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Harry and Meghan - lies?

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FurAndFeathers · 28/10/2022 19:51

Ok I’m keeping my fingers crossed this thread will not descend into an unsubstantiated bun fight! Please bear with me.

I’m definitely no Royalist, and am pretty ambivalent about H and M but from the little I’ve read they seem to have been treated pretty badly. However I keep seeing on other threads here that their claims have all be proven to be lies, which would make me much less sympathetic to them. But I can’t find any verification for this.

So I’m asking more knowledgeable posters - what lies specifically have H&M told and where’s the evidence to the contrary please?

thank you

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Marulatree · 02/11/2022 16:01

@MmeArnault Sorry, I’m only adept in two languages. Emoji isn’t one of them. But you show such mastery 👏 (err, I think that’s correct).

Ohnonevermind · 02/11/2022 16:08

always stay curious and have a growth mindset @Marulatree , it’s never too late to learn new things 😉
(that’s a wink )

MarshaMelrose · 02/11/2022 16:32

Your monarchy is outdated and a form of enslavement.

🙄 😂😂

Mrsorganmorgan · 02/11/2022 16:36

I agree.

milti · 02/11/2022 16:41

MarshaMelrose · 02/11/2022 16:32

Your monarchy is outdated and a form of enslavement.

🙄 😂😂

what a crock of shit 😂😂

Croque · 02/11/2022 17:06

It seems that it impossible to really understand and properly appreciate British life and culture from the outside looking in. You would probably have to be raised here or live here for a long time to 'get it'. The cookie-cutter clichés may sound powerful but they do not amount to much more than loud noises. M didn't 'get it' either. The house is still winning.

MidnightConstellation · 02/11/2022 17:38

wordler · 02/11/2022 15:42

Did you go to school in the UK?

We did loads about the evolution of the monarchy and how that has shaped the UK across the centuries - 1066, Henry VIII, Cromwell, Tudors/Stuarts, the evolution of a constitutional monarchy, and how that shaped our governing systems.

Admittedly I did History GCSE and A-Level (and the a History degree) so went into depth on some of these topics but I remember doing a lot of this at primary too.

And I went to bog-standard state schools so I assume it was the national curriculum.

I remember one lesson in primary about women in powerful positions as we had both a female head of state and PM at the same time for the first time. And how that was inspirational for women (oh how you let us down, Maggie). I would have been about 8 years old for that - so we definitely went over the history of the monarchy and the late Queen's role for that.

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Yes I did. Honestly did nothing at all on the monarchy, past or present. I’ve learned a lot since because I’m passionate about history.

MmeArnault · 02/11/2022 18:11

Marulatree · 02/11/2022 16:01

@MmeArnault Sorry, I’m only adept in two languages. Emoji isn’t one of them. But you show such mastery 👏 (err, I think that’s correct).

Oh well done @Marulatree between you and I that's 6 languages then + the language of emoji, obv.

Roussette · 02/11/2022 18:20

Croque · 02/11/2022 09:42

You asked for evidence of how she was freeloading off the royals. But you don't actually like to hear it. Well, there's a surprise! 😉

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You call that evidence?

I don't. It's nasty talk and insulting language about another person

MmeArnault · 02/11/2022 18:24

@Croque omg this thread is hilarious

MaulPerton · 02/11/2022 18:27

Marulatree · 02/11/2022 13:39

How can issues concerning colonialism, racism or gender in the context of the British Empire be deemed tongue-in-cheek? Furthermore, what does the following mean: on what basis are you arguing for a hierarchy in this context? The sentence doesn’t appear to have a meaning in any recognised context.
P.S. I can certainly deduce the unenlightened but admittedly that doesn’t require any intellectual prowess.

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Given that expansionism, racism and gender are part of the fabric of every single society on earth, why do you put Britain at the top of this particular (expansionism, racism and gender) hierarchy?

Roussette · 02/11/2022 18:27

Morestrangethings · 02/11/2022 10:55

is this talent-lacking broad.

So insulting. The whole thing. But calling Meghan a talent lacking ‘broad.’ I couldn’t believe it when I read it. A broad? Wth?

as to being pretentious - yes she came across like that in The cut interview - at least to me - but a lot of people act pretentiously, it might make them a little humorous but it’s a fairly common trait and not a bad or immoral trait - a silly trait at worst.

There are some posters on MN that are so good at being pretentious they could give how-to-be-pretentious lessons to Meghan: she doesn’t strike me as pretentious on her podcast. She comes across as warm and humorous and has a great speaking voice.

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The slurs and insults are off the scale on this thread
I'd like to report them but can't be arsed. I'd rather they stand as testament to some unpleasant posters on here. So much hate and snobbery

Roussette · 02/11/2022 18:31

MarshaMelrose · 02/11/2022 13:31

This is a well harsh thread. Lol. I think Meghan has nice manners, dresses nicely, people who have spoken to her say she's nice, maybe a bit pretentious but nice. She's not living on my dime. So I don't see the problem. I know she's going to trade on her connection to the RF, it's her USP, but I can accept that because, ultimately, that's human nature and a business necessity for them at this stage.
My only criticism is that she should stop trying to drag the family that has given her the opportunity to live in the wonderful 14 bed house she always wanted to live in but, without being royal, could never have afforded. She has all these advantages conferred on her by dint of being related to the king, so honestly, STFU talking about them. Then the UK really wouldn't bother talking about them which is, after all, what they say they want.

Well said

My sentiments exactly

Croque · 02/11/2022 18:53

MmeArnault · 02/11/2022 18:24

@Croque omg this thread is hilarious

I can see why that mansion needs fourteen bathrooms 😅

susan12345678 · 02/11/2022 19:10

My only criticism is that she should stop trying to drag the family that has given her the opportunity to live in the wonderful 14 bed house she always wanted to live in but, without being royal, could never have afforded. She has all these advantages conferred on her by dint of being related to the king, so honestly, STFU talking about them. Then the UK really wouldn't bother talking about them which is, after all, what they say they want

agreed!

YourTruthorMine · 02/11/2022 19:10

Ageism is starting to sneak in to these threads too. I notice how it's only 'silly older women' that don't like Meghan. If only M & H would stop their relentless PR, which infiltrates all sectors of the media, including publications that they specifically said they wouldn't engage with. I guess any publicity is good publicty, right. Hardly surprising their popularity is in decline

MaulPerton · 02/11/2022 19:23

Roussette · 02/11/2022 18:31

Well said

My sentiments exactly

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Something we can all agree on (the last part, for sure)! Nicely done, Marsha.

milti · 02/11/2022 19:28

Nice manners 😂😂 I don’t think so

Croque · 02/11/2022 19:50

YourTruthorMine · 02/11/2022 19:10

Ageism is starting to sneak in to these threads too. I notice how it's only 'silly older women' that don't like Meghan. If only M & H would stop their relentless PR, which infiltrates all sectors of the media, including publications that they specifically said they wouldn't engage with. I guess any publicity is good publicty, right. Hardly surprising their popularity is in decline

For a start, many of her supporters on this thread have said that they are grandparents and why is it relevant anyway? Am I too young for this thread? 😮

Croque · 02/11/2022 20:10

Roussette · 02/11/2022 18:20

You call that evidence?

I don't. It's nasty talk and insulting language about another person

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I'll remember that the next time you lay into nine year old Prince George like you did on the Kate & William thread 😉

AuroraCake · 02/11/2022 20:32

Live and let live. Leave the family alone. Get on with your life. If only.

Roussette · 02/11/2022 20:43

Croque · 02/11/2022 20:10

I'll remember that the next time you lay into nine year old Prince George like you did on the Kate & William thread 😉

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Don't you DARE say that.

I will report you for deliberate lies if you carry on.

I called him a gentle sweet little boy. That is quite obviously not 'laying into Prince George'

I expect an apology but won't get one I'm sure

Roussette · 02/11/2022 20:46

And I have no idea but from what I've seen he comes across as a gentle sensitive little boy, and who knows what that will mean for the future

There you go. That is all I have said about him. Apart from saying I feel sorry for him having his life mapped out for him from birth

Stop making stuff up. You're showing your true colours

I would never attack a child.

Croque · 02/11/2022 20:53

Roussette · 31/10/2022 21:15
derxa · 31/10/2022 21:07
He's trapped in that position whether he likes it or not
"Trapped" - about some child whom you don't even know anything about who has only ever looked happy and well adjusted.
Anyway, please don't reply to my posts again. I am not interested in your opinions. We will not agree on anything and you will not change my mind about anything (the opposite, actually). Thanks

milti · 02/11/2022 20:55

There’s no need to comment on children at all - not your business and you have no idea what George is like

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