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Harry and Meghan resigning Act 5 *MNHQ edited title*

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CurlyWurlyTwirly · 15/01/2020 09:41

Previous thread

I’m not the original OP of the series. That credit must go to @TheMustressMhor
I just stepped in when the last thread filled up with no replacement

There is still an appetite for discussion / gossip depending on your POV.
I asked for MN to put it in the Royal Family topic as the subject is no longer headline news; but still ticking along. I think those people who are interested will find it and add their comments regardless of its location.

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NotEverythingIsBlackandWhite · 16/01/2020 11:25

What do you think Harry untimately want?

I think he wants:

  1. A happy family life (wife, children).
  2. A sense of purpose.
  3. Status - to be held in high regard by the public.
  4. To follow in his mum's footsteps in respect of projects that were dear to her heart.
  5. To only do things he wants to do.
  6. To have no restrictions and constraints on him.
  7. To have limitless finances.
  8. For everyone else to have no criticism of him.
  9. To be more popular, happy, revered, well-off than William (as payback for Wiliam having the misfortune to have been born in the position of being heir to the throne while he has lacked direction in life).

OR
He could want what Meghan tells him he wants.

NotEverythingIsBlackandWhite · 16/01/2020 11:29

Harry's just off inside BP for the Rugby teams draw so I expect we might see DOS again this arvo brightening up someone else's day.

ajandjjmum · 16/01/2020 11:38

DOS is quite an appropriate acronym for what they want, don't you think? Grin

NotEverythingIsBlackandWhite · 16/01/2020 11:38

Incidentally, I can't see any future engagements for HMQ, PC and PW on the royals' website yet Princess Anne has plenty planned and Earl of Wessex has quite a few. Even the Duke of Glouester and Countess of Wessex have a couple.

Any idea why? I put in an end date of 30 June 2020 (although they are usually only listed 8 weeks in advance). Do HMQ, PC and PW really have so little planned in the way of royal duties?

NotEverythingIsBlackandWhite · 16/01/2020 11:40

DOS is quite an appropriate acronym for what they want, don't you think?

Yep.Grin

UnmentionedElephantDildo · 16/01/2020 11:59

HMQ does very few public engagements now, so that's not a surprise.

Prince of Wales and the Cambridges engagements are announced only shortly before they happen (security), and PoW in particular has loads of boring but- important audiences with worthy figures that often aren't nnounced but will be reported on in court circulars idc. But perhaps it is the case that they have just a gap in appearances?

PoW did 521 last year (more than Princess Royal). I have no idea if they were evenly distributed or if feastfamine is the norm

WineOrGinOrBoth · 16/01/2020 12:08

A relative meets up regularly with PC for discussions that never feature in court circulars so I imagine there’s stuff that happens behind the avenues. Relative has never disclosed what happens at these meetings spoilsport

Albatross123 · 16/01/2020 13:46

To counteract any mis-information on here about the unclaimed funds from deceased estates, this is a quote from the website of a well-known firm of solicitors. The funds do not go to PC or the Queen personally but to their charities:

"But what of the unclaimed money that does pass to HM Treasury? Or to the Duchies of Lancaster and Cornwall? The usual time limit for a relative to make a claim is 12 years, but this can be extended to 30 years at the discretion of the BVD.

At the end of this time period, if the estate passes to the Treasury, then the money is collected by the chancellor and used towards reducing the national debt. If you happen to live in Lancashire or Cornwall then the money is given to charity – in Lancashire the money passes to the Duchy of Lancaster Jubilee Trust Fund and in Cornwall it passes to the Duke of Cornwall Benevolent Fund.

So, if it has not always been your desire for your estate to go towards paying off the national debt, then perhaps it’s time you started to think about writing a will.

OutwiththeOutCrowd · 16/01/2020 15:31

Looking at the photos of Meghan carrying on with business as usual - except in comfier clothing - I feel as if I have fallen down a rabbit hole with her. There appears to be no context or infrastructure to make what I am seeing actually real.

I am reminded of:

‘Well! I've often seen a cat without a grin,' thought Alice
'but a grin without a cat! It's the most curious thing i ever saw in my life!’

But perhaps if the grin persists for long enough, somehow or other the rest of the cat will materialise around it and the wished-for reality will be established by sheer force of will.

I do not doubt that Meghan is tenacious and that she can push an agenda forward. But overall I think that both Meghan and Harry have been trying to stuff the wrong things into their suitcases and the agenda, therefore, is compromised and ill-defined.

Holding onto the titles. The Commonwealth tour gigs. The money from Harry’s Dad’s biscuit business. The keys to Frogmore. It all just looks grabby.

On the other hand, I don’t think anyone would begrudge Harry taking Invictus with him, or for that matter, Sentebale. And Meghan’s work to help the Grenfell community was imaginative and provides a template worth keeping for later use.

It strikes me that the last lines of the Invictus poem:

It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishments the scroll,
I am the master of my fate,
I am the captain of my soul

seem to sum up the spirit of what Harry and Meghan are currently trying to do. It could be their defining credo, for themselves and for their work.

To reflect this, the remit of Invictus could be broadened. Turn it into an umbrella organisation to help people overcome adversity and take back control of their lives. (And quietly ditch Sussex Royal and the whole confusing royal-but-not-royal schtick!)

The Invictus Games could be one branch. Then there could be Invictus Women. And Invictus Communities. The established working model of the Hubb Community Kitchen could, for example, be copied to help displaced persons elsewhere with more Meghan-championed cookbooks and other fund-raising initiatives.

I also feel Harry needs to revert to Action Man mode pronto. Padding around in his bare feet giving woke speeches to the global elite just isn’t him. Get some huskies and a sled, Harry. Or at least sign up to fly helicopters for an air ambulance charity in Canada and turn up the derring-do dial.

Finally, if the two of them do make it to LA, Meghan could just go with the surreal madness of it all. She could start up a production company to make a show called The Royal Apprentices.

A vacancy has arisen in the Firm. Do you have what it takes to move to merry olde England and join the Windsors?

There must surely be a bunch of anglophile couples out there who like sipping tea, have delusions of grandeur and are just waiting for such an opportunity.

Meghan could build bridges with her Dad too. He could take care of lighting for the show and/or share babysitting duties with Doria. Meghan could hire/fire, Harry could take on the Nick/Margaret role and the Queen could make a guest appearance. (If she can parachute into the Olympics, anything is possible.)

It would be family therapy and a dosh-making opportunity all rolled into one. And it would certainly out-Trump Trump - infinitely more satisfying than simply avoiding him.

So, there you are, Meghan and Harry, why pay for dodgy advice from PR people when you can have my (increasingly) dodgy advice for free!

ajandjjmum · 16/01/2020 15:43

Your advice might be great - but will it rack up the dollars for them? I suppose it depends what their true motivation is. Hmm

SunsetBoulevard3 · 16/01/2020 15:57

@OutwiththeOutCrowd
That post is absolutely great. It had me enthralled , amused and engaged. You should post that on their Instagram!

peridito · 16/01/2020 15:58

all profits from Duchy Orginals go to charities .

SunsetBoulevard3 · 16/01/2020 16:01

And I’ve just noticed the next thread has been running since this morning!!

SingingLily · 16/01/2020 16:08

You need to head on over...

Are you all OK on here, by the way?

SunsetBoulevard3 · 16/01/2020 16:12

Thanks for asking, you’re the first person who has asked me that today...

SingingLily · 16/01/2020 16:12

Here's the link again, everyone.

Harry and Meghan resigning Act 6: Harry’s first public Appearance since The Announcement
http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/theroyall_family/3796841-Harry-and-Meghan-resigning-Act-6-Harry-s-first-public-Appearance-since-The-Announcement

SingingLily · 16/01/2020 16:13

My pleasure, Sunset.

No one asked me until I donned my alter ego.

Grin
WineOrGinOrBoth · 16/01/2020 17:33

Signing off from this thread. I hope everyone is OK. Wink

Lordfrontpaw · 16/01/2020 17:53

No one ever asks me if I’m ok... and I’ve been invited to a friends child’s birthday party - on my birthday - which was completely forgotten last year (and it was a big one).

Sigh... I‘ve got to play nice haven’t I? Pretend not to care when everyone realises in the day ‘oh goodness, is it today? Oh well I must’ve forgotten it was my birthday, that’s how much I care (that everyone has forgotten my birthday again)...’

Wish I was a bloody princess (I’d put people in The Tower....

Lordfrontpaw · 16/01/2020 17:54

(And the birthday girls birthday isn’t on that day - it’s about two weeks before...)

Myimaginarycathasfleas · 16/01/2020 18:28

No @Lordfrontpaw, you do not have to conceal that it's your birthday, far from it! Go and get yourself a "Birthday Girl" badge and wear it proudly to the party. Demand an extra slice of cake.Grin

Lordfrontpaw · 16/01/2020 18:33

This year I’m just going to march in and pretend it’s my birthday celebration (open all the presents and ask why there are so few candles on the cake etc).

AcrossthePond55 · 16/01/2020 18:37

Perhaps we should end the thread with this:

www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/immigrate-canada.html

AcrossthePond55 · 16/01/2020 18:42

Or this:

onlineservices-servicesenligne.cic.gc.ca/c2c/eapp.do

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