How posh are the Middleton's?

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Just that! The children have married really well!

Same, I think Carole's great! The family as a whole have been a wonderful asset to the rf & haven't put a foot wrong.

they're upper middle class I suppose with an ace in the pack usp that their grandson is the future king of england. pippa's husband is also upper middle class too, his dad having come from working class background. I'm sure their social circle features a lot of true toffs, whose family names appear in Burke's Peerage, and no doubt there are disgruntled sorts among them who think both the Middletons and Matthews are terribly vulgar and nouveau.

I'd love to know how they did it the aristo circle is notoriously difficult to break into.. The Middleton kids must have been raised to have great confidence & social skills

Wow, the attitudes on this thread reveal so much about why the UK seems destined to remain some kind of archaic backwater.

Only literally "handfuls" of people seem to qualify as worthy of being "upper class".

Ridiculous that some people feel superiority effortlessly glides down the generations from one of their ancestors.

Also thinking that this status over-rides people who have achieved stuff on their own merits in a couple of generations.

I'm imagining bitter and twisted ex-aristos sitting in country piles they can't afford lamenting the Middleton's lack of hereditary peerage. 🤣

Shame we didn't have a revolution like the French and be done with all this nonsense.

How on earth can this reconcile with any sort of racial equality if it automatically excludes everyone who wasn't already favoured by 1066? It's hideous.

I completely agree. Such a distorted set of values and a real lack of critical thinking. Why is it more laudable to be aristocratic or UMC? Of course it isn't. What a strange thing to value and almost worship.

Well said!

Someone even said on here that Carole Middleton is as common as muck! What on earth is wrong with people.

Who cares about what CLASS anyone is. Whether you are a nice caring person is what matters.

Class is so ingrained in this country, its very weird and odd. Old money, new money, what bollocks

Kate caught William's eye and then moulded herself into the perfect gf. She is very compliant and knows which side her bread is buttered. She put up with being dumped, being cheated on and has kept quiet. Pippa's husband is rich but his family aren't particularly upper class. They are self made. His brother is that reality star Spencer who is with the Irish model who was with Brian McFadden who was married to Kerry Katona. These are not the aristocracy 🤣

Kate caught William's eye and then moulded herself into the perfect gf. She is very compliant and knows which side her bread is buttered. She put up with being dumped, being cheated on and has kept quiet

Or maybe none of this is true.

'Most of us have some distant relative with a title.'

Do you actually believe that?! 😆

@RichardsGear yep. If you go back fair enough everyone has someone famous, infamous,royal, aristocratic connected to them

I think the key to the Middletons social status is simple tactical ambition. Carole Middleton has pulled off a Thomas Cromwell style ascent up the class system. To be from her background and now the mother in law of the heir to the throne is an impressive climb. That doesn't happen by accident. The most important decision is the school the daughters went to. Maybe the son as well. Which means they were spending around 100k a year on secondary school for the three kids for a long time. And the keeping up with house, cars, holidays, clothes, hobbies, sport, music lessons. Then KM goes to St Andrew's to study History of Art. A very posh uni I think and a degree that seems to be full of the children of the wealthy and the establishment. It's a very acceptable degree in such circles. Then William chooses that uni - maybe a coincidence? But nevertheless the Middletons are class ninjas. I have to respect their focus. I think Carole Middleton is an ass kicker. I would love to listen to her private thoughts on The Duchess of Sussex.

Most of us have some distant relative with a title

Well there were those lords of the manor impregnating the local lasses but I think they’ll have struggled to get through the entire village.

You called……😂

Just to add I think it's very funny that the Middleton gene pool is so robust that the children look just like the Middleton grandparents and not at all like the long faced windsors

Pretty sure the local Waitrose they frequent is the one in thatcham… which happens to be my local Waitrose! Will report on any sightings.

lots of 'spotted in Waitrose' anecdotes in this thread. Not all of them flattering...

www.mumsnet.com/talk/the_royal_family/4716655-has-anyone-actually-met-kate-pippa-or-the-middletons

Oh I don’t know - some of them seem to have tried pretty hard!

This. They simply did well with their business which allowed them to send their children to the top private schools in the country. If Kate never met William I doubt any of them would have got much further in life but Kate opened the door for the rest of her family. They are very much “new money” rather than “posh”.

The irony of this comment is everything.

FFS, OP. Lose the apostrophe on a plural.

I thought that was just Williams friends (possibly once they had left school) and it made them sound like completely stuck up arses.

I don't think all the commentary about class is necessarily judging, just remarking. The class system in the UK is no doubt archaic and a curiosity to many. Not sure it's all that covetable to be part of it anymore.

One word is missing. I assume you mean - How posh are the Middleton's dogs? I don't think dogs have classes. They have puppy schools though and most of the dogs owned by the Middletons, that I have seen, look extremely well trained.

British Class is very strange. The further we go the further away from wealth a lot of the aristocracy are. And more and more truly wealthy people are self made. 'New money' is a weird way of saying 'self made'. Only in the UK is there any sort of negative connotation. Everywhere else, being self made is a massive credit to the person.

Eventually will we get to the point where the aristocracy and upper classes will be a small handful of wealthy land owners, loads of titled but scrabbling about poor people whose dc don't do anything of note and a whole swathe of a truly wealthy educated class.

It wasn't long ago Britain was made up of a few wealthy families. All the politicians stem from wealth somehow.