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The royal family

Harry and Meghan - lies?

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FurAndFeathers · 28/10/2022 19:51

Ok I’m keeping my fingers crossed this thread will not descend into an unsubstantiated bun fight! Please bear with me.

I’m definitely no Royalist, and am pretty ambivalent about H and M but from the little I’ve read they seem to have been treated pretty badly. However I keep seeing on other threads here that their claims have all be proven to be lies, which would make me much less sympathetic to them. But I can’t find any verification for this.

So I’m asking more knowledgeable posters - what lies specifically have H&M told and where’s the evidence to the contrary please?

thank you

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Roussette · 02/11/2022 20:58

Croque · 02/11/2022 20:53

Roussette · 31/10/2022 21:15
derxa · 31/10/2022 21:07
He's trapped in that position whether he likes it or not
"Trapped" - about some child whom you don't even know anything about who has only ever looked happy and well adjusted.
Anyway, please don't reply to my posts again. I am not interested in your opinions. We will not agree on anything and you will not change my mind about anything (the opposite, actually). Thanks

Yes attack me with outright LIES then tell me not to respond.

No can do.

Calling George a sweet sensitive little boy and saying he is trapped in his position is NOT laying into George.

You lie

Roussette · 02/11/2022 21:00

milti · 02/11/2022 20:55

There’s no need to comment on children at all - not your business and you have no idea what George is like

Tell that to all the other posters who even start threads about the royal children then and comment on them

Stop jumping on the bandwagon

He comes across as a lovely little boy and I am perfectly entitled to say that

milti · 02/11/2022 21:11

Don’t tell me what to do roussette

milti · 02/11/2022 21:13

what Bandwagon - you are a disingenuous poster - threatening to report people - woooo scary

wordler · 02/11/2022 21:14

Croque · 02/11/2022 20:53

Roussette · 31/10/2022 21:15
derxa · 31/10/2022 21:07
He's trapped in that position whether he likes it or not
"Trapped" - about some child whom you don't even know anything about who has only ever looked happy and well adjusted.
Anyway, please don't reply to my posts again. I am not interested in your opinions. We will not agree on anything and you will not change my mind about anything (the opposite, actually). Thanks

Well I’m the first to disagree with @Roussette on a LOT of things but that’s not the same as saying something nasty about one of the kids. It’s certainly not ‘laying into’ them.

I think talking about one’s opinion of the system as it relates to the kids is fine.

Gilmorehill · 02/11/2022 21:15

I am not comfortable with commenting on dcs either, either positively or negatively. They have a right to grow up in privacy and not have strangers discussing them on a forum or in the comments section of news sites.

Roussette · 02/11/2022 21:16

milti · 02/11/2022 21:13

what Bandwagon - you are a disingenuous poster - threatening to report people - woooo scary

🤣😂🤣😂🤣

You are funny!

Roussette · 02/11/2022 21:17

Gilmorehill · 02/11/2022 21:15

I am not comfortable with commenting on dcs either, either positively or negatively. They have a right to grow up in privacy and not have strangers discussing them on a forum or in the comments section of news sites.

I hope you've reported the endless posts about the royal children and even the threads about them.

Roussette · 02/11/2022 21:19

wordler · 02/11/2022 21:14

Well I’m the first to disagree with @Roussette on a LOT of things but that’s not the same as saying something nasty about one of the kids. It’s certainly not ‘laying into’ them.

I think talking about one’s opinion of the system as it relates to the kids is fine.

Thank you.

I appreciate that

Gilmorehill · 02/11/2022 21:21

Roussette · 02/11/2022 21:17

I hope you've reported the endless posts about the royal children and even the threads about them.

Why? I actually have things to do in RL and don’t have time to police what people say on an Internet forum (or get into squabbles or pick fights with individual posters).

milti · 02/11/2022 21:22

It is funny that you think people would be bothered about you reporting to them to mumsnet - maybe some would - surely not

Roussette · 02/11/2022 21:22

You're picking me up on saying something nice about George though. Glad you found the time to do that!

milti · 02/11/2022 21:22

What is your endless obsession with reporting things !?!

milti · 02/11/2022 21:23

Are you 5 years old ?!

Roussette · 02/11/2022 21:23

milti · 02/11/2022 21:22

It is funny that you think people would be bothered about you reporting to them to mumsnet - maybe some would - surely not

So pleased I've brightened your day with laughter!

milti · 02/11/2022 21:24

you haven’t

Roussette · 02/11/2022 21:24

milti · 02/11/2022 21:23

Are you 5 years old ?!

You're cracking me up! 🤣😂🤣😂🤣

Marulatree · 02/11/2022 21:42

@MaulPerton

Expansionism, racism and gender are part of the fabric of every single society on earth.

I don’t know what point you’re trying to make with this statement. What I do know, however, is that not every nations’ wealth was acquired and built on the backs of those they colonised and enslaved, or through the act of pillage and the theft of land, people, and historic items. If you think the history of every nation pertains to such unatoned crimes then you really need to consult a few more history books (and authoritative ones at that).

Bringing it back to the royal family, the British monarchy was central to the establishment, expansion and the maintenance of the British Empire and the transatlantic slave trade. Even Prince William acknowledged this deplorable period of British history when he said “I strongly agree… that the appalling atrocity of slavery forever stains our history” during an address to Jamaica’s prime minister earlier this year.

He failed, however, to account for the role of the monarchy during this time. Perhaps this is unsurprising since he, along with the rest of his family, continues to benefit from the spoils accumulated.

Morestrangethings · 02/11/2022 21:42

Croque · 02/11/2022 20:53

Roussette · 31/10/2022 21:15
derxa · 31/10/2022 21:07
He's trapped in that position whether he likes it or not
"Trapped" - about some child whom you don't even know anything about who has only ever looked happy and well adjusted.
Anyway, please don't reply to my posts again. I am not interested in your opinions. We will not agree on anything and you will not change my mind about anything (the opposite, actually). Thanks

That is not a criticism of a child.

Morestrangethings · 02/11/2022 21:49

I think talking about one’s opinion of the system as it relates to the kids is fine.

I agree with your take on the children, wordler. It’s not criticism of the child.

Morestrangethings · 02/11/2022 21:58

Croque · 02/11/2022 17:06

It seems that it impossible to really understand and properly appreciate British life and culture from the outside looking in. You would probably have to be raised here or live here for a long time to 'get it'. The cookie-cutter clichés may sound powerful but they do not amount to much more than loud noises. M didn't 'get it' either. The house is still winning.

Those of us bought up in a colonised countries, (In my case one with with a British Monarch as head of state) , have more insight than you can recognise Croque.

Roussette · 02/11/2022 22:01

Morestrangethings · 02/11/2022 21:49

I think talking about one’s opinion of the system as it relates to the kids is fine.

I agree with your take on the children, wordler. It’s not criticism of the child.

Exactly. And it was obvious that my post was in that context

Morestrangethings · 02/11/2022 22:16

YourTruthorMine · 02/11/2022 19:10

Ageism is starting to sneak in to these threads too. I notice how it's only 'silly older women' that don't like Meghan. If only M & H would stop their relentless PR, which infiltrates all sectors of the media, including publications that they specifically said they wouldn't engage with. I guess any publicity is good publicty, right. Hardly surprising their popularity is in decline

I’m an older woman that thinks Megan has been treated very unfairly. She seems perfectly nice to me going by her podcast. She’s good at it all ready. And getting better as she finds her feet in the medium. Harry in ‘the me you cannot see’ produced by Oprah Winfrey and Harry is impressive. It’s a good resource for those seeking help with their mental health, imo. Harry and the other guests on the series have very valuable insight on the matter.

When I just listen to what Harry and Meghan have to say it’s easier to form a truer impression of them, I find. Rather than letting myself be influenced by other people through the medium of interviews and profile pieces.

The mental health series ‘The Me You Cannot See’ rarely gets a mention on mn. Is that because it’s topic is mental health and this is a British forum and the British don’t like to talk about mental health? I’ve seen ill mental health portrayed as a weakness on one of these Royal threads.

Morestrangethings · 02/11/2022 22:21

Roussette · 02/11/2022 22:01

Exactly. And it was obvious that my post was in that context

Yes, it was obvious to me Rousette.

AuroraCake · 02/11/2022 22:23

Morestrangethings · 02/11/2022 22:16

I’m an older woman that thinks Megan has been treated very unfairly. She seems perfectly nice to me going by her podcast. She’s good at it all ready. And getting better as she finds her feet in the medium. Harry in ‘the me you cannot see’ produced by Oprah Winfrey and Harry is impressive. It’s a good resource for those seeking help with their mental health, imo. Harry and the other guests on the series have very valuable insight on the matter.

When I just listen to what Harry and Meghan have to say it’s easier to form a truer impression of them, I find. Rather than letting myself be influenced by other people through the medium of interviews and profile pieces.

The mental health series ‘The Me You Cannot See’ rarely gets a mention on mn. Is that because it’s topic is mental health and this is a British forum and the British don’t like to talk about mental health? I’ve seen ill mental health portrayed as a weakness on one of these Royal threads.

It just wasn’t that big a deal in the UK. I don’t think many people watched it. I’m not sure how popular apple is. Lots of people just seemed to watch Ted Lasso on it.

And mental health is huge in the UK and constantly talked about.

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