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Harry claims he was never William's best man😩 this is batshit😫

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Littlepiggyinablanket · 07/01/2023 20:20

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11608591/Prince-Harry-sensationally-claims-wasnt-actually-Williams-best-man-2011-wedding.html

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MeghanAndTheSeals · 08/01/2023 04:43

I’m starting to think that, out of all of his batshit revelations, this one is the most telling.

He was there with his brother as Kate walked down the aisle. He looked really happy (though a bit worse for wear!). He did the rings. He signed the register. Is he REALLY that pissed off that his brother wanted a couple of good friends to do speeches?

I think this was THE big breaking point for him. His brother being married. It doesn’t matter that the three of them seemed to get on so well, this point flipped a switch.

His decisions since have been based around “love”. And I’m not blaming M for that. He has gone full-blown, love-bomb, adoration and god help anyone who gets in his way of his perception of their perfect love.

ZeldaWillTellYourFortune · 08/01/2023 05:10

@MeghanAndTheSeals

That's a very interesting point, that H seemed to go off the rails after W&C married.

BubziOwl · 08/01/2023 07:42

I know someone who got married fairly recently, they had a friend as best man but somebody else gave the speech because the best man wasn't a good public speaker.

Obviously that's not the case here, but my point is just that everyone does 'best man' differently. As others have said... he stood by him in the church, handed out the rings, signed the register... that's a best man, surely! Whether or not William secretly wished his best man was someone else is irrelevant.

XanaduKira · 08/01/2023 08:25

ItWasDobbinAtTheMareAndSpare · 07/01/2023 21:04

This whole thing (all of the stuff about W and H’s relationship) reminds me of The Script that gets used in (usually romantic) relationship breakups by men. The rewriting of past history to make it look like everything was bad and wrong, all the time, versus the reality, which was probably always somewhere in between. Then used as the catalyst and justification for a rift. Sadly I think time out and apart would probably have been a good thing for their future relationship, but now it’s so huge it seems impossible.

This is very true, you're right, I'd not noticed!

Novella4 · 08/01/2023 08:45

What are you all so baffled about ?

Harry is pointing out all the lies built into the public image of 'royalty'

Harry and William were not close but Harry had to be 'best man' for the image and for the gullible public to lap up the perfect family presented on a silver platter

Harry could well have been close to Kate at that point - they both had Williams horrible temper to deal with

Novella4 · 08/01/2023 08:51

BradfordGirl · 07/01/2023 20:43

Best man has no legal definition. It sounds like William made up his own definition of who was best man and who wasn't.

That does not matter. But it shows just how much they lie to the public, the whole family.

This

toomuchlaundry · 08/01/2023 09:06

So if William had his own definition of best man and asked Harry to be best man to fit that definition, where is William lying?

flapjackfairy · 08/01/2023 09:10

If the relationship as that bad why did Harry have William as his best man ?
No doubt he would claim he was made to . That would make him as big a hypocrite as his brother.
If any of this were true of course,

00100001 · 08/01/2023 09:10

Novella4 · 08/01/2023 08:51

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What lie have they told here?

WeWereInParis · 08/01/2023 09:31

Novella4 · 08/01/2023 08:45

What are you all so baffled about ?

Harry is pointing out all the lies built into the public image of 'royalty'

Harry and William were not close but Harry had to be 'best man' for the image and for the gullible public to lap up the perfect family presented on a silver platter

Harry could well have been close to Kate at that point - they both had Williams horrible temper to deal with

I don't think that's what he's said though is it? He hasn't said it was because they needed to present a perfect image, he said it was to keep William's friends out of the press scrutiny/attention. So Harry does the public bit (makes sense, he was a public figure), the friends do the private bit.

Harry had William as his best man presumably for a similar reason - have the public figure do the public bit of a very public wedding.

caringcarer · 08/01/2023 09:32

Harry must be running out of ammunition if this is the best he can fire at William. He drove in Bentley with William to church, walked up isle with him, handed over rings, signed register and gave a speech. OK maybe a couple of William's friends made a speech too. Possibly they were ushers. This is similar to Meghan claiming she got married 3 days before wedding. Both a pair of liars and fantasists.

Jean67 · 08/01/2023 09:38

The only way Harry can think he wasn't the best man is if someone has been whispering in his ear that 'you weren't really the best man'. And he's believing it.

Merrymouse · 08/01/2023 09:39

Novella4 · 08/01/2023 08:45

What are you all so baffled about ?

Harry is pointing out all the lies built into the public image of 'royalty'

Harry and William were not close but Harry had to be 'best man' for the image and for the gullible public to lap up the perfect family presented on a silver platter

Harry could well have been close to Kate at that point - they both had Williams horrible temper to deal with

We KNOW Royal Weddings are about ceremony.

We KNOW Prince William didn’t e.g. invite the German ambassador because they are friends.

We KNOW that Prince Harry and Prince Andrew are there to have a role in a state occasion, and if we are interested enough that they are ‘supporters’ and not officially the best man. This will not prevent newspapers and TV speculating about ‘the best man’s speech’, because they are trying to add relatable colour to their coverage and have a lot of time to fill, but really nobody cares. It’s not a ‘bald faced lie’, it’s what the family are paid to do.

What is baffling is why Harry would go out of his way to retrospectively disparage his relationship with his brother like this. Of course the pomp and pageantry of a royal wedding is fundamentally based on a load of old cobblers, but Harry and William (unless they are Oscar winning actors) have always appeared to be genuinely close compared to Charles and his siblings.

My completely inexpert diagnosis is Harry is screwed up by royalty, and this inevitably makes him feel betrayed by William, who from Harry’s POV is the big brother who abandoned him to be King and join the other side.

It’s all a toxic mess.

BethJ62 · 08/01/2023 09:40

BubziOwl · 08/01/2023 07:42

I know someone who got married fairly recently, they had a friend as best man but somebody else gave the speech because the best man wasn't a good public speaker.

Obviously that's not the case here, but my point is just that everyone does 'best man' differently. As others have said... he stood by him in the church, handed out the rings, signed the register... that's a best man, surely! Whether or not William secretly wished his best man was someone else is irrelevant.

But Harry did make a speech . It was widely reported !

fatfacemumma · 08/01/2023 18:53

TrashyPanda · 08/01/2023 00:04

With each new revelation, the craziness grows.

sounds he could have an argument in an empty room.

clearly the BP PR machine did an amazing job all those years Harry complains about - cos we all thought he was a decent bloke.

then he opens his mouth and the madness spills out.

do yourself a favour, Harry and shut up.

Yes!!!

Serenster · 09/01/2023 21:28

BethJ62 · 08/01/2023 09:40

But Harry did make a speech . It was widely reported !

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In his book he also talks about how he flourished an “ermine” fake fur thong to laughter as he made his speech. So yes, even he accepts he made a speech. Other may have made speeches too, but he clearly played a significant role in both the public and private parts of the wedding.

Itsnottime · 09/01/2023 21:32

Jean67 · 08/01/2023 09:38

The only way Harry can think he wasn't the best man is if someone has been whispering in his ear that 'you weren't really the best man'. And he's believing it.

Yup. Along with other things.

lohasmohas · 10/01/2023 00:30

Because Harry is a narcissist. Narcissist don't lie. They just have their own delusions that are impenetrable to suit their needs.

Today, the sky is blue. Tomorrow the sky is pink because I say it is.

lohasmohas · 10/01/2023 00:31

Narcissists is a hero when he/she saves you, but when they lose, he/she is a victim.

WakeyWakeyRiseandShine · 10/01/2023 07:34

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MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 10/01/2023 08:34

Just waiting for 'W&K didn't really get married, the children ca't inherit, I'm really the next in line to the throne after PW.' Makes as much sense as anything else he comes out with.

00100001 · 10/01/2023 09:05

Telling you...he's got a secret twin that lives in the Tower of London called Harold.
He's the one rolled out for the less lucrative interviews,and is the one that wore the uniform etc.
That's why there's variations in his narrative. Harold makes mistakes, and Harry has to come out to correct them

TheRedLip · 10/01/2023 09:53

I think Harry was perfectly happy with his role as William's best man. I remember watching how relaxed and jokey they were together in the church. I don't think he ever questioned or doubted if he was really the best man, not once.

Until a certain person started whispering in his ear, all faux doe eyed concern 'Wait so your own brother didn't think you were good enough to be the only best man at his wedding? That's so awful. You must feel so betrayed and angry darling.'

00100001 · 10/01/2023 10:44

TheRedLip · 10/01/2023 09:53

I think Harry was perfectly happy with his role as William's best man. I remember watching how relaxed and jokey they were together in the church. I don't think he ever questioned or doubted if he was really the best man, not once.

Until a certain person started whispering in his ear, all faux doe eyed concern 'Wait so your own brother didn't think you were good enough to be the only best man at his wedding? That's so awful. You must feel so betrayed and angry darling.'

Why would you think he was "perfectly happy" - what makes you think he wasn't?

I think (in his in-articulate way) he is saying that outward appearances etc do not necessarily reflect what is actually going on behind the scenes. So the world saw Harry as his best man, and he fulfilled that role to some degree. However William probably considered his friend as his "actual" best man, but Harry did the public bit to save the press interrogation to them. And also (perhaps) to stop the press/public wondering why it wasn't Harry. Probably the same when W was Harry's best man.

MoirasSaggyBundles · 10/01/2023 11:35

I think this is symptomatic of Harry's sense of propriety and exclusivity over William that is a repeated theme.

Harry complains that William didn't want to know him at school. William would have had his own friends and would not want a younger sibling hanging on. Perfectly normal reaction by William. He didn't stop being Harry's brother, I am sure he would have been there for Harry in a crisis, but he was no longer exclusive to Harry in the day to day.

William gets married and wants to include close friends in the wedding as well as his brother. Perfectly reasonable compromise is found that allows William's friends to do some speeches. His brother has a huge and very visible role as best man and does a speech, but he's not exclusively his brother's groomsman.

William gets married to Kate. Harry feels a disproportionate level of abandonment. He clearly still spends plenty of time with his brother, but William is no longer exclusively his.