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Heartache after saying goodbye-support thread 2

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Helplessandheartbroke · 05/03/2024 20:05

Second support thread for fellow MNers suffering the loss of a fury friend. I lost my boy in December and I'm truly heartbroken 💔

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Zandra123 · 05/03/2024 20:45

Hello, thank you for the new thread.

I went to a lovely place I'd not been before yesterday for a walk, kept thinking he'd have loved it here!

Helplessandheartbroke · 05/03/2024 21:44

Hey @Zandra123 thank you for joining. It's hard being out without them isn't it! We visited a large park we took ddog too occasionally last week and all I could think was how he should be with us. Hope you're ok this evening, I'm not sleep well at all so going to try for an early night x

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Iheartmysmart · 05/03/2024 22:00

Hello! Thanks for starting the new thread @Helplessandheartbroke

How are you doing? I’m sorry I didn’t get round to catching up on the final few pages of the last one. Where is time going at the moment!

I took a huge step today and applied to rehome another dog! It’s been nearly six months since I lost my old boy, still not sure if I’m ready but if it’s meant to be then it’ll happen.

Helplessandheartbroke · 05/03/2024 22:10

Hey @Iheartmysmart was just logging off for the night but saw your notification. Thank you for joining. Please tell us about your new friend to be! You do need a camping buddy for the summer x

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Iheartmysmart · 05/03/2024 22:15

@Helplessandheartbroke She’s a little cross breed, just under a year old and very cute. I expect there will be lots of interest so not getting my hopes up.

Now go and have your early night! I hope you manage to have a decent sleep x

Helplessandheartbroke · 06/03/2024 07:44

@Iheartmysmart is she a rescue?

Ds was up from 3.20 until 6.30am so not a great night 😕

Hope everyone has a good day x

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Iheartmysmart · 06/03/2024 07:50

Oh no! @Helplessandheartbroke Poor you, that’s rubbish. Being exhausted makes everything feel 10 times worse as well doesn’t it. Have you got a busy day or will you be able to get some rest later?

She is a rescue. I’ll keep you updated on any progress. x

Helplessandheartbroke · 06/03/2024 09:20

@Iheartmysmart no rest for the wicked! I'm working until 1.30, then mothers day stay and play at ds nursery, then back home to do more work! It definitely hasn't helped having no sleep, that's when I tend to overthink more.

Aww I hope you get her! Can just imagine yous camping together in the summer and her being spoilt x

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Iheartmysmart · 06/03/2024 10:11

Oh gosh, poor you! Sending lots of positive thoughts and some 💐to help you get through the day!

MumOfHals · 06/03/2024 17:12

I lost my beautiful Westie boy he 17.5 years old, the week before Christmas. I was 20 weeks pregnant at the time and the heart break was like no other. I got him for my 10th birthday and lost him when I was 27.5. I don't remember life before him and I am still struggling

I cried many of tears of heartbreak and worries on his coat and I feel like he also holds a lot of my secrets ❤️ they really do cause the most heart break. I miss my Louie so much xx

Photo of him x

Heartache after saying goodbye-support thread 2
Helplessandheartbroke · 06/03/2024 17:29

@MumOfHals I'm so sorry for your loss. 17th Dec for me and I miss him so much. Your boy was gorgeous! Thank you for sharing. Was it old age? Whens you're due date? It must be something...

@Iheartmysmart just had my little cry I think I needed. Hope you're ok x

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CeciledeVolangesdeNouveau · 06/03/2024 17:34

Hi everyone,

I'm really sorry, this isn't going to be huge on the emotional support back but if/when I have more to call upon I promise there will be. Kind people have been asking though, so here's an update:

I'm either on my last few hours or final night of this hospital stay. Unfortunately there hasn't been any help forthcoming on medical, psychological or situational grounds. In Velvet terms I've been missing her and the only good thing about having to go back to my parents' is the prospect of seeing her, which I know the rest of you aren't lucky enough to have the chance to. It has been difficult tossing up being really afraid and upset about setting foot back there but also knowing that even if it's for a couple of weeks I won't see her again otherwise. I'm not sure if she'll be allowed to or want to come in or near my room, though, but if she does I'll share some Velvet love with you all. Thank you for thinking of me. Loads of love to all of you out there.

MumOfHals · 06/03/2024 18:35

Helplessandheartbroke · 06/03/2024 17:29

@MumOfHals I'm so sorry for your loss. 17th Dec for me and I miss him so much. Your boy was gorgeous! Thank you for sharing. Was it old age? Whens you're due date? It must be something...

@Iheartmysmart just had my little cry I think I needed. Hope you're ok x

We lost Louie on the 12th December. Still isn't any easier💔 so sorry for the loss of your furbaby too... it's my first furbaby loss and I didn't realise how much it would hurt.

He was very old & he started to collapse / walk into walls, they think maybe a stroke or a brain tumour - but he was too old for anaesthetic for the scan & also he wouldn't have been strong enough for any treatment.

Thanks sweetie. I'm due in May. 30 weeks now xx

Helplessandheartbroke · 06/03/2024 19:15

@MumOfHals I meant soon not something sorry! Not long now them! I hope you're ok as I know how both grief and pregnancy bring on a wave of emotions so you'll be feeling it from all angles bless you! My boy would have been 7 in a fortnight. As it happened he wasn't so young for his breed. He only had 1 eye due to glaucoma and his other eye went. So we had a choice of removing his last eye to stop the pain or pts. It was am agonising decision to make and a lot of self blame its been torture. I had ocd too so overthinking everything.

@CeciledeVolangesdeNouveau thank you so much for joining. I didn't realise you were in hospital, was this a planned stay? I'm sorry you're again not getting the right support. What happened with your dp? Do you have somewhere lined up to stay away from your parents? I hope you get lots of velvet cuddles tomorrow. I've pm'd you my number if you need a private chat or you can just pm if you prefer to but we're here for you x

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DrJoanAllenby · 07/03/2024 18:24

This appeared on my Facebook earlier -

FOR ANYONE who has recently – or even not so recently - gone through the devastating experience of losing a beloved dog, we hope this feature by our breed expert, Carol Price, is of some help.

LIVING WITH THE LOSS OF A DOG

In the last three years I have gone through the loss of two of my most special and beloved dogs – as all of them are. Dogs that I bred and brought into this world, shared so much with for so long, and then suddenly they were gone. And with each of their departures, I once again faced that dagger in the heart that so many of you will know, with the loss of a dog, and a friend, and a life that is so uniquely precious to us. There is the shock and the pain and the blind grief, but most of all the horror at the sheer finality of it all. Of realising that you will never see again the face of a dog who was a part of your life for so long.

As humans, it is mostly our lot to outlive our dogs, who invariably will have shorter lives. We know that is the deal when we take them on, and yet still so quickly push this reality to the back of our minds during their lifetimes, along with all the other darker truths of existence that are just too painful to dwell on. Until the day time finally catches up with us, and our dogs. We must say goodbye to them and then somehow find a way to live with the overwhelming vacuum they leave behind.

Every dog we own is uniquely special to us, and similarly the nature of the relationship, and life experiences, we shared with them. All their sweeter or sillier habits and ways that only we understood and all the adventures, and ups and downs, we had together. The sum total of all this is what we truly lose when we lose a dog. It is something so special and unique to us, and the dog we once owned, that it can never really be adequately put into words, or sufficiently explained to anyone else. Except, perhaps, another dog owner who has been through the same experience.

THE JOURNEY OF GRIEF
They say that grief has no universal road map, in terms of the psychological and emotional journey we must travel after losing much loved dogs. For some the journey is much shorter, for others longer. Plus there can be so many other factors that further complicate the picture or lengthen the recovery process; such as how young a dog was when they died.

For losing a dog far too young to illness may always make you feel cheated. Whereas losing a dog to some accident, or because of its more dangerous behaviour, may al-ways make you feel guilt - however misplaced – that there was always something more or better you could have done to prevent it. Feelings like these may also intensify people’s reluctance to get another dog, for fear of history repeating itself – even though in reality it rarely does.

They also say that grief has well recognised stages; i.e. shock and disbelief, guilt, anger (and a desire to blame or self blame), then finally resignation and acceptance (of the loss incurred). But some people may not go through all these stages or get stuck in some and find it harder to move on. It is incredibly important to understand this about yourself; where you stand in this emotional recovery process and what you think may be preventing you from being able to move on.

MAKING SENSE OF LOSS
When faced with any great loss, it is also incredibly common for the more logical, and emotional, parts of our brain to be in constant conflict as we struggle to deal with it. In other words, one moment we may be rationalising that our dog had a wonderfully long and happy life, and could not live forever, and the next we will be overcome with emotion, and tears, because we have just spotted their old collar and lead hanging up in the under stairs cupboard, or seen the ghost of their presence on a favourite walk. Even months or years later, it is always the smallest, poignant, sights and memories like these that suddenly catch us offguard and re-inflame the rawest pain of loss that is still lingering inside. This too is totally normal.

Having just one dog, and losing them, can also be particularly hard. Because being a dog owner, by this stage, could well have become an intrinsic part of your own identity as a person, and this is now also lost to you.

MOVING ON
The main reason I began breeding my own dogs, was to ensure that everything that was so special about them, or their immediate past ancestors, was carried on into newer generations, and thus I would never truly lose the dogs who lay in their past, while I had their offspring. But of course this is not an option for everyone.

After losing a dog, there may well come a moment when you are ready to contemplate owning another. Some people do this too soon, out of a desperation to replace what they have lost with another dog they hope will be the same, but never can be. Newly-bereaved owners can be highly vulnerable to more impulsive decisions about next dogs, and one must always be aware of this, and let enough time pass, until you can think more clearly or rationally and no longer expect a next dog to be just like the one you lost.

Other people may find the pain of losing a dog so great that they cannot bear to get another. Sometimes there are other pretty practical reasons for this decision – like their age, or other changes to their lifestyles – but if it is just fear of loss alone then this is sad. For we have one life, and within it we can choose to embrace love or fear. You can-not experience the joy of loving anything without the fear of also losing them one day. But that still cannot stop us loving things. It is just what humans need to do.

All text © Carol Price 2024

MaMisled · 07/03/2024 18:54

Sending love to you all. I lost my precious, stubborn, beautiful, smelly, funny sweet boy early November. I honestly haven't been able to look at photos, let alone videos, but a kindly distant relative asked to see evidence of him laughing so today I sorted a few photos. I just wasn't done with loving him yet. I want to rage at the sky.

Helplessandheartbroke · 07/03/2024 19:52

@DrJoanAllenby thank you for sharing such an lovely read. I could relate to so much off your post.

@MaMisled I'm sorry for your loss too. Its truely heartbreaking 💔 almost 3 months on I'm still hurting badly. I feel your pain. Feel free to share some memories when you're ready

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MaMisled · 07/03/2024 21:10

Helplessandheartbroke · 07/03/2024 19:52

@DrJoanAllenby thank you for sharing such an lovely read. I could relate to so much off your post.

@MaMisled I'm sorry for your loss too. Its truely heartbreaking 💔 almost 3 months on I'm still hurting badly. I feel your pain. Feel free to share some memories when you're ready

Thank you for your kind words and I'm so sorry you feel the same. I can't ever imagine this deep ache in my heart going. I get no comfort at all from remembering the happy times we had ( our hobby is walking, exploring, camping in remote places and we only work few hours so biggish adventures happen at least 3 x a week). I wasnt ready for him not to coming too.

4658Lou · 07/03/2024 22:03

Hope everyone ok. I’m sorry for everyone’s loss. My ddog I think of everyday it’s only been a few weeks and I think all the time the what ifs and the did I make the right decision with PTS but I keep reminding myself I wouldn’t of and no one else would of even thought of this on this thread it wasn’t the best we made difficulty best for but horrible decisions. I’m processing my grief in a healthy way and just taking one step at a time trying not to focus to much on the negativity and more on the love I have for my ddog and always will hope this helps someone reading x

Helplessandheartbroke · 07/03/2024 22:48

@MaMisled sounds like your ddog have an amazing life, please try and take comfort in that

@4658Lou thank you for your positivity and I know you're right, I just can't process it this way yet, hopefully one day.

Sending lots of hugs tonight x

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4658Lou · 08/03/2024 18:45

I found best way to process is keep reminding yourself that you did what was best that’s what I’m doing I would of never of done it if my little fur baby was not well it would of been cruel to keep going. Unless (only example) outward dog cruelty this type of guilt is not healthy to hold on if someone said they were cruel to their fur baby for example hitting them, not feeding them for days and shutting them in a room for example that kind of cruel intentional treatment I would 💯 understand the tremendous guilt but you and I and everyone on this group just miss our ddogs they were unwell and we all
had to make the most horrible impossible to make kind of decisions - it’s horrible and I feel guilt and sorrow but I don’t feel i need to hold on that for much longer it’s not healthy and it’s not remembering ddog in a positive way, I have put photos up of my ddog that helped and I’m going to visit soon the garden/walk way were his ashes are scattered - I hope this helps someone this message we just need to process all this in a healthy way take some time to be very sad and try to be positive and honour our ddogs memories xx

Helplessandheartbroke · 08/03/2024 19:45

Thanks @4658Lou my ocd takes over and I convince myself I was a bad dog mum because he was shut in the kitchen when we were out (very large kitchen) and not getting round to things but realise it's all normal and he had a good life I know he did x

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4658Lou · 08/03/2024 20:39

@Helplessandheartbroke I understand that and I felt guilty over I wasn’t there like I was before when I just had a baby the ddog didn’t get as much attention when I had the baby so I feel guilty over that of course I do but they are life situations that happens to everyone and for example going to work and leaving the ddog all day at home… these types of situations are normal and we shouldn’t feel that amount of terrible guilt to the point of were it makes us ill if that’s the case a doctor should be seek for help of after a month someone still feel that amount of grief as it can be damaging. I started to have a drink every couple nights when it’s started to think about my ddog and I have never drank before - I realised and told myself STOP it’s normal to grieve but to much can go the opposite way of going down instead of slowly dealing with grief healthy so I’m trying to deal with it healthy acknowledge I’m sad and remind myself all the ways I was a good dog mum

Helplessandheartbroke · 08/03/2024 23:42

@4658Lou thank you so much you're right. When I worked in the office I paid a dog walker and daycare, since I had ds 4 years ago and covid hit I've been at home working mostly. We can only do our best can't we. I just convinced myself my best wasn't good enough but I have to remember he was fed, loved, walked and looked after and noone is perfect. Thanks lou honestly 💓 x

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Helplessandheartbroke · 08/03/2024 23:43

I am under my gp too even before ddog passing due to my ocd and anxiety. I blame myself constantly and its not healthy x

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