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Does anyone want a thread for people who are happy for Harry and Meghan?

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DaveCoaches · 17/01/2020 13:40

Just seeing if there’s any interest. I think they have their faults but I think this may turn out to be a good thing long term. Anyone want to join in?

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PortiaCastis · 17/01/2020 21:11

“And if you insist on continuing to make assumptions about my character, I’ll advise you only this: assume you will always be wrong.”
― Tahereh Mafi, Ignite Me
Spot on!

TeaAddict235 · 17/01/2020 21:37

@EdithWeston MNHQ like to be aligned with educated liberal lefties like the guardian readers, but in reality they have a thought process which aligns strongly with the right wing Telegraph stance. Evidence is seen repeatedly in which threads are pulled and which are allowed to thrive, when they comment and when not.

DaveCoaches · 18/01/2020 13:14

Bloody hell Starbucks!

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StarbucksSmarterSister · 18/01/2020 13:23

What I find really interesting is that it started with the wedding , when supposedly the whole country thought she was wonderful.

PortiaCastis · 18/01/2020 13:54

Well countless MM threads have been deleted on this site through racism so as the woman has hardly said a word and the vultures are scavenging on a wisp of her hair I can only conclude racism has to be an element to the endless let's destroy Meghan and just tear her apart and pick her bones media and online bitching

Soffy · 18/01/2020 13:55

I wish them well too.

It makes sense to me as Meghan gave up her life to be with Harry. I assume he wanted a way out as well. So it's no surprise that they want to move to Canada. Who knows what treatment shes had by the RF as well? Good luck to them.

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PuttingouttheFirewithGasoline · 18/01/2020 14:30

I don't personally want this thread no... However I am happy for them and I can't see the issue.

I dislike the vicious tendency to jump on people vowing they will drain this and that before details are thrashed out.
I wish them the very best and hope Harry can have a good life after what he's been through. Good on them.

I don't feel the vitriol towards Megan has race base at, all. But she has been utterly slaughtered in the press.
Why do members of the public take it to heart?

PuttingouttheFirewithGasoline · 18/01/2020 14:33

Tea? Educated Liberal lefties? As appose too...

I think the term Liberal lefties has been turned on its head in the recent times. And especially those on here proclaiming to be Liberal and lefty have Been the most rigid, painfully narrow minded nasty posters one is glad they are on line!!

edgewater · 18/01/2020 14:36

Best of luck to them. I hope they are happy.

MN has certainly been just as bad, if not worse than the Daily Mail. Some comments have been utterly vile. From people who don’t know and have never met either Harry or Meghan. I’ve been extremely disappointed at MNHQ in allowing much of what has been posted to remain.

PuttingouttheFirewithGasoline · 18/01/2020 14:39

Re the issues with Kate and William I wonder if one aspect might be that Kate has this incredibly strong united family unit, her mum, dad, sister and brother. She had all of them to help and talk to when her babies were born.

Megan has only had her mum, so perhaps if help or offers of kindness were in short supply from Kate to Megan maybe it's just because Kate had no idea?
I imagine Megan felt very isolated, and very sad re her family... And perhaps William and Kate were not as welcoming.... I can see how perhaps she was perhaps not intentionally just not given the support she needed?

Womenwotlunch · 18/01/2020 14:45

Piers Morgan’s obsession with Meghan is scary to say the least.
If I was his wife , I would be embarrassed tbh
He is vile and I think that some of his behaviour is tantamount to harassment.
He wants to destroy Meghan and Harry’s marriage and is probably annoyed that they have gone to live in North America .
Good luck to Harry and Meghan. Shame that they have to leave,

PuttingouttheFirewithGasoline · 18/01/2020 14:47

Women I agree.

I've actually warmed to piers over the years however its beyond the pale. He's obsessed isn't he.

slipperywhensparticus · 18/01/2020 14:52

I think the lack of movement to bring the press to heel has been calculated sort of like you can leave and this is what you will get

I'm in the fence personally I'm glad he is staying with the Africa charity that is very harry and totally seems to be his happy place

I have no opinion on Meghan good or bad 🤷‍♀️

SenecaFalls · 18/01/2020 14:56

MN has certainly been just as bad, if not worse than the Daily Mail.

I came close to de-registering a few days ago because of some of the comments that have been allowed to stand on those other threads. And I do feel that some of it is fuelled by racism, even if not stated. What else could possibly account for it? Because she's American perhaps? I think that plays a role, too. And I'm American. And the misogyny, which is much more overt, on a forum for women is particularly sad. I just don't want to be part of a community that harbors that kind of hatred.

But then this thread came along and it has helped me decide to stay, at least for now. I'm trying to convince myself that it is only a small portion of MN that have gone down that hate-filled route because I know elsewhere on MN kinder hearts prevail.

TeetotalKoala · 18/01/2020 14:57

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I’m pretty ambivalent towards the whole thing, but think the treatment of Meghan in the press is appalling and the level of vitriol towards her on some of the threads here is just as bad.
The way I see it is a couple want to break free of the confines of a family business that they had no say in joining, and try something different.
Meghan seems intelligent, ambitious and cares for her husband and child, traits I am sure most people would encourage, but for her seems to be attracting criticism.

Basically all of this. I remember reading the statement from the Queen where saw said that they would have preferred them to stay as FT Royals and thinking 'I'm sure you would, but that's not really your decision is it?'.

Harry has said in the past that he's considered leaving The Firm, but that he was persuaded to stay by his grandmother. He's now with someone who supports him so feels that he can take that step. I imagine their six week break in Canada was the crux of it. That they've got a feel for what life could be like. Lots of people emigrate. He shouldn't have to stay here just because of where he was born and to what family. Can you imagine anyone else being told that. There'd be cries of 'your family is controlling as hell!! Go LC and get the hell out'.

I do believe that they shouldn't have their security paid for by the public though. I couldn't give a crap if Charles pays for it through the Duchy pot, that's his prerogative.

The York sisters work and live their lives with a little more freedom, just popping up for whole family big events. I imagine that's the input level they're going for.

Topseyt · 18/01/2020 15:28

With regard to not bringing the press to heel, I think that the royal family are often a very stiff upper lip and conservative (small c) type of institution. They rarely comment publicly on the news stories, good or bad.

The danger with this sort of approach is that it can come across as cold, aloof and unsupportive of a new member such as Meghan. The stiff upper lip approach (perhaps even applied to the blatant racism shown in the press and on social media) clearly wasn't going to work there. Things were going from bad to worse and nobody even seemed to be trying to help. Meghan (and Harry too) must have felt totally unsupported.

I thought the Queen's statement that she would have preferred them to have remained full time working royals did perhaps indicate that the senior royals really didn't get what the couple were going through, and were disconnected from the reality of it all.

Samcro · 18/01/2020 15:28

So glad that this thread is still live.
It really is good to see nice posts. I do think that people don't have to agree about liking someone, but there is a difference between, ohi donot like someone, and ripping them toshreads abd making stuff up about them, i am not a fan of will and kate, but I refuse to jump on the slag the royals off band wagon.
Andrew of course is different.

PortiaCastis · 18/01/2020 15:28

Excellent post Seneca Falls and very measured, I agree with you and I have a friend who is also thinking of de-registering because of the mysogynistic hateful posts that are allowed to stand, all I can say is where do people have the time to post that shit day in day out and they're not covering themselves in glory are they?
My Grandmother always used to say don't dish it out if you can't take it back so I think a lot of the haters would be in tears if the vile vitriol was directed back at them.
It's no wonder Harry and his wife and baby are going, anybody would with that level of nastiness spewed at them.
Anyway I'm off to go and stand in the cold and watch my fiancée play rugby now as I need some fresh air

edgewater · 18/01/2020 18:57

It seems they are no longer HRH and will repay the money spent on Frogmore Cottage. No more public money either.

If everyone who made a nasty comment on here and in the press had just waited. I really feel for the couple. They never stood a chance.

edgewater · 18/01/2020 19:33

No longer using HRH. Missed a vital word.

pallisers · 18/01/2020 19:44

I have been quite disturbed by the vitriol on some threads and despite protests to the contrary, undoubtedly some posts have contained dogwhistle veiled racism and overt misogyny.

Yes and add anti-americanism which is rife and never challenged by admin on MN(and also agree very much with SenecaFalls). I also reported some threads and got some pap back from MN that they were dealing with it. They weren't. A named woman who is a new mother has been subject to utterly vile false malicious vitriol in thread after thread, women hoping they will be divorced and hoping she will on her own then. Tbh I'm concerned about the mental health of women who feel the compulsion to do this. Downright weird and worrying.

I think he had a shit childhood (imagine being told your mother had given an interview about your father's infidelity and walking back into your classroom) culminating in the death of his mother and that horrific, cruel and inhumane forced march behind her coffin - only to save the monarchy from further bad press.

I honestly believe that the same kind of person who was baying for that and had their false sentimentality satisfied by the sight are the same people who are now howling at him marrying her/leaving UK.

The entire royal family is incomprehensible to me (not british) but the mob is even more so.

I certainly wish them well.

DaveCoaches · 18/01/2020 20:38

will repay the money spent on Frogmore Cottage

No doubt the Mail will find a way to put a negative slant on this.

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TossACoinToYourWitcher · 18/01/2020 21:03

www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ellievhall/meghan-markle-kate-middleton-double-standards-royal

I think this is very telling. A side by side comparison of headlines for Kate Vs Meghan. No wonder they feel hounded.

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