Harry and Meghan resigning Act 5 *MNHQ edited title*

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I’m not the original OP of the series. That credit must go to @TheMustressMhor
I just stepped in when the last thread filled up with no replacement

There is still an appetite for discussion / gossip depending on your POV.
I asked for MN to put it in the Royal Family topic as the subject is no longer headline news; but still ticking along. I think those people who are interested will find it and add their comments regardless of its location.

She obvs wanted to portray the lovely innocent daughter with a lovely family.

She now wants to portray the opposite!

I remember reading, pre-Harry, comments by MM about how great her Dad was and how supportive he was.

That’s not to say he may not also be screwed up, manipulative and a bad father in many ways. It may have taken a while for MM to realise that, as it often does for those with toxic parents. But she absolutely used to rave about how supportive and empowering he was.

I'm pretty sure I read it before Spinney - when she and her Dad first had no contact. That so much can change in 5 years!

I am loving these threads, don’t get me wrong, but I do think it’s in rather poor taste to be discussing whether MM is in perimenopause based on sweat patches under her arms.

Canadian here, I think @SeperatedSwans it spot on. We, English Canada (French Canada is a completely different story), like the occasional visit and accept that the Queen is the head of state in weird ceremonial way, but that's about it. The RF has no role in our society. I will be very upset if the government agrees to cover any of the costs related to H&M. I've read that security could cost anywhere between $2 million to $10 million, I guess it will be somewhere in between. It offends me that there is even a discussion about this. Beyond not wanting my tax dollars to be spent on this, Indigenous Canadians were completely screwed over by colonization which has only recently been acknowledged. I think it would be fair to say that the optics of spending millions of dollars on the grandson of the Queen when there are First Nations without potable water, uninhabitable houses and inferior health and educational services would not be good.

To be clear... I was never discussing sweat patches! I didn't mention them.

Just backing up a poster who said peri menopause could start at 40, which it totally can. And does.

Slight derail but going back to menopause, the trend is to look at your mother's age of when she went through it and your likely to be roughly the same age she was, my mum was 59 MIL was 44, so It does vary quite a bit, another useful tool I found from Zita West was to find out your mother's menopause age, minus 10 years and that is when your fertility is seriously compromised, so going by that my fertility dropped off at 49 and SILs at 34, so it's not impossible for Meghan to be any of these senarios.

Whilst I'd love Harry's (ex)friends to take the opportunity to stage an intervention, the best we could probably hope for is that the physical distance and time difference allows him some space for reflection.

That blind gossip article had more than a ring of truth to it and they've been on the button with other things. If it is accurate, it seems the RF are only doing what they can to protect their son/grandson. It must be very difficult to sit back and watch a loved family member lash out and make what you think is a monumentally terrible decision. I don't envy any of them that, nevermind having it play out in front of the whole country.

I remember reading around the wedding about how affectionately MM had written about her father previously, and how it jarred with the narrative that they were putting out at that time. I think he made one bad decision with the pap shots, and then compounded it with other terrible choices trying to defend himself. It could have been completely avoided if he had been taken in hand at an early stage and "helped" with advice about approaches from and dealing with the press. And that's on the RF as well as MM.

I am loving these threads, don’t get me wrong, but I do think it’s in rather poor taste to be discussing whether MM is in perimenopause based on sweat patches under her arms.

Agreed.

Also, to be honest, I am sick of peri and actual menopause being a taboo and shameful subject, it is a totally normal process that most women start to go through in their 40's.

It is a fact of life.

I didn't see these sweat patches. I didn't make reference to MM, I was directing PP's to the menopause board

BettyBooJustDoinTheDoo - Re the house situation I’m sure I read that Charles wanted to gift them a country estate after they were married but they refused as neither of them had any interest in running one.

I really couldn't see them farming out in the sticks

I thought that they would want a chic country home in Oxfordshire or the Cotswolds (where they rented briefly) - much nearer to their celeb pals such as the Clooneys, fashion designers and useful media moguls

I think they may have regretted leaving London for Windsor - if they didn't want to stay in KP they could probably have got an apartment in StJP - where many royals have London apartments

I hear MM shot Shergar.

Spinney Jesus if that is a direct quote...I really wonder what the truth is here. How bizarre.

I agree Lunde running a country estate is not really their style, according to this snippet back in September it was what Charles wanted for them and he had earmarked some land to create it. Another snippet I heard was that when Charles became King they would get Frogmore House itself.

Anyone been reading or following Toronto Paper on twitter? Some of the tweets are quite cryptic but very interesting! I think it's someone from Meghans past who she's pissed off or ghosted.

So glad their eye did not light upon Australia as their next home. Think they would get short shrift here.
Has anyone asked if the Queen is OK?

Harry will be sat in with his uncle Andy ordering in a Pizza Express, he’s friendless after cutting them off, unable to speak to family because he feels a twat, and trying to reach Woko but keeps getting a redirect to her LA pr rep.

@Teddy1970 AnnWill67 seems to know stuff too....

Or not I think tying her into Epstein is a bit of a stretch

She was pouring with sweat in Canada house, and I thought ‘hot flash’. She could be perimenopausal

Given what came later in the day Im not surprised she was sweating.

Morning all, I hope you are all OK?

A thought occurred to me re: Thomas Markle
I think Meghan may go for a “reunion” with her Dad. She’ll introduce him to Archie. It’s the only way of stopping him testifying for the MOS.
At the moment he has nothing to lose as she has completely ghosted him.

It’s also part of the narc repertoire to reel someone in after the discard stage; to get more “fuel”
Narc fuel

narc coming back after a discard

Meghan will Keep her Dad on side long enough for the MoS case to collapse. (He’s not going to risk alienating his daughter and not see Archie again by testifying) but she will dump him again

Thanks for the feedback re: Canada and Royals taking up permanent residence.

So in a nutshell Harry cannot live there, and neither can Meghan if she keeps her title.
So that just leaves California; where Meghan has vowed not to live whilst Trump is still president. ( definitely not a trump fan here, but I think that is another miscalculation on Meghan’s part. I think she’s got a 5 year wait)

Harry will be back in England. Or more accurately not leave.
Just leaves the question of getting Archie back...

I wonder if the Queen will invoke that 300 year old law of the Monarch having custody of minor royal children. Highly unlikely.

However I think The Hague convention and habitual residence will have a bearing on Archie’s situation.

A bit more about the hideaway on Vancouver island

Meghan was doing the rounds yesterday:

New photos of a beaming Meghan visiting the Justice for Girls group in Canada yesterday have been posted online, where she discussed climate justice for women and the rights of Indigenous people. The Duchess of Sussex previously visited the Downtown Eastside Women's Center in Vancouver on the same day.

According to the website of Justice for Girls, climate change is an 'urgent human rights matter' that it says disproportionately affects girls, particularly Indigenous girls.

The group adds that climate change is a threat to the lives and cultural rights of these girls and the charity is campaigning to stop the continued use and development of fossil fuels.

Zoe Craig-Sparrow, Co-Director at Justice for Girls, said they were honored to have Meghan join them.

'The Duchess met with our Co-Directors as well as representatives from our Board of Directors and staff. The Duchess put everyone at ease and had a really engaged discussion with us for 90 minutes about our work and the rights of teenage girls who live in poverty. We were honored that she chose to have this conversation with us and is interested in the work we do.'

Curly, the linked article wonders if she’s returned to the island from her trip to Vancouver - I highly doubt it. There’s an extreme windstorm on tonight and I can’t see flights running during it. Not that she’d catch a ferry with us plebs, but those were cancelled earlier.