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"Kate's Rebranding Masterclass May Finally See off Meghan"

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MrsMaxDeWinter · 08/02/2023 14:13

"Five months since she moved up to the second tier of the monarchy, the Princess has started beefing up her top team to make sure she succeeds not only with her “life’s work” on child development, but also with the task of besting Meghan Markle."

Why does Meghan have to look bad for Kate to look good? Why does Meghan need to be bested or seen off? Why is it a competition?

archive.ph/2023.02.08-070754/www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2023/02/08/kates-rebranding-masterclass-may-finally-see-meghan/

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Roussette · 10/02/2023 11:11

ancientgran · 10/02/2023 11:00

The issue isn't how her make up looks, the issue is about this all being made into a competition. Poor Kate couldn't work out what to wear or how to do her make up until Meghan shook it all up. Utterly ridiculous.

I totally agree. Ridiculous. And I laugh at the pathetic articles on that because it is really scraping the barrel.
They are different body figures, Kate has a very different role to Meghan, you can't compare. And I am sure their styles evolve over the years. (Mine is still evolving, I'll get there in my 80s!)
There have been outfits where both have looked absolutely fabulous, and there have been outfits that I have disliked that either have worn at different times.

Roussette · 10/02/2023 11:12

ancientgran · 10/02/2023 11:01

Still being disingenuous.

Please stop.

It was a joke! Can't we have a bit of banter on here?

notanotheroneagain · 10/02/2023 11:23

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You somehow think that MM should use her own money, while being scrutinised by the public?

Did Andrew and Camilla's children use their own millions?(when Charles put up a trust fund for the dc, and is now paying for Andrew? Ridiculous).

notanotheroneagain · 10/02/2023 11:27

DaphneduM · 10/02/2023 09:29

Whatever the rights and wrongs of everyone's behaviour here - and we'll never know the truth - I think the Royal family missed a huge opportunity with Meghan. She appeals to a lot of younger people and because she's actually worked and been an independent career woman, is very relatable.

It should never have been a competition - those two women both have their complementary skills, strengths and weaknesses. Unfortunately for the younger royals (Kate and William) people now expect more from them that just a few appearances with no measurable outcome. If they have to shake things up and modernise then surely that's a positive thing?

Missed opportunity, definitely.

Too stuck in the past and too petty and racist for the palace to change.

notanotheroneagain · 10/02/2023 11:36

Serenster · 10/02/2023 09:53

An opportunity missed with Meghan

It’s only an opportunity missed if the role the Royal Family fulfils is actually something Meghan wants to apply her (undeniable) skills and energy to, though. Aside from the money and fame it offered, I am not convinced it did. She comes across to as someone who wants to be in control of her own destiny (a CEO in her own right, if you like, not supporting someone else as CEO). And, as we have seen, having people who openly chafe at the role hasn’t turned out so well for the Royal Family.

You are correct, her skills and energy is undeniable.

Even if, by your narrative she was after being a CEO, she was that - a CEO with the emergence of Sussex Royal. The problem was that KP and others were still briefing against her. This could not work, so they proposed that they take SR far from the briefers, and they carry on with serving HMQE while not taking the taxpayer money- that somehow seems to make them, exclusively, slaves to scrutiny.

SR in Canada could have achieved a lot. The palace fumbled the bag with this one.

Serenster · 10/02/2023 11:43

Even if, by your narrative she was after being a CEO, she was that - a CEO with the emergence of Sussex Royal.

You can’t have two CEOs in one organisation. That is the simple truth. Which is why I said I don’t think this was a missed opportunity for the Royal Family, as her aims and their aims were in reality simply not compatible.

Ohnonevermind · 10/02/2023 11:43

The most important job of a CEO to manage their staff, this is where Meghan has struggled.

Being a successful CEO is about hiring the right staff, choosing a strategic direction and empowering by delegating.

her own staff found her a bully and this is impacted. Staff at the palace didn’t get paid enough to get treated like shit.

Serenster · 10/02/2023 11:48

SR in Canada could have achieved a lot. The palace fumbled the bag with this one

Actually, I think the trajectory of Meghan and Harry post January 2020 - which clearly was never to remain in Canada, by the way - has underscored how right the Palace were to take the position they did. I don’t expect you to agree, though!

Rhondaa · 10/02/2023 11:51

'SR in Canada could have achieved a lot. The palace fumbled the bag with this one.'

A rogue Sussex Royal set up in Canada would have bee a disaster. They'd have continued to do exactly as they pleased without any discussion with the rf. They were outed as being trouble causing attention seekers, the rf had a lucky escape by not giving them any power or clout to act in the Monarchy's name.

They've proved they are an untrustworthy pair of grifters time and time again. I'm amused a minority of folk on here still defend them.

Samcro · 10/02/2023 11:57

Roussette · 10/02/2023 10:30

Exactly!

I had no idea it was so controversial. I better get myself off to S&B for what I think on that subject, it ain't allowed here lol

because anything that is not seen as gushing about Kate is controversial. the same people who bash Meghan for the slightest thing(omg can you imagine if she had continued acting!!) get very upset if someone sounds even a little bit not a no 1 fan of Kate.

Bugeyedowl · 10/02/2023 11:59

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Yes, but the reason they made those proposals in the first place was because they wanted to protect themselves from all the shite that was being thrown at them. And I don't blame them.

Serenster · 10/02/2023 12:03

No, they wanted to earn a private income, something which the arrangements as they stood at the time prohibited them from doing. The first draft of the Sussex Royal manifesto setting out their “progressive new role” made that very, very clear.

notanotheroneagain · 10/02/2023 12:06

Serenster · 10/02/2023 11:43

Even if, by your narrative she was after being a CEO, she was that - a CEO with the emergence of Sussex Royal.

You can’t have two CEOs in one organisation. That is the simple truth. Which is why I said I don’t think this was a missed opportunity for the Royal Family, as her aims and their aims were in reality simply not compatible.

Yes, you can.

You have two CEOs at Archewell - H&M.

MrsMaxDeWinter · 10/02/2023 12:07

Samcro · 10/02/2023 11:57

because anything that is not seen as gushing about Kate is controversial. the same people who bash Meghan for the slightest thing(omg can you imagine if she had continued acting!!) get very upset if someone sounds even a little bit not a no 1 fan of Kate.

On this thread, some of the posters who speculate at length about at what point in their marriage the parents of two young children will divorce and who speculate about Meghan moving on to her next "mark" are absolutely outraged that Kate's make-up has been (very mildly) criticised.

It's why I love these threads.

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Roussette · 10/02/2023 12:10

*I'm amused a minority of folk on here still defend them.

Hmm... not sure it is a minority actually. 50/50 or more I would say.

I'm amused folk on here are still knocking her, given she hasn't been seen since the beginning of December. It's like a drug to some, a drug they can't give up.

Wake up. Post shit about Meghan. Rinse and repeat.

Bugeyedowl · 10/02/2023 12:11

They wanted to be independent and not live off the taxpayer. To do that they would have to earn their own money. They can't live off air. They were being constantly criticised for Frogmore renovations, more than any of the other royals. Did any other royals get criticised for the cost of maintaining their homes, at our expense? I don't remember the cost of KP being discussed while W and K were getting it done up for themselves.

smilesy · 10/02/2023 12:11

notanotheroneagain · 10/02/2023 12:06

Yes, you can.

You have two CEOs at Archewell - H&M.

But the Queen or King would always be the senior figure in the RF. Not really comparable

Novella4 · 10/02/2023 12:15

@smilesy
Senior grifter yes

Roussette · 10/02/2023 12:15

MrsMaxDeWinter · 10/02/2023 12:07

On this thread, some of the posters who speculate at length about at what point in their marriage the parents of two young children will divorce and who speculate about Meghan moving on to her next "mark" are absolutely outraged that Kate's make-up has been (very mildly) criticised.

It's why I love these threads.

Yes yes yes. And personally I didn't even criticise her make up!

I remember countless posts and threads whilst Meghan was still a working member of the RF... criticising every single aspect of her face, her body, her make up, her clothes, her smile and even one set of posts about ... her feet and shoes!
Please note... this was before they left but it was OK to do that. Hmm

But woe betide me saying Kate's make up has changed somewhat and when she goes to official evening bashes, it is heavier. Up to her how she does her make up, I don't care, it was just a comment.

Lizziet64 · 10/02/2023 12:17

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Serenster · 10/02/2023 12:18

You have two CEOs at Archewell - H&M

You just make this up, don”t you! 🤣.

Harry and Meghan are the founders of Archewell. This does not make either of them the CEO.

I am also hugely amused that you are holding Archewell up as some kind of model for cconstant change among its senior leadership. Most recently, Mandana Dayani was its President. She recently left though. Now, we are told, Shauna Nep and James Holt are “co-executive directors”. Scope and oversight completely unknown.

(I don’t know about you, but if I was going o donate my hard-earned money for a foundation, I’d at least like to know its governance!).

Lizziet64 · 10/02/2023 12:19

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Ohnonevermind · 10/02/2023 12:20

@MrsMaxDeWinter

And some of the posters agreeing with you have speculated on William and Kate’s marriage and them splitting - so pot calling the kettle and all of that ….

Serenster · 10/02/2023 12:20

I don't remember the cost of KP being discussed while W and K were getting it done

You can’t read the papers, then. It was covered and criticised at great length. Any money spent by the royals on any home also always is.

purpledalmation · 10/02/2023 12:21

Roussette · 10/02/2023 10:42

I agree, but I loathe the botox culture says wrinkled old me!

not spiteful at all. She is beautiful, but I think at 40 she can look a little stressed. Botox isn't a culture, its no different than mascara and lipstick to many woman. she is very thin and after 40 its your figure or your face.

I used the word subtle because used well its not even noticeable, except you look fresher and less tired.