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Why are H&M "less important" now?

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thefoggiest · 17/09/2022 09:16

Let's not make this a bashing thread!
But in another thread yesterday it occured to me that the way I see it, I just get the sense that with the queens death they almost drop a rank. But that doesnt make sense? If anything shouldn't they now feel more important? Now that her majesty has gone it just feels like they become more distant somehow. Could it be to do with the passing of a generation, so they are no longer "the youth"?

By the way this isnt based on any facts or anything I've read, just a feeling on it. Can anyone explain? Am I right or wrong?

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tadara · 23/09/2022 19:21

StormzyinaTCup · 23/09/2022 19:19

I think the issue is that this would hurt William and Kate and they need to keep a clean slate as next in line. If he protects Harry it back fires for William.

In what way would it hurt William, has he been accused of bullying? Have I missed something?

Exactly, so the Palace should release the report.

tadara · 23/09/2022 19:22

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Thesummeriwas16 · 23/09/2022 19:23

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And you're not of course?

tadara · 23/09/2022 19:24

Thesummeriwas16 · 23/09/2022 19:23

And you're not of course?

I'm a fan, I'm allowed 😅

Thesummeriwas16 · 23/09/2022 19:25

tadara · 23/09/2022 19:24

I'm a fan, I'm allowed 😅

Hmmmmm............ 🙄

Rapidtango · 23/09/2022 19:25

Coucous and firstTM, it's probably because Harry and Meghan have resorted to very publicly complaining about the incredibly privileged life they had, and still have. Pair of tone deaf twits.

Tadara, give the racism angle a rest. Given, some people are racist. But not everyone who doesn't like the way Meghan behaves is.

If you think that ringing staff at all hours and shouting down the phone at them isn't abuse, I feel for your staff.

Another snippet from the article
'At around the same time, Meghan spoke particularly harshly at a meeting to a young female member of the team in front of her colleagues. After Meghan had pulled to shreds a plan she had drawn up, the woman told Meghan how hard it would be to implement a new one. “Don’t worry,” Meghan told her. “If there was literally anyone else I could ask to do this, I would be asking them instead of you.” '

StormzyinaTCup · 23/09/2022 19:26

Exactly, so the Palace should release the report.

Releasing or not releasing the report likely has nothing to do with William and everything to do with KC relationship with his youngest son.

Or they could be waiting until PH book is out and then release the reportWink.

tadara · 23/09/2022 19:28

Rapidtango · 23/09/2022 19:25

Coucous and firstTM, it's probably because Harry and Meghan have resorted to very publicly complaining about the incredibly privileged life they had, and still have. Pair of tone deaf twits.

Tadara, give the racism angle a rest. Given, some people are racist. But not everyone who doesn't like the way Meghan behaves is.

If you think that ringing staff at all hours and shouting down the phone at them isn't abuse, I feel for your staff.

Another snippet from the article
'At around the same time, Meghan spoke particularly harshly at a meeting to a young female member of the team in front of her colleagues. After Meghan had pulled to shreds a plan she had drawn up, the woman told Meghan how hard it would be to implement a new one. “Don’t worry,” Meghan told her. “If there was literally anyone else I could ask to do this, I would be asking them instead of you.” '

'At around the same time, Meghan spoke particularly harshly at a meeting to a young female member of the team in front of her colleagues. After Meghan had pulled to shreds a plan she had drawn up, the woman told Meghan how hard it would be to implement a new one. “Don’t worry,” Meghan told her. “If there was literally anyone else I could ask to do this, I would be asking them instead of you.” '

AND? Maybe the plan was TRASH? By ripped to shreds they mean nothing more than constructive criticism but coming from a black woman, she was rIpPiNg iT tO shReDs.

A bunch of racist tories who didn't want to work for a black woman, next!

tadara · 23/09/2022 19:30

StormzyinaTCup · 23/09/2022 19:26

Exactly, so the Palace should release the report.

Releasing or not releasing the report likely has nothing to do with William and everything to do with KC relationship with his youngest son.

Or they could be waiting until PH book is out and then release the reportWink.

It's a four book deal. Anything Harry left out of Book 1, will go in Book 2. SCORCHED EARTH, let's go 😌

MaulPerton · 23/09/2022 19:30

tadara · 23/09/2022 19:24

I'm a fan, I'm allowed 😅

Are you a taxpayer?

Thesummeriwas16 · 23/09/2022 19:30

tadara · 23/09/2022 19:28

'At around the same time, Meghan spoke particularly harshly at a meeting to a young female member of the team in front of her colleagues. After Meghan had pulled to shreds a plan she had drawn up, the woman told Meghan how hard it would be to implement a new one. “Don’t worry,” Meghan told her. “If there was literally anyone else I could ask to do this, I would be asking them instead of you.” '

AND? Maybe the plan was TRASH? By ripped to shreds they mean nothing more than constructive criticism but coming from a black woman, she was rIpPiNg iT tO shReDs.

A bunch of racist tories who didn't want to work for a black woman, next!

🙄

tadara · 23/09/2022 19:30

MaulPerton · 23/09/2022 19:30

Are you a taxpayer?

Yup, fully paid up 😀

RoseAndRose · 23/09/2022 19:31

tadara · 23/09/2022 18:28

I find this so heart breaking, Harry was so right not to trust William.

How would William have known that the Sussexes were put into a spin, but that Harry was in favour?

That can't have come from anyone but the Sussexes

Thesummeriwas16 · 23/09/2022 19:32

tadara · 23/09/2022 19:28

'At around the same time, Meghan spoke particularly harshly at a meeting to a young female member of the team in front of her colleagues. After Meghan had pulled to shreds a plan she had drawn up, the woman told Meghan how hard it would be to implement a new one. “Don’t worry,” Meghan told her. “If there was literally anyone else I could ask to do this, I would be asking them instead of you.” '

AND? Maybe the plan was TRASH? By ripped to shreds they mean nothing more than constructive criticism but coming from a black woman, she was rIpPiNg iT tO shReDs.

A bunch of racist tories who didn't want to work for a black woman, next!

You're starting to sound very silly!

Tillsforthrills · 23/09/2022 19:32

tadara · 23/09/2022 18:38

Where was the bullying? point it out exactly. I don't see anything but desperation to paint a black woman as an angry bully. Thankfully, most non racists will see right through it.

Your argument is defunct darling. Are you trying to say that it’s impossible she was a bully because she’s mixed race?

Serenster · 23/09/2022 19:32

AND? Maybe the plan was TRASH? By ripped to shreds they mean nothing more than constructive criticism but coming from a black woman, she was rIpPiNg iT tO shReDs.

A bunch of racist tories who didn't want to work for a black woman, next!

No joke, but since you describe yourself as a team leader you might want to look into some training….

tadara · 23/09/2022 19:34

RoseAndRose · 23/09/2022 19:31

How would William have known that the Sussexes were put into a spin, but that Harry was in favour?

That can't have come from anyone but the Sussexes

From the Sussexes to Low who has been spinning tales of Meghan being a bully? please be serious.

Rapidtango · 23/09/2022 19:34

Tadara, you're not coming across in a way that's going to help your cause, win friends and influence, well, let's face it, anybody.

StormzyinaTCup · 23/09/2022 19:35

A bunch of racist tories who didn't want to work for a black woman, next!

I didn't read anywhere in that passage that said the staff were wearing blue rosettes and drinking tea out of 'I love Boris' mugs nevermind that they were also racists to boot.

You certainly have read more into that article than was actually there.

IcedPurple · 23/09/2022 19:35

tadara · 23/09/2022 19:13

I have, I swear. Multiple times.

I see a bunch of racists ganging up to make a black woman look like a bully because they couldn't do their jobs and hated taking orders.

They've said to Tominey that they didn't sign up to work for a cable actress.

Samantha Cohen who went to work for Boris Johnson (flopped as he's now out of a job). A revolving door of racist Tories, Simon Case et al

Is MN OK with named public figures being called 'racist' without evidence on their forum?

It's a good thing you're an anonymous poster, because you could find yourself in legal trouble if you actually came out and made those claims in person.

Speaking of which, when is Meghan going to sue over all these 'false claims'? Mind you, she didn't sue over the Sunday Times article, despite being notoriously litigious. Which leads one to draw the obvious conclusion.

tadara · 23/09/2022 19:36

Serenster · 23/09/2022 19:32

AND? Maybe the plan was TRASH? By ripped to shreds they mean nothing more than constructive criticism but coming from a black woman, she was rIpPiNg iT tO shReDs.

A bunch of racist tories who didn't want to work for a black woman, next!

No joke, but since you describe yourself as a team leader you might want to look into some training….

My team are all very happy with me actually. I expect a high quality of work and they deliver every time.

tadara · 23/09/2022 19:37

Rapidtango · 23/09/2022 19:34

Tadara, you're not coming across in a way that's going to help your cause, win friends and influence, well, let's face it, anybody.

Not here to influence, just adding my two cents, that's not a problem, is it?

ReneBumsWombats · 23/09/2022 19:38

I think tadara is an agent planted to make Harry and Meghan supporters look ridiculous.

I can think of ways to defend them against the allegations made in the article, but this is just loony.

tadara · 23/09/2022 19:40

Tillsforthrills · 23/09/2022 19:32

Your argument is defunct darling. Are you trying to say that it’s impossible she was a bully because she’s mixed race?

Darling 😂 Nope, just that the people in question have previously blanched at taking orders from what they called a cable actress. Anything she said would be filtered through an ugly lens

tadara · 23/09/2022 19:41

ReneBumsWombats · 23/09/2022 19:38

I think tadara is an agent planted to make Harry and Meghan supporters look ridiculous.

I can think of ways to defend them against the allegations made in the article, but this is just loony.

Why loony? 😂

Everyone's got their point of view.

What does your support of Harry and Meghan look like? Genuinely curious.

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