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To think the palace should issue a statement condemning Clarkson's comments?

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Reindeersnooker · 20/12/2022 16:01

I'm all for their dignified silence on everything else. I don't trust Harry or Megan. But Jeremy Clarkson's comments are horrific and were made in Britain against a woman who has become a member of their family.

NOT issuing a statement sends out such a hurtful message and indicates that anything can be said about her, for all they care. Even the MPs have managed to put something on paper.

It's clear that Harry will be beyond hurt if they do nothing and this time he'd have a point, IMO. Each comment like this published in the press erodes the boundaries for online trolls. If I was Meghan, I wouldn't feel I could return to the UK as it's clear the normal rules don't apply to her. What will her children think of Britain when they grow up and become aware of these articles? Won't they be likely to wonder how the palace responded? While it makes no sense to try and placate Harry generally, letting this play out without one word of censure to the press seems needlessly provocative.

It wouldn't be difficult to issue a statement saying something to the effect of "We stand against bullying and hate speech..." Two lines to indicate they see it and it's not ok.

Or not?

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LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 21/12/2022 11:05

Novella4 · 21/12/2022 11:03

@LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet
Jesus

Camilla was there with him
Camilla is patron ofdomestic violence charities
Clarkson attacked her daughter in law in print in such a revolting way that it caused world wide outrage

And you don't see why Camilla should comment
If not Camilla should the royal family comment ?
Also no?
I see you

I SeE YoU 🤣

This lunch happened before the article.

HTH.

yUnless you expect the Royals for apologising for the ability to not turn back time or be Abel Tod we into the future.

I see you for someone who has bizarre expectations about a family who have done nothing wrong in consistently staying silent about anything unfavourable li aliens about them.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 21/12/2022 11:05

William and Harry both use ITV a lot - they did for the Diana 20 years doc. I think it may be an objection to what Bashir and the BBC did to their mum

I agree about the increasing change to ITV, Lydia, but in today's multimedia world they and the BBC are hardly the only options available

As suggested, if Harry does choose ITV for his own advertising purposes it'll be interesting to see if H&M's fans blame him for supporting an organisation whose head so clearly backs Clarkson
I won't hold my breath though ...

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 21/12/2022 11:06

ZeViteVitchofCwismas · 21/12/2022 11:04

Ok so we have had Jimmy saville, now we are onto world poverty.
Shall we also consider the needs of unknown ailens that may exist somewhere before we actually admit as a family member, Camilla/the palace/ the king's needs to condemn this article!
And they need to explain Camilla's presence at the party with mm no 1 preacher of hate.

They don’t need to explain anything .

It wasn’t her lunch.

She didn’t invite him.

She shouldn’t have to silently boycott everything someone who doesn’t like her family member may be at - or maybe she has before and we’d never know

Blossomtoes · 21/12/2022 11:06

ZeViteVitchofCwismas · 21/12/2022 11:04

Ok so we have had Jimmy saville, now we are onto world poverty.
Shall we also consider the needs of unknown ailens that may exist somewhere before we actually admit as a family member, Camilla/the palace/ the king's needs to condemn this article!
And they need to explain Camilla's presence at the party with mm no 1 preacher of hate.

We had Jimmy Savile because of your ridiculous hypothesising about what Diana would have done.

ZeViteVitchofCwismas · 21/12/2022 11:06

Impressive show horning.

I've never referred to Camilla in terms of press problems at all.

I'm specifically talking about the optics of Camilla as the head of a domestic violence charity, as a step mum in law to mm , as step Grandma to her children attending a party with her no hater there

And then Clarkson.

And Charles as well.

ZeViteVitchofCwismas · 21/12/2022 11:07

No blossom.

I never mentioned Jimmy saville you did.

Inkanta · 21/12/2022 11:08

Yes I think the King and his Queen need to speak and condemn the article.

The mood of the nation is turning against the royal family now as well as the press.

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 21/12/2022 11:08

ZeViteVitchofCwismas · 21/12/2022 11:06

Impressive show horning.

I've never referred to Camilla in terms of press problems at all.

I'm specifically talking about the optics of Camilla as the head of a domestic violence charity, as a step mum in law to mm , as step Grandma to her children attending a party with her no hater there

And then Clarkson.

And Charles as well.

AFAIK nobody at the party has ever been convicted of DV.

It’s a huge stretch that only you and one other poster are making. You cannot expect her to only ever be around good kind people who never uttered a bad word about anyone.

Roussette · 21/12/2022 11:08

I think it's tied at no. 1 Clarkson and Morgan. (both being schmoozed at the lunch)

Morgan is totally and utterly obsessed with her and it has become stalker-ish. There is something very wrong with him.

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 21/12/2022 11:09

Inkanta · 21/12/2022 11:08

Yes I think the King and his Queen need to speak and condemn the article.

The mood of the nation is turning against the royal family now as well as the press.

They’ve been through worse. They’ll be fine.

ZeViteVitchofCwismas · 21/12/2022 11:09

"doesn't like her ".

That's massively underplaying the sheer vitriolic spew that pm pumps out about Megan.

Megan said she has received death threats?
Death threats??

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 21/12/2022 11:10

ZeViteVitchofCwismas · 21/12/2022 11:09

"doesn't like her ".

That's massively underplaying the sheer vitriolic spew that pm pumps out about Megan.

Megan said she has received death threats?
Death threats??

From Piers Morgan specifically?

Its nothing to do with Camilla. She should not have to boycott lunches where other people are who aren’t MM supporters. Especially when H&M have been so fierce in their condemnation of the family and made wild accusations and told lies about

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 21/12/2022 11:11

Anyway. We are going round in circles. You don’t think she should abbé gone to lunch and as a result should step down from a charity she supports, and I think that’s perhaps one of the most ridiculous things to blame an unassociated woman for.

The end.

ZeViteVitchofCwismas · 21/12/2022 11:11

No I don't think they Will this time.

As a father Charles should not stay silent.
Maybe he literally doesn't care..

Charles and Camilla suddenly seem small and cowardly whilst piers Morgan and Clarkson stand giant like bearing down on mm via the press.

pelargoniums · 21/12/2022 11:12

Why on earth should she miss out on her fun and invitations
Ahahahaha this is so unintentionally hilarious. What an impassioned defence: Camilla’s gotta fight! For the right! To paaaarrrrrrrty! Pity the poor multimillionaire Queen missing the occasional luncheon in the company of odious racist twerps. I imagine her dance card is full enough she can have a fun-filled diary of larks and invitations even if she occasionally turns down one or two that put her cheek by jowl with horrendous men.

Inspecto · 21/12/2022 11:12

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 21/12/2022 10:22

In what way will releasing a statement protect anyone?

Did you not read the OP?

It wouldn't be difficult to issue a statement saying something to the effect of "We stand against bullying and hate speech..." Two lines to indicate they see it and it's not ok.”

The palace has major influence. A statement can do something to help protect people from bullying and misogyny hate speech. Even a general statement like that will make a difference to how people think and behave.

It may even get the likes to Jeremy Clarkson to be more thoughtful the next time they’re out to attack a member of the royal family. But the failure to say anything suggests the palace are on team Clarkson. And that is appalling.

ZeViteVitchofCwismas · 21/12/2022 11:13

I think there should be an explanation of what a public funded person was doing there with pier's.

I think she needs to condemn Clarkson articles.

As a family they should speak out for mm.

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 21/12/2022 11:13

ZeViteVitchofCwismas · 21/12/2022 11:11

No I don't think they Will this time.

As a father Charles should not stay silent.
Maybe he literally doesn't care..

Charles and Camilla suddenly seem small and cowardly whilst piers Morgan and Clarkson stand giant like bearing down on mm via the press.

To you. Not to other.

FGS of course he cares!! I’m sure he was furious when he read it - but he is the head of an institution that does things in a certain why and walks a fine line already when it comes to the press. They never have responded to individual scathing articles and there’s no reason to start now.

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 21/12/2022 11:14

Inspecto · 21/12/2022 11:12

Did you not read the OP?

It wouldn't be difficult to issue a statement saying something to the effect of "We stand against bullying and hate speech..." Two lines to indicate they see it and it's not ok.”

The palace has major influence. A statement can do something to help protect people from bullying and misogyny hate speech. Even a general statement like that will make a difference to how people think and behave.

It may even get the likes to Jeremy Clarkson to be more thoughtful the next time they’re out to attack a member of the royal family. But the failure to say anything suggests the palace are on team Clarkson. And that is appalling.

Haven’t you read all the replies saying why they don’t tend to do that?

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 21/12/2022 11:15

ZeViteVitchofCwismas · 21/12/2022 11:13

I think there should be an explanation of what a public funded person was doing there with pier's.

I think she needs to condemn Clarkson articles.

As a family they should speak out for mm.

She wasn’t in a working capacity. She is allowed to have time off. She wasn’t ‘there with Piers’ they were invited to the same lunch that 200 other people were at.

Coxspurplepippin · 21/12/2022 11:15

Camilla was excoriated by the British press, the tabloids regularly referred to her as the most hated woman in Britain, she was villified for her looks. She received a lot of horrendous comments on social media after The Crown aired. Perhaps she's well aware that the best way of dealing with the misogynistic crap is to say nothing. Responses feed the fire.

Perhaps Harry and Meghan have taken a leaf out of RF book and decided no comment is the best response. Who knows. But if they haven't commented, why is it up to others?

I'm still Hmm that Camilla now appears to be solely responsible for Clarkson's arseholery. Plus ca change.

minou123 · 21/12/2022 11:15

Um, William and Kate released a statement on thier twitter account, condeming the racism the England Footballers faced in Euros last year.

The RF are not responsible for the racism in the press and social media and the public were already condeming the racism.

Yet, they used thier platform to condemn it.

So they can and do condemn hatred.

Roussette · 21/12/2022 11:15

and I think that’s perhaps one of the most ridiculous things to blame an unassociated woman for.

Unassociated? Crumbs. It's her DIL, like it or not.

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 21/12/2022 11:16

It seems no one was angry about Camila simply being in the same vicinity as PM until it was pointed out that she did not, as accused, host Jeremy Clarkson for a private lunch. It’s almost like ANYTHING will be stretched to try and blame the woman.

Choconut · 21/12/2022 11:16

They didn't put out a statement when a bloke actually broke into the Queen's bedroom and could easily have killed her. I don't know why they would put out a statement about Jeremy Clarkson saying ridiculous things about MM, it would just be very bizarre.

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