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"Kate's Rebranding Masterclass May Finally See off Meghan"

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MrsMaxDeWinter · 08/02/2023 14:13

"Five months since she moved up to the second tier of the monarchy, the Princess has started beefing up her top team to make sure she succeeds not only with her “life’s work” on child development, but also with the task of besting Meghan Markle."

Why does Meghan have to look bad for Kate to look good? Why does Meghan need to be bested or seen off? Why is it a competition?

archive.ph/2023.02.08-070754/www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2023/02/08/kates-rebranding-masterclass-may-finally-see-meghan/

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Novella4 · 10/02/2023 12:21

@Roussette

This topic on mumsnet does not represent the reality of how 'royals ' are viewed in the UK
Unless the royalists here are 65/70 plus which the only remaining demographic which has a majority in support of 'royals ' .

A man was holding up a blank sheet of paper at a W an K walkabout yesterday. A blank sheet - and the police removed him
One man ( it was a tiny crowd - must have been kept quiet) prepared to demonstrate represents many others who feel the same but can't or won't risk arrest .

It will be invite only soon to keep up appearances

SiobhanSharpe · 10/02/2023 12:22

Come on, it's the Telegraph, they absolutely hate Harry and Meghan with the same kind of passion often seen on here. And they adore Wills and Katherine.

Serenster · 10/02/2023 12:23

Kate does use Botox already though - it’s quite obvious that she stops when she is pregnant, and suddenly wrinkles appear on her forehead! And she has quite an over-arched eyebrow at times, which I gather is also a common side effect.

notanotheroneagain · 10/02/2023 12:26

Serenster · 10/02/2023 11:48

SR in Canada could have achieved a lot. The palace fumbled the bag with this one

Actually, I think the trajectory of Meghan and Harry post January 2020 - which clearly was never to remain in Canada, by the way - has underscored how right the Palace were to take the position they did. I don’t expect you to agree, though!

Surprisingly, I do agree that in the end the cut off worked out better for H&M.

Not for the palace though.

The palace would have had control over SR when in Canada under HMQE flag. There would be no interviews/books etc. Nothing. But, they seem to have hated the idea that H&M would not be able to be briefed on, since the palace source would not see what is going on over in Canada.

While in Canada, H&M would have carried on with their proactive projects of cookbooks/clothes capsules etc. That would have meant everyone in the palace would be benefiting from the world view of : 'oh look, how proactive those royals are'. Hopefully, the rest of the royals would be doing the same over here.

Can you tell me why K&W went empty handed to the food bank instead of showing people 'look, every little helps' by bringing a few items from her pantry (ok, her staff would need to cover the Harrods label😂), but that would show, you can donate something humble, you don't have to be rich. She could have even made a little comment along those lines, instead of asking if you can smell something or the other.

It was made clear that the unhappy staff where at KP - W is the boss there. This was due to too much work with few staff, rather than anyone being abused.

The KP staff seem to be the ones who were 'split into two camps' as a staff member says. It seems the happy ones moved to SR. Those staff seemed quite happy, some moved to Archewell/Travelyst etc. when SR closed down. They are the ones who had some kind of icecream party. None of the SR staff found her to be a bully. Only JK made such a claim.

Roussette · 10/02/2023 12:26

purpledalmation · 10/02/2023 12:21

not spiteful at all. She is beautiful, but I think at 40 she can look a little stressed. Botox isn't a culture, its no different than mascara and lipstick to many woman. she is very thin and after 40 its your figure or your face.

I used the word subtle because used well its not even noticeable, except you look fresher and less tired.

I'm old so botox passed me by, that's probably why I don't get it.

I do understand about the face versus body. More than a decade or so ago, I lost 5 stone. My face looked like shit and I looked 10 years older! I got too thin and it showed in my face.

Please don't roast me for this but.... she probably is using botox. But not being an expert on it, I don't know.

If Kate needs botox, I need polyfilla and a trowel is all I'm saying!

Rhondaa · 10/02/2023 12:27

'I'm amused folk on here are still knocking her, given she hasn't been seen since the beginning of December. It's like a drug to some, a drug they can't give up.
Wake up. Post shit about Meghan. Rinse and repeat'

She is married to Harold. He has just released a revolting tell all, now I think she may have encouraged that unedifying blabbing, they are but 2 cheeks of the same arse. They starred in a grubby reality show, again breaching other people's privacy while in the next breath wanging on that their privacy have been breached.

No one is 'posting shit' about the Markles, rather critiquing their ridiculous and hypocritical behaviour.

Roussette · 10/02/2023 12:28

Serenster · 10/02/2023 12:23

Kate does use Botox already though - it’s quite obvious that she stops when she is pregnant, and suddenly wrinkles appear on her forehead! And she has quite an over-arched eyebrow at times, which I gather is also a common side effect.

Right. I wondered.

However, if I had posted that on here I would be completely and utterly flamed. And it would've been brought up years from now about me 'sticking the boot into Kate'.

Lucky you getting away with that comment!

Coxspurplepippin · 10/02/2023 12:29

'This topic on mumsnet does not represent the reality of how 'royals ' are viewed in the UK
Unless the royalists here are 65/70 plus which the only remaining demographic which has a majority in support of 'royals ' .'

But overall over 60% of the population seem to be happy with a monarchy. Perhaps people, as they age, recognise the plusses of stability, longevity, tradition etc.

It's odd, Mumsnet being overall a more left leaning site, that there does seem to be quite a bit of support for maintaining the monarchy. Perhaps the monarchy is viewed in a more positive way generally than you hope think.

Serenster · 10/02/2023 12:31

I don’t see using Botox as a moral failing! 😀 And considering the ridiculous amount of criticism royal women get for daring to look their age, I don’t in the slightest blamle any of them for undergoing treatments. I could wish more of them looked happy to age naturally as Queen Maria of the Netherlands gives the impression she is doing (anything she uses is very, very subtle) but I don’t blame them at all.

Serenster · 10/02/2023 12:33

Honestly, I have the most aggressive autocorrect in the world it seems. Queen Maxima of the Netherlands! 🙄

Coxspurplepippin · 10/02/2023 12:34

'It was made clear that the unhappy staff where at KP - W is the boss there. This was due to too much work with few staff, rather than anyone being abused.
The KP staff seem to be the ones who were 'split into two camps' as a staff member says. It seems the happy ones moved to SR'

I think it's pretty well documented that William and Kate's staff were the happiest of the senior royal households.

As far as them going empty handed to a food bank, you have absolutely no idea that was the case, do you?

Roussette · 10/02/2023 12:35

Rhondaa · 10/02/2023 12:27

'I'm amused folk on here are still knocking her, given she hasn't been seen since the beginning of December. It's like a drug to some, a drug they can't give up.
Wake up. Post shit about Meghan. Rinse and repeat'

She is married to Harold. He has just released a revolting tell all, now I think she may have encouraged that unedifying blabbing, they are but 2 cheeks of the same arse. They starred in a grubby reality show, again breaching other people's privacy while in the next breath wanging on that their privacy have been breached.

No one is 'posting shit' about the Markles, rather critiquing their ridiculous and hypocritical behaviour.

I've missed your 'wanging'. You're the only one that uses that word that I've seen. 😂

Yes, people do post shit about Harry & Meghan.

Ohnonevermind · 10/02/2023 12:36

does anyone remember the book based on George Bush jnr’s wife, I just can’t remember the name Once he was serious about running she was told to get a facelift to look fresh for the campaign. Appearances matter unfortunately sometimes too much

MrsMaxDeWinter · 10/02/2023 12:41

Ohnonevermind · 10/02/2023 12:20

@MrsMaxDeWinter

And some of the posters agreeing with you have speculated on William and Kate’s marriage and them splitting - so pot calling the kettle and all of that ….

Uh huh. I believe you.

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notanotheroneagain · 10/02/2023 12:41

Samcro · 10/02/2023 11:57

because anything that is not seen as gushing about Kate is controversial. the same people who bash Meghan for the slightest thing(omg can you imagine if she had continued acting!!) get very upset if someone sounds even a little bit not a no 1 fan of Kate.

We can't even count the number of vile names that have been assigned to H&M.

Roussette · 10/02/2023 12:45

notanotheroneagain · 10/02/2023 12:41

We can't even count the number of vile names that have been assigned to H&M.

Yep. And right from their engagement.

(Cue posters saying... I really liked her, I was so excited when she joined the RF, I just went off her. Yep, there will be many posters in that category, I don't deny that.
But there were an awful lot who disliked her the minute she turned up. That is corroborated by threads from back then)

Rhondaa · 10/02/2023 12:47

'Yes, people do post shit about Harry & Meghan.'

Bevause of their ridiculous behaviour, they deserve all the shit aka criticism. Starting from 'we demand Sussex Royal USA' to his god awful book about 'not hot' women with crooked spines and William's circumcised penis. The rf had a lucky escape giving them the boot.

notanotheroneagain · 10/02/2023 12:48

Serenster · 10/02/2023 12:18

You have two CEOs at Archewell - H&M

You just make this up, don”t you! 🤣.

Harry and Meghan are the founders of Archewell. This does not make either of them the CEO.

I am also hugely amused that you are holding Archewell up as some kind of model for cconstant change among its senior leadership. Most recently, Mandana Dayani was its President. She recently left though. Now, we are told, Shauna Nep and James Holt are “co-executive directors”. Scope and oversight completely unknown.

(I don’t know about you, but if I was going o donate my hard-earned money for a foundation, I’d at least like to know its governance!).

You can be as pedantic as you want. H&M are the big bosses - does that somehow sound better than titles of CEO? They are very much involved. In fact, you can call them the 'face' of Archewell.

Mandana was on their Netflix series, and has posted on SM about them as friends. She is also featured on Archewell as a dear friend when she left.

(You do not donate your hard earned money to this foundation, because they don't take money from plebs, just link you to a charity ,from which you can look at background and choose if you donate or not !)

Roussette · 10/02/2023 12:50

Rhondaa · 10/02/2023 12:47

'Yes, people do post shit about Harry & Meghan.'

Bevause of their ridiculous behaviour, they deserve all the shit aka criticism. Starting from 'we demand Sussex Royal USA' to his god awful book about 'not hot' women with crooked spines and William's circumcised penis. The rf had a lucky escape giving them the boot.

See my previious post. People were posting shit about her from the minute she and Harry got engaged back in 2017.

Did she deserve that? Awful if you think so.

There's a corker of a thread from back then, the day after their engagement if I remember correctly. Thread title "I'm fucking sick of Harry & Meghan already". Some horrible vile posts on it.

Did they deserve that shit?

notanotheroneagain · 10/02/2023 12:51

Roussette · 10/02/2023 12:45

Yep. And right from their engagement.

(Cue posters saying... I really liked her, I was so excited when she joined the RF, I just went off her. Yep, there will be many posters in that category, I don't deny that.
But there were an awful lot who disliked her the minute she turned up. That is corroborated by threads from back then)

Hahaha, so welcome as a breath of fresh air, that H had to write a statement telling everyone to leave her alone with the racial undertones. 😂

Serenster · 10/02/2023 12:52

That’s acceptable shit isn’t it, from anti-monarchists/republicans though? Same as the rest of the them get all the time? If the others deserve it, why should Meghan and Harry be any different?

Rhondaa · 10/02/2023 12:55

'Did they deserve that shit?'

Did Pat the 'not hot women' with a crooked spine deserve that shit? Did Willy deserve the state of his penis to be discussed publicly? Did the Rf deserve to be called racists for 2 yrs for Harold ro then lie/backtrack and say we didn't say that silly! That's was the evil UK media!

The Markles can dish it out but just cannot take it.

Roussette · 10/02/2023 12:56

Serenster · 10/02/2023 12:52

That’s acceptable shit isn’t it, from anti-monarchists/republicans though? Same as the rest of the them get all the time? If the others deserve it, why should Meghan and Harry be any different?

No, not acceptable. And not the same, not from me anyway. I criticise the institution, yes. But I would not say the most revolting names and slurs and personal disgusting insults about any member of the RF.

There are two posts that stick in my mind about Meghan round about the engagement. I would relate them here but to be honest they are too revolting.

No wonder they left.

Roussette · 10/02/2023 12:57

Rhondaa · 10/02/2023 12:55

'Did they deserve that shit?'

Did Pat the 'not hot women' with a crooked spine deserve that shit? Did Willy deserve the state of his penis to be discussed publicly? Did the Rf deserve to be called racists for 2 yrs for Harold ro then lie/backtrack and say we didn't say that silly! That's was the evil UK media!

The Markles can dish it out but just cannot take it.

Ahhh right... so they deserved that shit when they got engaged. Got you.

Novella4 · 10/02/2023 12:59

Coxspurplepippin · 10/02/2023 12:29

'This topic on mumsnet does not represent the reality of how 'royals ' are viewed in the UK
Unless the royalists here are 65/70 plus which the only remaining demographic which has a majority in support of 'royals ' .'

But overall over 60% of the population seem to be happy with a monarchy. Perhaps people, as they age, recognise the plusses of stability, longevity, tradition etc.

It's odd, Mumsnet being overall a more left leaning site, that there does seem to be quite a bit of support for maintaining the monarchy. Perhaps the monarchy is viewed in a more positive way generally than you hope think.

No logic to your post at all I'm afraid

This topic was a quiet backwater of enthusiasts rubbing their hands over blood diamond encrusted crowns and dribbling over 'protocol'
When Meghan appeared it became a battleground
Why a small cohort of older white women hate M so much is a mystery ...

When discussions re the royals appear on the main threads there is a string republican / anti royal group - at least 50 / 50 or a minority who are pre 'royals '
The mournathon threads proved that

But that's just this platform .
Twitter etc has a large and growing anti montacharost movement
The demographics are clear and coming for them
And this 60% approval - that's dire !
They aren't elected and need much higher support as a result

No poll is reliable . But the trend is a 10 % drop each decade .
50/50 is game over