Harry’s legal proceedings against Home Office

[SnottyLottie]

Part of Harry’s claim will remain private. The judge has granted that some documentation can be withheld or redacted due to security reasons (seems sensible to me).

But today the judge has berated Harry’s legal team for breaching the court rules when a copy of the rulings were emailed to someone who’s wasn’t a lawyer. Lawyer Shaheed Fatima WC was also berated for coming into court without an apology for the “clear breach” of court rules.

news.sky.com/story/prince-harrys-lawyer-criticised-as-parts-of-police-protection-claim-against-home-office-to-be-kept-secret-12574161

The embargoed material was sent to a member of the Sussex PR team, apparently.

There's another issue, per The Telegraph: "The Duke of Sussex has been warned by a judge not to use court cases to "publicise irrelevant material” '.

Per the judge: "Legal proceedings do not exist for the purpose of permitting parties to put irrelevant matters in the public domain, and the court must be astute to ensure that proceedings, legitimately pursued, do not become the occasion to publicise irrelevant material."

Another case of Harry wanting the penny and the bun.
The privilege without the effort.
The privacy but the opportunity to capitalise on the privacy case itself.
Narcissism and self pity.

I wonder what is behind the judge's statement. Certainly doesn't seem to be in favour of Harry. Be interesting to see what the outcome is. I hope the judgement doesn't come until after the jubilee. I expect he's desperate to come and try to be a proper royal again.

@OverByYer

Another case of Harry wanting the penny and the bun. The privilege without the effort. The privacy but the opportunity to capitalise on the privacy case itself. Narcissism and self pity.

Exactly

It's getting very boring now let's sue someone to live on my mansion with my awful wife who wears the trousers and shit on my family and my country

Maybe details of threats the Sussexes had received? Which I wouldn't blame him for! Though I imagine such would be germane to the case anyway.

Court judgments are generally handed down to the parties a day or two before they are made public so they can be checked and the parties know whether they will need to prepare arguments about appeals and costs.

The judgments are disclosed on an incredibly strict confidentiality basis - an environmental campaigner was fined for contempt of court last year for disclosing the Heathrow judgment. Harry's legal team have just done the same. Schillings really ought to know better.

The embargoed material was sent to a member of the Sussex PR team, apparently

Is there a source for that, Mumsnut?

As I said on another thread, it's bad enough that a supposedly rapier-minded barrister "didn't fully think", but it would be amazing if she'd been stupid enough to pass details to PR folk at this stage

I thought the barrister was with Blackstones, undermilkjug? Unless it's some sort of partnership with Schillings I guess?

www.blackstonechambers.com/barristers/shaheed-fatima-qc/

www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/prince-harry-e2-80-99s-lawyers-rebuked-by-high-court-judge-for-e2-80-98unacceptable-e2-80-99-ruling-leak/ar-AAVrDG9?ocid=BingNewsSearch

Hopefully the link works

Christ's sake: it sounds like the guy was born into a nightmare family and just wants shot of the whole thing with support. He can hardly get a house in Romford and pop into the local Asda. He needs security.

Harry & Meghan do not want a house in Romford and to pop to the local Asda

Harry needs to pay for security.
there's a difference. He's an ex-working royal and no more entitled to unlimited unquestioned full on royal protection security than any other non working royal

@unspeakableIsUnbearable

Christ's sake: it sounds like the guy was born into a nightmare family and just wants shot of the whole thing with support. He can hardly get a house in Romford and pop into the local Asda. He needs security.

He’s got security . This case is about the process for deciding what level of security he gets. He thinks that he should have been classified as a person of international importance which would mean that he gets his security paid for anywhere in the world. The only people who get this are heads of state and direct heirs, prime minister etc. Harry will get security in the U.K. but the level and type is decided by a committee called I think REVAC , they assess the risk and decide appropriately. He wants to decide himself what he needs and he wants the information provided by Mi6 etc and disclosed to REVAC ( sp) disclosed to him.

He also thinks he can pay for the police to protect him. Only the police will have the necessary intelligence links to uk security services.

Can’t think of any other overseas domiciled British citizen who has the choice of paying the British police to provide security. I don’t think they are for hire.

Surely you can't pay for access to the police and their Intelligence?

Well if Harry can, that does open the door for others

Is it purely for publicity and for their business they'd be visiting the UK? Its not to see family or for 'royal' events is it as from what I've seen they've detached from that. So what other international business/celebrity people would be allowed this access to the police and MI6 etc, the Kardashians, insta or tiktok stars?

I'm intensely relaxed about whether they ever come here again.

So if he doesn't feel,dpsafe, then it's fine tomstaynaway.

Shame they've decided to release the podcasts, that have been waiting on the runway for over a year, in the month of the Jubilee celebrations (that had been announced over a year ago and planned before that). It does suggest to be that he's a bit screwed up about this. Which I think is another reason to stay away, and hopefully over time become less reactive to royal events

Harry will begin to resent Meghan and because he is weak and spoilt, begin to blame her for his estrangement from his family.

I think they will resent each other. I wonder if they were invited to the Oscars. Difficult to guess.

I have a sneaking suspicion that the whole Sussex family will attend the Invictus Games, loads of photos with the kids, hence loads of positive press.

Hmmm...it could go either way though.
He may go alone due to tension with Meghan due to negative feelings around his not attending his Grandfathers memorial servive.

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[quote Puzzledandpissedoff]I thought the barrister was with Blackstones, undermilkjug? Unless it's some sort of partnership with Schillings I guess?

www.blackstonechambers.com/barristers/shaheed-fatima-qc/[/quote]
Schillings are the Sussexes solicitors. For litigation their solicitors will instruct a barristers (or, generally, a team with a QC and one or more juniors) to conduct the actual advocacy work, and then all the lawyers (both barristers and solicitors) will work closely together on the case.

The embargoed draft judgement was sent to an in-house PR adviser who works with Schillings. This was a stupid error (there’s been a few cases about embargoed draft judgements being discussed/circulated recently and the courts have been very critical of the people involved, so they can’t say they wouldn’t have realised they needed to be careful), and one that, understandably, the judges don’t like, but it has no impact on Prince Harry’s actual case.

@Mumsnut

I have a sneaking suspicion that the whole Sussex family will attend the Invictus Games, loads of photos with the kids, hence loads of positive press.

That would be a real smack in the face to the RF which no doubt H and M would welcome, but think it highly unlikely. Harry will go alone and milk it for all it’s worth in terms of publicity. I think the two of them will end up like Wallis and David. Their bitterness and narcissism uniting them against the RF. They bring out the worst in each other unfortunately. The rift will grow wider and wider until Harry hardly matters to any of them any longer. Really sad.