How posh are the Middleton's?

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Just that! The children have married really well!

James is a great advocate. I follow him on insta, love his dogs & his devotion to them.

Agree wholeheartedly. Never understand why people worship a very ordinary family. I like the description of the royal family as state funded Kardashians.

Agree. And even on this thread people are rushing to prove how they are somehow 'in the know' about certain (entirely made up and silly) signifiers that they believe elevate them up the social spectrum

Criticising Kate for roller skating. Or splitting hairs about the words posh/smart. Meanwhile the royal family that is seen as so " aspirational" includes sex offenders and bullies

We wouldn't say either, because we don't really talk about it. "Smart" is American for "clever", so far as I'm aware.

Yes, 'posh' is definitely a commoner's word and 'smart' is the toff's equivalent.

And "idiot" is the word for anyone who thinks you are somehow better or worse depending on which descriptor you use

ok, babes.

I shop at waitress, guess that makes me posh too then

Oh epic typo fail meant waitrose

I wonder why some women on MN fawn over them , they haven't achieved much with their lives independently . Just staying thin , marrying rich men getting pregnant it's like something from the Victorian age. I wonder if Carole pushed her girls to do that , I wouldn't want that for my DD. It's pushing women's liberation back..

I dislike MM but at least she has independent worked and grafted. The Middleton sisters have done nothing , so old fashioned.

Then those people had no class.

I don't know Carole Middleton in case you think I'm defending her. But she behaves respectfully. Calling her as 'common as muck' says far more about you than it does about her.

@AreBearsCatholic - I believe that vulgar phrase came from William's circle.

He did go to university & he was a flight dispatcher. Basic details.

I was reading recently about how Carole set up Party Pieces after the choice of party plates in Woolworth's for Kate's 5th birthday party was rubbish. I hadn't realised she was still so active in the company, which I think she manages in an admirably low-profile way.

She's the original "Mumtrepreneur" and I really admire her. I'd love to chat about kids' parties and business with her.

It's quite possible that Carole, having evolved to where her family now is, may now be a horrendous sneering sooty snob.
That can happen I imagine. Not saying she is but she might be. She may feel she's earned the right to look down on us - the great unwashed.

My grandmother had a very disadvantaged start and married what used to be called "well". She never felt comfortable with her sisters in law who she felt judged her. She was desperate for perfection in everything so no one would judge her. But she managed to work hard at her job and also marry out of poverty and insecurity. This is how it's always been for a majority of young women in most of the world. Female financial independence hasn't been going on for very long in historical terms has it?

Snooty not sooty like up a chimney

But aren't snobs the ones who haven't quite achieved the wild social climb they dreamed of? She has cemented her position. She is the mum of the future queen.

MN likes to make the social distinction between use of “smart” and “posh”, but it doesn’t exist. Some of the poshest people I know use the word “posh”, either to poke fun at themselves and their family, or when gossiping about someone even posher.

The Middletons are first generation upper middle class, and it’s a well-worn ladder. A beautiful, well-educated and charming daughter or two has always been currency for the self-made. The historian Amanda Vickery has even written a book on the subject, called The Gentleman’s Daughter.

I don’t think they’re posh at all. A fundamental of the middle (and increasingly upper nowadays) is working hard to achieve. Not of the offspring have done this. For three of them to not have had careers (or even proper jobs) is baffling.

KM isn't actually the future Queen but Queen Consort there is a big difference between the two. One is a birth right the other is a position that she married into and would be taken away instantly if a divorce was to take place.