · 16/02/2023 15:50

Has anyone posted about this hearing to dismiss yesterday?

Ellie Hall of Buzzfeed was tweeting. twitter.com/ellievhall/status/1625944386382008346

My opinion? Samantha is an ass who purposely humiliated Meghan, every chance she got. I hope they throw out the case and reprimand Samantha+ her attorney for being grifters and wasting the court's time.

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AliceOlive · 04/03/2023 20:14

Wow. Also, do the family actually refer to her as “Fergie”? Meghan did on Netflix.

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MarshaMelrose · 04/03/2023 20:28

AliceOlive · 04/03/2023 19:06

Thank you @MarshaMelrose where I live it feels impossible to speak openly about the things you have written. No one cares. They white wash it or completely ignore.

There's so much to wonder about over the Hunter - Joe Biden business affairs. Hunter tells,so many lies, it's hard to figure your way through it all. I don't know if they'll ever get a case to stick against him.
I don't really go in for commenting on family members of politicians because politicians aren't responsible for the actions of other adults. But when people make out that Hunter is a just a hapless bystander in his own life and we should feel sorry for him, I find that a bit much. He's a totally unpleasant individual who behaves without respect or consideration to those around him despite the huge privileges he's received.

The media in the US went after Trump's family in a big way, even implying that he had an incestuous relationship with Ivanka, but it seems when it's a different political party, it's different rules. Surely all presidents and their families should be treated equally, regardless of where your politics lie.

AliceOlive · 04/03/2023 20:36

@MarshaMelrose I am afraid we have come to a time where very few respectable people would run for office in the US due to how they are treated. Mitt Romney comes to mind. I never liked him much politically but thought he was made a complete laughing stock. Ditto GWB.

We can’t talk about Biden or his family realistically. Can’t talk about what’s really happening with John Fetterman, either.

and so we end up with someone insane , nasty and corrupt like Trump running against someone in cognitive decline with a very dicey family like Biden. These are not good choices!

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MarshaMelrose · 04/03/2023 20:58

@AliceOlive

I think social media is the big problem. No human being can ever live the perfect life expected by keyboard warriors who live a far from perfect life themselves. It seems like any transgression is made into something huge, and exaggerations and lies are manufactured and repeated as truths. You really need to have such extraordinary self-esteem and the hide of a rhino to withstand the pressure. Eventually, we'll just end up with a stream of Trumps that just don't care what people say about them.

BethDuttonsTwin · 04/03/2023 21:06

MarshaMelrose · 04/03/2023 20:58

@AliceOlive

I think social media is the big problem. No human being can ever live the perfect life expected by keyboard warriors who live a far from perfect life themselves. It seems like any transgression is made into something huge, and exaggerations and lies are manufactured and repeated as truths. You really need to have such extraordinary self-esteem and the hide of a rhino to withstand the pressure. Eventually, we'll just end up with a stream of Trumps that just don't care what people say about them.

Agree. I’m worried that we will end up with far worse than Trump though. Constant, toxic, unrealistic demands for perfection can only ever end with good, mentally healthy people giving up trying to do right and leaving the frame. Once that happens who is left? Or who takes sees the chance for advantage and seizes the power…?

AliceOlive · 04/03/2023 21:12

Agree with everything you’ve both written. But I think it started long before SM and we are already in the position of no healthy, honest people wanting to engage.

The two party system is not working. The wolves are running the henhouse. These folks will never pass campaign finance reform, never create term limits. I just don’t see how things get better from here.

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Howsimplywonderful · 04/03/2023 21:55

a lot of people trace the animosity back to Newt Gingrich and his toxic politics

MarshaMelrose · 31/03/2023 03:52

Quite right, too. It was a ridiculous lawsuit.

notanotheroneagain · 31/03/2023 08:48

I wonder who's funding her. She has 14 days to contest the Oprah bit, but not the finding freedom one.

She'll have to pay for MM legal fees too. Surely, she will be useless to the press now, especially as it's clear as day she has not seen MM in ages.

Her own evidence worked against her and the judge basically saying get out of here with your bogus claims.

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PlanetLuna · 31/03/2023 09:57

notanotheroneagain · 31/03/2023 08:48

I wonder who's funding her. She has 14 days to contest the Oprah bit, but not the finding freedom one.

She'll have to pay for MM legal fees too. Surely, she will be useless to the press now, especially as it's clear as day she has not seen MM in ages.

Her own evidence worked against her and the judge basically saying get out of here with your bogus claims.

Undoubtedly Samantha’s bogus lawsuits are being funded by tabloids. Probably one or more being sued by Prince Harry. They are unaccountable and have very deep pockets. Had the discovery process gone ahead, it would’ve been a treasure trove of endless 🦇💩 clickbait tabloid headline distortions against Dutchess Meghan.

It would be nice if the judge would compel disclosure of who’s funding this toxic and wasteful witch hunt.

Interestingly, I read that Samantha was proven to be ground zero of an extensive, elaborate social media campaign against Meghan, ongoing since 2016. She helped create, then amplified and legitimised the unprecedented, unwarranted, and deliberate hate and bullying of MM. Especially the racist, crazy birther conspiracies. And that’s why, after years of this abuse, Meghan chose to finally defend herself against Samantha’s relentless harassment.

Samantha also used to refer to Meghan’s Black mother as “the maid”.

Samantha is scum. I’m glad her bogus lawsuit was dismissed.

PlanetLuna · 31/03/2023 10:00

And that’s why, after years of this abuse, Meghan chose to finally defend herself against Samantha’s relentless harassment.

In the Oprah interview.

Meghan only mentioned it because Samantha’s bullying had been ongoing for years by that point. And many people in the UK were choosing to believe SM’s lies.

michaelmacrae · 31/03/2023 11:23

Glad to hear this. I don't understand why Samantha was suing Meghan for Finding Freedom, and not the actual author/publisher of the book? Sounds like Sam wanted to get at Meghan any way she could, but why did her lawyers go ahead with that? It's ridiculous and was rightly dismissed.

michaelmacrae · 31/03/2023 11:27

Interestingly, I read that Samantha was proven to be ground zero of an extensive, elaborate social media campaign against Meghan, ongoing since 2016. She helped create, then amplified and legitimised the unprecedented, unwarranted, and deliberate hate and bullying of MM. Especially the racist, crazy birther conspiracies.

Yes, I've read something about this too.Why doesn't Meghan just disown the Markles completely, I bloody would.

purpledalmation · 01/04/2023 09:08

PlanetLuna · 31/03/2023 10:00

And that’s why, after years of this abuse, Meghan chose to finally defend herself against Samantha’s relentless harassment.

In the Oprah interview.

Meghan only mentioned it because Samantha’s bullying had been ongoing for years by that point. And many people in the UK were choosing to believe SM’s lies.

But Meghan did lie about Samantha. They clearly didn't like each other and both are deeply unpleasant people, but this civil case was frivolous and weak. Meghan however has better lawyers and and clout.

purpledalmation · 01/04/2023 09:15

@michaelmacrae Well she only speaks to Samantha's daughter, so she's excluded virtually all the markles and all her mothers side of the family apart from her mother. That's pretty good going.

PreparationPreparationPrep · 01/04/2023 10:39

Whoever is financially backing SM clearly don't have her interest at heart. She is being used to discredit Meghan.

Samantha would not have gone ahead if she was paying from her own pocket so from her point of view at least financially she had nothing to lose.

I believe she will be back with something else but at some point her funders will be exposed.

notanotheroneagain · 01/04/2023 10:46

michaelmacrae · 31/03/2023 11:27

Interestingly, I read that Samantha was proven to be ground zero of an extensive, elaborate social media campaign against Meghan, ongoing since 2016. She helped create, then amplified and legitimised the unprecedented, unwarranted, and deliberate hate and bullying of MM. Especially the racist, crazy birther conspiracies.

Yes, I've read something about this too.Why doesn't Meghan just disown the Markles completely, I bloody would.

Just said this on the other thread.

Samantha has been proven by a data analyst company to drive multiple accounts on MM trolling. Some, they managed to shut down.

And I agree with posters, someone has to be funding her for all this.

MarshaMelrose · 01/04/2023 12:28

Samantha has been proven by a data analyst company to drive multiple accounts on MM trolling.

Which data company? Not Christopher Bouzy's? The guy who has had his data proven untrue.

PlanetLuna · 01/04/2023 13:03

MarshaMelrose · 01/04/2023 12:28

Samantha has been proven by a data analyst company to drive multiple accounts on MM trolling.

Which data company? Not Christopher Bouzy's? The guy who has had his data proven untrue.

Not just him. It’s been proven by others as well.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/amphtml/ellievhall/meghan-markles-biggest-troll-is-her-half-sister-samantha

Meghan Markle’s Biggest Troll Is Her Half-Sister Samantha

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/amphtml/ellievhall/meghan-markles-biggest-troll-is-her-half-sister-samantha

PlanetLuna · 01/04/2023 13:13

purpledalmation · 01/04/2023 09:08

But Meghan did lie about Samantha. They clearly didn't like each other and both are deeply unpleasant people, but this civil case was frivolous and weak. Meghan however has better lawyers and and clout.

But Meghan did lie about Samantha.

Did she? What lie about Samantha?

The judge ruled Meghan didn’t lie as claimed by Samantha, so I assume you’re not referring to that?

"As a reasonable listener would understand it, [Meghan Markle] merely expresses an opinion about her childhood and her relationship with her half-siblings," Honeywell wrote in the order. "Thus, the Court finds that Defendant's statement is not objectively verifiable or subject to empirical proof. Plaintiff cannot plausibly disprove Defendant's opinion of her own childhood."
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/meghan-markle-defamation-lawsuit-dismissed-half-sister-samantha/

Meghan Markle wins defamation lawsuit filed by half-sister

The lawsuit said the royal made "false and malicious statements" in her 2021 Oprah Winfrey interview and elsewhere.

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/meghan-markle-defamation-lawsuit-dismissed-half-sister-samantha/

googlejourney · 01/04/2023 13:22

I think Meghan and Samantha are as bad as each other.

Meghan cut her family out when she realised they didn't fit the image she wanted for herself, she was particularly ruthless with her elderly dad who, by all accounts, spoilt her rotten and doted in her growing up.

On the other hand Samantha didn't appear to be proud of Megan's success or happy when she married well, just bitter and jealous and wanted to personally benefit some way.

I think if the roles were reversed and Samantha was the duster with all the beauty and success, the outcome would be the exactly same.

MarshaMelrose · 01/04/2023 13:51

PlanetLuna · 01/04/2023 13:03

"Buzzfed News analysis". Thats not an analysis company. That's just Buzzfeed looking at tweets. It's full of apparently and suggests. There's nothing proven. It has no tangible evidence or statistics provided. It says SM apparently has various accounts. So they're not even certain of that. And if she does, that could be 3. Lots of people have more than one account on Twitter. All they say for certain is that she's said nasty things about MM from her own account. Well, that's a shocker. Buzzfeed at its best!

MarshaMelrose · 01/04/2023 13:53

notanotheroneagain · 01/04/2023 10:46

Just said this on the other thread.

Samantha has been proven by a data analyst company to drive multiple accounts on MM trolling. Some, they managed to shut down.

And I agree with posters, someone has to be funding her for all this.

What data analyst company?

michaelmacrae · 01/04/2023 13:55

Meghan cut her family out when she realised they didn't fit the image she wanted for herself

That's rather unfair...

On the other hand Samantha didn't appear to be proud of Megan's success or happy when she married well, just bitter and jealous and wanted to personally benefit some way.

Perhaps this is the reason?

As for her Dad he also seemed to want to cash in on her too. So no wonder she cut them out. Bear in mind, we don't know all the things that was said between them behind the scenes leading up to the situation. And parents who pay for private school don't automatically = good parents. Perhaps he is toxic in other ways. We don't know ALL the actual reasons she cut him out.