Harry’s podcast

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Carrying on the discussion about Harry’s podcast.

I’m not sure ‘Genetic Pain’ is even a thing, I think he must have meant ‘Generational Pain’. Happy for someone to correct if I’ve got that wrong.

'I love Michelle Obama too. 'When they go low, we go high.'

She's brilliant isn't she, seems formidable but compassionate too.

@Ocsetldil it's funny you should say that, I could totally envisage Harry buying a vineyard and selling his own wine, maybe some of the proceeds going to his own charity so he maintains his "good guy" status. Would the income be enough for him and the lifestyle he wants for his family? Probably not.

I'm struggling with my opinion of Harry at the moment. He used to be my favourite Royal, the cheeky, friendly one who was a man of the people, mixing with competitors at Invictus etc. When he said it was all a show and he hated doing it (not quoted obvs), mixing with the public etc, it really showed him in an unfavourable light. Now we are getting this "gut spilling" from him and the whining and it just appears to be so tone deaf when there are people really suffering with homelessness and displacement and war. There aren't many new parents who don't vow to do things differently to the way their parents did things but the way this has been structured...I feel it's pettiness and back biting because Charles would no longer fund his lifestyle but, you know what mate, you are nearly 40 and old enough to earn your own living, properly, not by slagging off your family.

Is this how it's going to be for the next few years? Harry earning money by selling stories of his "dysfunctional" childhood and family to try and make himself fit into his new society? Is it even an attempt to blackmail Charles into giving in and gifting Harry more money so he doesn't have to "work" in his interviews and tell us more secrets and perceived slights of Royal life.

So many Royals are on the periphery and get on with their careers and lives and maintain their dignity and privacy. Harry can't seem to want to do this. For someone who said they wanted to avoid attention they certainly have a strange way of going about things!

Before anyone thinks he said it was toxic, he didn't. Here is what he said.
"There is no blame. I don't think we should be pointing the finger or blaming anybody, but certainly when it comes to parenting, if I've experienced some form of pain or suffering because of the pain or suffering that perhaps my father or my parents had suffered, I'm going to make sure I break that cycle so that I don't pass it on, basically.'

He then goes on to talk about his Dad and what he went through with his upbringing showing sympathy.

So all of you that say how awful it was, I really don't think so. There is nothing wrong with breaking a cycle.

@mermaidsariel

Why also did this avowed feminist want to be a Duchess? Why does she insist on using the title?

Because without it she is nothing but a box-opener and an actress in a cable programme very few had heard of before her ascendancy.

The more this goes on, the more inclined I am to think that Harry's public image was very carefully managed by the RF for many years.

There is a lot more to the Vegas story than appeared in the mainstream media. That was also managed by the Royal Family. The coverage was the compromise.

The ability to control his public image was diminished once he met Meghan I think, as he had a new handler at that point and no longer listened to the family or their advisors.

I think we are seeing the real Harry. I think at heart he is a good and well intentioned person but he also seems quite self obsessed and impulsive. Every issue he talks about he relates back to himself.

'Is this how it's going to be for the next few years? Harry earning money by selling stories of his "dysfunctional" childhood and family to try and make himself fit into his new society? '

Yes it's going to run and run isn't it. He's like a news of the world editor, what will be his next revelation?!

@Roussette, I think it's a bit naive not to realise that the issue here is how it will be perceived by the rest of the world. Not many people will dispute that it's a common thing to feel your parents could have done things differently and you will change things for your own family.
He must have known and went ahead and broadcast this regardless.

the fact that she was looking for love in London makes me think that she had given up on the a-list dream before her hitting the Harry Jackpot.

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Was she “looking for love in London” or was she maybe just in London when she met him. You make it sound like she was trawling the streets.

When I was training as a therapist one tutor told us about one client who turned up and confessed ‘you are the 17th therapist I’ve seen’ - which means, I haven’t found anyone who will tell me what I want to hear.

Therapists are a dime a dozen in the us so you can always find one that will agree with you (for a price).

The thing with breaking one cycle (which is understandable) is you have to be careful you don’t create a whole new (and equally damaging) one.

So, following this latest very public offering, will we be seeing him over here in July I wonder?

Maybe not (pure speculation!!!).

Instead he might create his own Diana memorial thing in the US. That would be quite clever actually.

'A new handler...'
That's interesting. What do you think we didn't find out about Vegas.
It's miles up the thread but the poster who suggests that in 20 years Archie will be dishing the dirt and theyll be surprised as to where he got the idea says it all.
I want a private life but I'd like to perform at massive stadiums and slag my family off on Oprah. Ffs. I think the saddest part is that William will likely never, ever trust him again.

@SunshineSuxx

I really did hope that after the fiasco with the DM losing the High Court case, the UK media would stick 2 fingers up and do a complete blackout on news from their camp.

Sadly not.

I know that MN is obsessed with its hatred of the DM but I'll let you into a secret, other papers carry similar stories!

Making sure the relatives suffer is more important than future repercussions for Archie.

Precisely so the reverse is true, far from breaking trauma cycles, Harry and Meghan are actually creating new and more damaging ones for Archie.

The fact they can not see that their vendetta is damaging for their child is beyond me, Archie is now saddled with all of their burdens himself in the full global glare of the world. For me, it is most tragic that not once have they considered the full impact this will have on their child, soon to be children. Not once.

Willam and Kate are very clearly breaking the cycle with the upbringing their children are having.

They just manage to do so under the radar.

Harry’s commenting on the First amendment did not go so well. He is definitely not the brightest bulb of the chandelier. Must have been so easy for Meghan.

@CallmeHendricks
It has been very well received in very many places.

Look... he is not wrong, we all know the RF is the equivalent of the Truman show for the direct ascendants. They are a reality show for our benefit, we are spoon fed a diet of what the PR machine wants us to see and hear.
I just think change is long long overdue and this will help towards that change.
We cannot stay stuck in the 60s. Big deal W&K have a YouTube Channel, that isn't going to change anything
As I said.. we could take some lessons from some of the other european royal houses particularly the nordic ones.

Plenty of people have “toxic” families and unhappy childhoods that are far worse than Harry’s. I was reading about a celebrity the other day, whose father was a heron addict and who had some issues with his mother (sorry to be vague, can’t remember all the details) and who said that many of his friends had had similar issues with their parents. I had no idea he had such issues as a youngster because he has never bleated on about it. He is now very successful and happy and has been married for a very long time. But he didn’t decry his upbringing even though it was genuinely difficult. Instead, he took responsibility for his own life and got on with it. He has obviously come to terms with his past without a public slagging off of his family. I don’t think the fact that this is the RF that Harry is decrying is any excuse. They are still human beings.

Prior to the SA trip I quite liked H&M but now they are utterly tedious. They are dripping with unearned privilege but just whinge about their lives from their ridiculous mansion.

My DB was the same age as Harry when we lost our mum in tragic circumstances (medical malpractice). He didn't have a multi million £ trust fund so had to get on with studying, then earning a living, raising a family ... all without the rage and self pity Harry displays every time he's in front of a microphone. Meghan feeds that.

I regret clicking on an article in the Guardian about rape in Tigray.

How about Harry and Princess/Duchess.....quietly actually do something. They could.

@Lockupyourbiscuits

What sort of counsellor would encourage family estrangement . How can such a public discussion of private thoughts as a productive outcome? Is he being encouraged/exploited to do this by people ?

Lots I would imagine. Some families are too toxic for your mental health.

No idea if this applies to the RF though.

Before I get my arse handed to me on a plate, I can't remember which european RF go out to work, but there is one.