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H & M - The Cat, The Barber and the Argyll Pheasant Pluckers

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TheMustressMhor · 22/01/2020 17:13

I hope I've got what everyone wants in the title of this, the twelfth thread in the series.

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Myimaginarycathasfleas · 23/01/2020 16:04

Fellow sherry drinker here, Mustress. It is a very underrated tipple, as long as it's dry.

Cannot abide gin under any circs.

Roussette · 23/01/2020 16:04

It's Roussette but hey I've been called worse Grin

Of course they aren't obliged to engage with anyone but starting threads and continually telling posters on it not to engage with anyone who disagrees with them, in my book, is kinda wrong....

ILearn · 23/01/2020 16:06

HMQ cancelled her annual visit to Sandringham branch of Women's Institute with just 30 minutes' notice because she 'has a cold'. Thanks hope she recovers speedily. This is quite unusual.

PerfPower · 23/01/2020 16:07

Peridito I'm just curious, but if you were at work and a group of your colleagues were discussing last night's programme and assuming a dysfunctional narcissistic family, would you join them and interrupt to tell them they were wrong? Ask them to justify their comments? And keep doing it if they ignored you? Or would you think 'Hmmm, this conversation's not for me' and walk away?

OVienna · 23/01/2020 16:07

7worfs

You would enjoy The Romanovs by Simon Sebag Montefiore if you are interested in the history of Russia and the Russian Royal family. I meant to mention this last night.

Myimaginarycathasfleas · 23/01/2020 16:07

Bet it's a stinker in that case, ILearn, she wouldn't cancel otherwise. Poor HMQ. She needs a tot of whisky and a hot water bottle.

phpolly · 23/01/2020 16:11

Catherine here here

CatherineOfAragonsPrayerBook · 23/01/2020 16:12

I didn't know about him doing the Piers Morgan interview. Why on earth do that & lie in that also? Of course H&M would be angry

I watched that interview and he said nothing that was anything but complimentary. Described M as his Princess said H couldn't make her a princess because she already was one, said he hoped H looked after his daughter.

I think he's been treated in a very high handed way by 2 people who are complaining themselves about the difficulty of dealing with the media (despite having a lot more experience) and one of those people has, it's alleged, deliberately employed her friends to get at her father in the press. Very hypocritical. How can you complain about your father doing a few relatively harmless pap shots of him trying on some suits and ghost him, but then use the same means to intentionally malign his character? Even if he is a hurtful cynical old man, that would still be wrong.

I do think he ought to have 'risen above' but I was ghosted by a close friend out of the blue once and it was like she died. I grieved as I waited for her to call. I cannot imagine him calling and texting and getting no reply week after week..then the allusions to the letter in the press and lies that you faked your heart attack.

It's worth remembering that the lie about him faking his heart attack was repeated everywhere (including here) the tabloids and even, if I remember correctly The Wendy Williams show among others.

I don't think H&M have any right to be angry. H was what so worried he'd lose M that he didn't insist on meeting her father out of common decency let alone the optics? Did he forget his own dysfunctional family dynamic so that he couldn't find it in himself to extend any grace?

This was a totally avoidable situation, there were chances to build bridges that weren't taken imo of course.

peridito · 23/01/2020 16:13

It's been stated many times that some posters are making a concerted effort to have threads deleted . It does seem common on these threads about H&M to state things for no apparent reason but could you either stop saying that or back it up with some substance ?

What are these goading remarks ? The advance search is a handy tool for ppl not wanting to scroll back " do the donkey work "

Some posts are reported ,some are deleted .If a lot are deleted that's because they are not in line with Talk Guidelines ,not because there is a conspiracy .

Have you discussed with MNHQ your belief that there is a group of posters - the SCOLDS - ganging up on you and trying to get the thread deleted ? If so would you care to share their advice with us ?

Andylion · 23/01/2020 16:13

I wonder why Oprah has waited until now to voice her support? Have any other of Meghan's high profile, celebrity friends come out with anything supportive?

SunsetBoulevard3 · 23/01/2020 16:21

I do wonder if M and H have actually seen the interview in Canada.

phpolly · 23/01/2020 16:21

I do think it's possible that FOMs (Friends of Meghan) could be anywhere, including on these threads. It's not at all out of the question. A simple google search by TM (Team Meghan) would turn these up.

NotEverythingIsBlackandWhite · 23/01/2020 16:22

From The Telegraph:
"In one picture, he glares at the camera: he’s only 20 years old, but he already looks at the world through blank and suspicious eyes."
What tosh. I am always struck on a daily basis by how one newspaper prints a picture and describes a RF member as happy while another prints the same picture and describes them in a totally different manner.
The other day pictures of DOC at BP showed Kate smiling but you could see behind the smile that she was tired and/or stressed. The smile was on her lips but didn't reach her eyes. Newspaper said she was happy so they must be right. Hmm

On another point, people talking about TM showing pictures of the young Meghan. If Meghan can retain ownership of a letter she sent to her father then I'm sure he has ownership of photos he took of his daughter. They were lovely photos and the only problem I can see is that they support TM's view of MM's upbringing and their relationship and give lie to some of the things espoused about TM.

Wingedharpy · 23/01/2020 16:25

Oprah was, apparently, asked directly by TMZ (I don't know who that is - could be a rap artist or a TV station), what she thought of H and M's decision and she just answered the question.

SunsetBoulevard3 · 23/01/2020 16:25

@NotEverythingBlackandWhite

I agree. I also think if you have personal experience of someone who is narcissistic the traits stick out a mile.

Myimaginarycathasfleas · 23/01/2020 16:25

I must say, HMQ's WI group sounds quite fun - apparently they did a live Pointless hosted by Alexander Armstrong. Huw Edwards was speaking at this one, he might have been quietly relieved not to have such an illustrious audience member eyeballing him from the front row!

Lunde · 23/01/2020 16:27

I think that Oprah's bff Gail King (who got the R Kelly interview) is hoping to get the "tell all" interview so praising H&M is part of the process

eggandonion · 23/01/2020 16:28

Americans call postgraduate college/university Grad School too.
I didn't see the interview as we can't get channel five (I'm not in the UK). We have a general election, we have forgotten Brexit because of that and Harry and Meghan. Thankfully.
Is there a new Downton type thing happening written by Julian Thingy?

WinnieTheW0rm · 23/01/2020 16:28

"How do people know he paid for school but not university?"

They don't. And the papers lodged for the court proceedings here state that he paid. So claim and counter claim will be tested in court and then it should be clearer

Wingedharpy · 23/01/2020 16:29

HMQ will be having a lie down in a darkened room with a bottle of gin IMHO.

Andylion · 23/01/2020 16:29

Oprah was, apparently, asked directly by TMZ (I don't know who that is - could be a rap artist or a TV station), what she thought of H and M's decision and she just answered the question.

I didn't know that. So Oprah's supportive message wasn't exactly voluntary,

Myimaginarycathasfleas · 23/01/2020 16:29

They were lovely photos and the only problem I can see is that they support TM's view of MM's upbringing and their relationship and give lie to some of the things espoused about TM.

I thought that too, perfectly nice images not very different from what we have seen before. She might not have been so pleased with the hooker type photos but she was playing a role and presumably, like the awful Burger video, she received a fee for them and they are out there for public consumption.

peridito · 23/01/2020 16:31

katie always glad to please someone !

Peridito I'm just curious, but if you were at work and a group of your colleagues were discussing last night's programme and assuming a dysfunctional narcissistic family, would you join them and interrupt to tell them they were wrong? Ask them to justify their comments? And keep doing it if they ignored you? Or would you think 'Hmmm, this conversation's not for me' and walk away

No I wouldn't .And I haven't done so on line either .

So if someone posts a view not in line with others they are "interrupting " ? Is it not acceptable to ask someone to justify their comments ?

Where have I told a poster they are wrong ? Just curious .

As for walking away if I'm ignored - well it depends ,I think in an instance like this on MN where one poster is trying to persuade others not to "engage " I might think mmm does she speak for every poster on MN and carry on .

CatherineOfAragonsPrayerBook · 23/01/2020 16:32

Wasn't GK invited to the baby shower despite not being a friend previously?

Just as O was invited to the wedding despite not being a friend previously.

All with (In my flawed opinion) a view to the future. Unless there's another feasible explanation?

phpolly · 23/01/2020 16:32

HMQ will be having a lie down in a darkened room with a bottle of gin IMHO. I rather hope so.