Does anyone want a thread for people who are happy for Harry and Meghan?

[DaveCoaches]

Just seeing if there’s any interest. I think they have their faults but I think this may turn out to be a good thing long term. Anyone want to join in?

I'm happy for them and honestly think I'm reading different announcements and website, because I don't see any arrogance, disrespect or wanting to have the best of both worlds. In my mind, being in the RF is a duty and by straddling being both private citizens and part time royals it's a compromise on not turning their back on this, but needing to put their own dreams and family first.

But I'm a glass half full person and like to try to see the best in everyone apart from those who write nothing but spite.

I have also written them a letter of support and look forward to getting a reply on their new letterhead. I'm going to frame it and put it in the downstairs loo.

I am looking forward to there being two less sponging royals which seems unlikely as they will most likely keep the titles and money.

I don't think they will be in the press any less, but will be able to influence journalists and pay for good PR in a way that they couldn't as royals. Fair enough if that is what they want, we all have to do what is right for us as individuals.

Surely the RF all have some press contacts and could have put pressure on the press to back off a bit or at least to run some more positive stories. And if the queen or PC had issued a strongly worded statement asking for people to leave Meghan alone in terms of all the anonymous online bullying, that may have given some people pause for thought.

This is what I don't understand. Why the Queen, Charles or William were so silent and didn't make a statement. They make statements when they want to - why not about this.

I don't necessarily want a thread but there is so much breathtaking nastiness about them, including on mumsnet sadly, that I just wanted to say I'm with you in wishing them well.

Not really happy as it doesn’t directly involve me but what is really pissing me off is the abuse and blame she has been receiving. Yes ok they went around it the wrong way perhaps but I don’t believe for a minute it’s all her doing. How hard is it to believe that the precious prince can make his own decisions and has his own mind? People need to stop acting as if she has stolen from them.

What was the text?

Can't remember the exact wording, but it was along the lines of 'great to meet you' or words to that effect.
(MM's text to Piers Morgan 6 years ago which he has dredged up and tweeted. Stalker)

I am so tired of the misogynistic bullshit that is blaming Meghan for the whole thing. Harry has appeared to resent his position for a very long time. He definitely seemed at one of his happiest when he was in the army and living a “normal” life. They don’t want their child to grow up in the same circus and that’s ok.

Piers Morgan is an utter toad and is lauded by idiots for “speaking the truth”. His smear campaign has been absolutely horrific.

Given the awful press MM has received (can't believe a PP saying it was no worse than others who had married in got....) it was never going to get better was it?

I imagine Harry & MM looked at the vitriol, the lies, the ugly words and thought... fuck me, this is just getting worse and worse, let's bugger off while Archie is little and will know no different.

We're all for protecting our families on MN and yet on other ghastly threads this is thought of as so wrong. I know it's what I'd be doing. Harry isn't stupid and all those ridiculous people acting like MM has lured him away, to my mind he's always been strong willed and errs on the side of doing what he wants, this will be no different

Harry has appeared to resent his position for a very long time. He definitely seemed at one of his happiest when he was in the army and living a “normal” life

Absolutely true.

This is quite a fair article. He's not been happy for a while. MM and a new baby and the online bullying, false reporting, was the straw that broke the camel's back

news.sky.com/story/what-happened-to-prince-harry-five-triggers-for-his-royal-exit-11907657

One person on one of the other threads e mailed a journo pretending to be from Meghan's office or something! Raving nutcase.

If you're talking about what happened on the Harry Threads Nr 4/5/6, it was actually a MN member who created an email address with sussex.royal in it, posted it as a joke and was actually emailed BY a journo thinking she was a real representative for them. Please get facts straight as this is how easily fake news starts.

If this is actually referring to a different case where a member emailed press then apologies in advance.

For those going on about the press I refer to my comments on page 2.

If I knew them then maybe I'd be happy for them but as it stands we have no idea what has gone on behind closed doors to know if it's right for them or not do we?

I honestly can't understand how some people are so emotionally invested in this as though it's their own family!
I've seen some truly insane comments on here and other social media platforms of people talking as if their opinion is fact. Its like people know them personally or have inside information on the details that led to this choice - who fucking cates?! Who has that much time to be outraged by a couples perfectly reasonable choice to leave abuse, harassment and obligation they never asked for behind?

All this crap about Megan being manipulative and spoilt - how can anyone possibly know that unless you know HER. It's speculation.

I'm neither happy or unhappy about their choice because it won't affect me or my life. But I would never pass judgement on it either. I wish them well.

What makes them think that the attention they get will be any more positive just because they are relocating?

I doubt that they think UK media coverage will improve and I doubt that is their goal, but perhaps for their mental health, they prefer to be in North America, where there does not exist a tabloid culture as there does in the UK. I think they perceive that there is a generally more hospitable environment in Canada and in the US. Certainly media coverage, even some of the questioning regarding security expenses in the Canadian press, have been more sympathetic than in the UK, and US press coverage has been quite sympathetic.

If you're talking about what happened on the Harry Threads Nr 4/5/6, it was actually a MN member who created an email address with sussex.royal in it, posted it as a joke and was actually emailed BY a journo thinking she was a real representative for them. Please get facts straight as this is how easily fake news starts.

So someone decided to, in their spare time, create a fake email address pretending to be someone that they don't know and never will. Then went on a forum and told everyone about it?

Even without taking the next step of contacting a journalist that seems quite bizarre behaviour to me.

perhaps for their mental health, they prefer to be in North America, where there does not exist a tabloid culture as there does in the UK. I think they perceive that there is a generally more hospitable environment in Canada

Yes. Our tabloid culture is really vicious and backwards. It's got to change.

I think the situation has been milked dry and it's time for the constant bitching to stop, 70p per year in tax seems to give folk a licence to be nasty arses and it is vile

Is the more favourable US coverage led by the NYT?
I am led to believe it has a very anti British stance?

I think they could have gone about it better, but I support them, the vitriol has been too much. You only get one life, no need to carry on being unhappy.

Hi @DaveCoaches,
Thank you for starting this thread, I have looked at the titles for other Harry & Meghan threads and haven't even looked any further because I'm pretty sure it will be full of poisonous comments.
I like both H & MM, I think they both want to do good, help lots of charities and spread a positive message.
I think they have handled some things badly in particular the announcement which should have been thoroughly discussed with the Queen & senior royals first and coordinated better. A plan should have been agreed first.
I can understand why some people are against them. Having an expensive public wedding and then extensive renovations to their home, but then not long after making this decision. They haven't handled things particularly well. But we all make mistakes.
IMO it is not all down to MM at all, Harry is against the press and understandably so with what happened to his mother. From what I can tell he has always found it difficult to be in the royal family and really just wanted a relatively normal life and career but he also wanted to do good things for those in need.
MM does not deserve the vile comments she has received. I don't think for one minute she is the driving force behind this decision, they have made it together for the good of their mental health and for their lovely baby's future.
I hope they can make their wish to be financially independent very soon. But also think they need to pay back any tax payers money spent to make it fair and also so that this cannot be thrown at them all the time.
I think that MM being mixed race has finally brought the royal family some much needed diversity. But the royal advisors most likely have no idea how to move with modern times, that's my feeling. The royal family needs to modernise if it is to survive.
My concern is that moving forward H & MM will have more problems with press intrusion and a backlash sadly.
So after all my ramblings, yes I am happy for them and I wish Harry, Meghan and Archie all the very best for the future.

It's no wonder the couple want to get away as the media is foul and I hope nobody ever tears apart a member of my family like they and online forums have done because I would want retribution especially if my dd was a target for the vultures, I think lawsuits will multiply and rightly so, There's only so much folk will take before seeking retribution.

posted it as a joke and was actually emailed BY a journo thinking she was a real representative for them

I will check but how did the journo find the e mail address in the first place? Bloody odd thing to do anyway.

I'm proud (not my business but there only writes I can think of) that they aren't staying when they've been treated so badly, good on Meghan especially.

I care as much for Harry and Meghan as they would care for me.
So that's a no!

@Sunnytimesahead
Totally agree with your post