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Harry admits to bullying?

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ConsistentlyClumsy · 10/01/2023 15:59

I actually really like Will, Kate and Meghan. I am not a massive fan of Harry though. However, this part of Spare makes me feel pretty uneasy. I had not made up my mind on whether I believed the bullying allegations, but I think this proves them true (at least to me.)

Obviously, this is Harry's version of events, and naturally there is two other sides here (the staff + William's side.)

Harry admits to bullying?
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LivelyBlake · 10/01/2023 16:01

Yes, that’s bullying. It sounds awful.

Boulshired · 10/01/2023 16:02

If there’s a member of staff openly weeping then there’s desperate need to address working conditions

LivelyBlake · 10/01/2023 16:09

”constant stream of errors”

”more than once …. staff wept”

I though these are the “compassionate”, touchy-feely ones…

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ConsistentlyClumsy · 10/01/2023 16:16

Also, I just checked, but the bullying allegations did not come out until after they left the UK. Really not sure how William was parroting the press about this.

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onlylarkin · 10/01/2023 16:23

Can't wait to read this entire page in context.

Legrandetraitor · 10/01/2023 16:24

The top of the page sounds like they were demanding the staff refute every single piece of negative press

they are unhinged

DogBowlsAreMyWeapon · 10/01/2023 16:28

How many staff did they need to do er… fuck all?

what were they constantly fighting? People on Twitter who wouldn’t say H&M were the bestest?

DogBowlsAreMyWeapon · 10/01/2023 16:28

What is the correct/full context for permissible bullying?

IcedPurple · 10/01/2023 16:48

DogBowlsAreMyWeapon · 10/01/2023 16:28

What is the correct/full context for permissible bullying?

The word 'context' has been doing a lot of heavy lifting these past few days.

EsmaCannonball · 10/01/2023 16:54

I've read an extract where the organisers of the 2007 Rugby World Cup give him tickets, put him up and provide him with a driver - an Irish man, rather stereotypically described as having a 'kindly, open face,' and whom Harry imagines thinking 'What the feck?' at his request to be driven through the tunnel where his mother died. (I suppose he at least avoided 'bejaysus' and 'begorrah.') Harry doesn't seem to see anything wrong with his bodyguard threatening to track this driver down with 'hell to pay' should he tell anyone about this trip. Is he used to getting his bodyguards to throw their weight around to get workers and members of the public to do their bidding or to keep silent? There's no awareness of how entitled and feudal this is.

Later on, Harry goes to a bar, tries to pick several fights, gets thrown out, and proceeds to verbally abuse and physically assault the bodyguard on the way back to the hotel. He admits this is not the first time this has happened, and the conversation between the bodyguards about Harry being a 'handful tonight' suggests they are used to dealing with him as an abusive drunk.

Honestly, he sounds like a member of the Bullingdon Club who was too thick to get into Oxford. In what scenario is it acceptable to repeatedly hit your staff and call them names? Remember, there was the snide, racist bullying in the army, too, and the story of him repeatedly humiliating a disabled matron as a schoolboy because she failed to make him 'horny.' I doubt he's the only member of the royal family to do this, but there seems to be a plethora of evidence - from his own words - that he habitually uses the inviolability of his status to abuse others.

IcedPurple · 10/01/2023 17:01

EsmaCannonball · 10/01/2023 16:54

I've read an extract where the organisers of the 2007 Rugby World Cup give him tickets, put him up and provide him with a driver - an Irish man, rather stereotypically described as having a 'kindly, open face,' and whom Harry imagines thinking 'What the feck?' at his request to be driven through the tunnel where his mother died. (I suppose he at least avoided 'bejaysus' and 'begorrah.') Harry doesn't seem to see anything wrong with his bodyguard threatening to track this driver down with 'hell to pay' should he tell anyone about this trip. Is he used to getting his bodyguards to throw their weight around to get workers and members of the public to do their bidding or to keep silent? There's no awareness of how entitled and feudal this is.

Later on, Harry goes to a bar, tries to pick several fights, gets thrown out, and proceeds to verbally abuse and physically assault the bodyguard on the way back to the hotel. He admits this is not the first time this has happened, and the conversation between the bodyguards about Harry being a 'handful tonight' suggests they are used to dealing with him as an abusive drunk.

Honestly, he sounds like a member of the Bullingdon Club who was too thick to get into Oxford. In what scenario is it acceptable to repeatedly hit your staff and call them names? Remember, there was the snide, racist bullying in the army, too, and the story of him repeatedly humiliating a disabled matron as a schoolboy because she failed to make him 'horny.' I doubt he's the only member of the royal family to do this, but there seems to be a plethora of evidence - from his own words - that he habitually uses the inviolability of his status to abuse others.

That's from Spare?

He admitted to all that himself?

Blossomtoes · 10/01/2023 17:03

“A handful tonight” sounds like an unmediated psychiatric patient. And he’s actually volunteering this shit?

sashagabadon · 10/01/2023 17:04

Sounds like Harry and Meghan were trying to refute every single story everywhere hence resources “only ten percent” of what was “ required” and yes a staff member crying presumably as they had not refuted something or other is terrible.
they would never have enough staff for that and it would be an impossible job. Poor staff and poor William trying to manage it.
and Attacking his security is dreadful. He sounds like an utter nightmare to work for.
william and Kate and the whole royal family must wake up every day relieved not to have to deal with his nonsense ( although they still do of course)

thebellagio · 10/01/2023 17:05

So far, his own words seem to have literally confirmed every single bit of bad press the two of them have had over the past 5 years....

Ridemeginger · 10/01/2023 17:08

There's a bit in the book about Harry bullying and being misogynistic towards a disabled member of staff at school (a house mother??). It's horrible. This is who he is.

BrushingDog · 10/01/2023 17:10

IcedPurple · 10/01/2023 17:01

That's from Spare?

He admitted to all that himself?

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Actually, reading this, maybe the book was written so that these stories wouldn't find their way into the media, he's got it all out there now and can't be blackmailed. He's also made money with it. Lots of $$.

watchfulwishes · 10/01/2023 17:11

I think he is being open about how he was, isn't he? He has talked about drinking, taking drugs. He was clearly not in a great frame of mind to be asked to go through the tunnel.

Isn't that the point of the book - to be open about it all?

Rather than maintaining the polished facade whilst being a mess behind closed doors.

IcedPurple · 10/01/2023 17:11

BrushingDog · 10/01/2023 17:10

Actually, reading this, maybe the book was written so that these stories wouldn't find their way into the media, he's got it all out there now and can't be blackmailed. He's also made money with it. Lots of $$.

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I very much doubt he has it 'all' out there.

And yes he will make a lot of money from this book but he's going to need it.

Who will want to be associated with him after this?

MrsMariaReynolds · 10/01/2023 17:11

EsmaCannonball · 10/01/2023 16:54

I've read an extract where the organisers of the 2007 Rugby World Cup give him tickets, put him up and provide him with a driver - an Irish man, rather stereotypically described as having a 'kindly, open face,' and whom Harry imagines thinking 'What the feck?' at his request to be driven through the tunnel where his mother died. (I suppose he at least avoided 'bejaysus' and 'begorrah.') Harry doesn't seem to see anything wrong with his bodyguard threatening to track this driver down with 'hell to pay' should he tell anyone about this trip. Is he used to getting his bodyguards to throw their weight around to get workers and members of the public to do their bidding or to keep silent? There's no awareness of how entitled and feudal this is.

Later on, Harry goes to a bar, tries to pick several fights, gets thrown out, and proceeds to verbally abuse and physically assault the bodyguard on the way back to the hotel. He admits this is not the first time this has happened, and the conversation between the bodyguards about Harry being a 'handful tonight' suggests they are used to dealing with him as an abusive drunk.

Honestly, he sounds like a member of the Bullingdon Club who was too thick to get into Oxford. In what scenario is it acceptable to repeatedly hit your staff and call them names? Remember, there was the snide, racist bullying in the army, too, and the story of him repeatedly humiliating a disabled matron as a schoolboy because she failed to make him 'horny.' I doubt he's the only member of the royal family to do this, but there seems to be a plethora of evidence - from his own words - that he habitually uses the inviolability of his status to abuse others.

😮😮😮 That is absolutely shocking. All of it. And in his own (ghost written) words...

watchfulwishes · 10/01/2023 17:12

BrushingDog · 10/01/2023 17:10

Actually, reading this, maybe the book was written so that these stories wouldn't find their way into the media, he's got it all out there now and can't be blackmailed. He's also made money with it. Lots of $$.

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I agree, if he wants any chance to be free he has to get it all out there, or the family/tabloids will just hold it over him forever.

Elayna · 10/01/2023 17:14

🤯
so all the bullying accusations were based on reality! What a toxic work culture!

Fragrantandfoolish · 10/01/2023 17:15

It does read like they were trying to get staff to address every bit of negative press, and putting them under huge strain as that would be impossible without a massive team. They then seem to blame the staff

what a pair of fucking idiots

LivelyBlake · 10/01/2023 17:16

👆This 100%

BrushingDog · 10/01/2023 17:18

watchfulwishes · 10/01/2023 17:11

I think he is being open about how he was, isn't he? He has talked about drinking, taking drugs. He was clearly not in a great frame of mind to be asked to go through the tunnel.

Isn't that the point of the book - to be open about it all?

Rather than maintaining the polished facade whilst being a mess behind closed doors.

I'm sorry 'open about it'?

To what end? It doesn't change the fact that he was an arse /ass. Did he get consent from the bodyguard and the driver to share his truth about them? WTF? It's getting worse and worse.

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 10/01/2023 17:21

Basically he sums up him and Meghan were bullies. Not surprising tbh.