Kylie documentary on Netflix

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Poor Jason Donovan. He's still clearly so cut up about being dumped for Michael Hutchence. Kylie lit up talking about MH and didn't express any regret for hurting J. I wonder if she will feel bad when she sees how much he is still affected.

I once heard someone say that Kylie says a lot of words in interviews but doesn't really give specifics.
Big revelations:

• return of cancer in 2021 (only given 30 secs at the end)
• She did IVF. Didn't give any details tho eg was it just egg freezing or was it embryos, did she ever get pregnant. (Not suggesting for a minute it's any of our business but i know from my own experience you have to decide whether to do just eggs or ask your partner to use his sperm as embryos freeze better so might have been a hell of a conversation with Olivier Martinez.) I got the impression she didn't get too far with it sadly - the implication with the song lyrics being that nothing ever came into being.

Inferences I think we are to draw:

• she took drugs with MH (not news)
• she had a boob job in the early days. Remember how Britney got such a hard time for the same many years later!

Jason comes across very open and honest and genuine. Kylie seemed very natural with him. Then Michael came along and dazzled her and he had big stadium success. Can understand how she was dazzled but it didn't seem real to me. Not a real relationship.

I think it did come across as a real relationship to her, but given they were touring, they probably didn't spend much time together.
It's also easy to say whatever about him now.
As a whole, the documentary came across as very acted to me, we didn't actually learn much about her.

So it was a short, intense affair full of sex, drugs and rock 'n' roll and she was so young at the time. One of those things which isn't meant to last. But no doubt it was fun while it lasted!

Exactly @IcedPurple one of those mad, bad & dangerous early 20's relationships where you're finding yourself & probably being too cool for school, I know I've been there

Yes, the head injury seems to have been a big factor in how he behaved in the years with Paula. Paula Yates didn’t even drink alcohol, she wasn’t into drugs until she got together with Michael, which has always made me think badly of him. Paula was a far less resilient person than Kylie, her split from Bob Geldof was very acrimonious and MH was very drug fuelled and damaged from the head injury. I think it’s so sad how things panned out for Paula.
I met Kylie, when she was around 19 or 20. She was very likeable.

Jennifer Aniston was questioned similarly during & after the Brad/Jolie shite, it's pretty disgusting

I'm lucky I have my son but I know the hardship it took for him to become a reality & then secondary infertility & there's Kylie on a global stage facing those questions & judgements

my favourites from her are many but "Better The Devil.." is my OG & if I'm lucky enough when she tours next & I manage to get tickets, I can't wait to dance & sing

I don’t see why anyone would think he was a sex God. I just don’t see it. He was a mangy looking guy with a huge ego. Can’t see the appeal at all.

My conclusion after watching this was that Kylie LOVES pop music, and her personality is about as deep as pop music. BUT she does indeed seem to be infectiously joyful despite all the shit life has thrown at her, and some of her music is also infectiously something: catchy, buzzy, joyful, energetic. That’s something, in and of itself. She seems to be a loyal friend and sister and daughter, and she inspires loyalty. She has a lot going for her, even now.

I so appreciated the way she spoke about not having been able to have children. Her generation is the first to speak openly about it, once the fertility window has closed, and I can’t help but think that she would be inspirational to many women who also think that life can take many paths and that the motherhood one wasn’t meant to be.

I didn’t exactly warm to her, but I really rate her resilience and persistence and energy. I hope she does find a soulmate who she doesn’t have to compare to MH, and I hope cancer is behind her.

I kind of agree with marmalade. MH was actually slightly cringe with the benefit of hindsight. All that posing hair tossing and leather trousers. Abit blue steel. He was better than Jason Donovan though.

Musing that it can be harder if you’re very gorgeous as you go for the best looking men and actually they don’t often make the best long term partners.

I just watched the first episode, and I actually respected Jason’s honesty. Kylie dumped him for the hottest guy in the music industry at the time. It obviously stung, and rather than do the insincere fake gushing showbiz thing all these years later, he told the truth. Fair play to him.

It was probably for the best that Michael subsequently dumped Kylie, because he was about to embark on a downward spiral and such was her evident infatuation he might have taken her down with him.

@JuliettaCaeseragree and in a clip I’ve just watched of him during the time he dated Paula he had a big speech impediment ( he was ranting about the press in uk too) . Were these things related to his head injury because he didn’t look like a sex god to me!

I thought MH was sex on legs back in the day, watching him now on the documentary he looks a bit of a skank and super pretentious. I can see why young Kylie fell for him but he did her a favour by ending it with her.
ive only watched one episode so far, I can’t work out if she is a bit boring or very guarded. She is talking a lot but not really saying anything and certainly thing new so far.

This is on my watchlist. Am not really a fan although I do think she's done amazingly well for someone whose voice isn't fantastic (imo). Something I don't like is that she declined to perform at King Charles' coronation, which would be fine if she'd always been anti monarchy, but she has performed at numerous royal variety performances etc in the past, when she had something to gain from it. To me, it seems wrong to refuse a request like that from the monarch - it feels disrespectful when she's had a lot of support within the UK over the years and has generated a lot of wealth from her popularity here. Idk, but that just doesn't give me good vibes and I'm not even staunchly pro royalty.

I don't think JD is still bitter but maybe being interviewed about her brought out his feelings at the time. They've always been friends

Just watched the first episode. It has been edited/spliced/intersected so quickly for pace/narrative. Would love to have seen the full raw footage of the interviews with Pete and Jason.
I love Kylie. She has had an amazing career. Saw her live in Sydney May 2001 - seems like a lifetime ago - and listened to her a ton during lockdown. I remember reading how she saw the two year relationship with Michael as a rite of passage at 21, decadent, hedonistic, liberating, experimental, so many firsts etc years ago. I didn't realise how insecure she'd felt about her voice and how supportive he'd been.
But anyone on here, had we been informed "went to a party with my bf and he ended up in a bathroom for ages talking to this really pretty girl" would be told LTB.
Jason looked so much like his dad in this. I don't think he and Pete come across badly per se, rather it's edited to tell a story (obvs) and you always lose something in the edit. If there were bad feelings at all, neither would have agreed to take part.
As it was, Kylie was the only artist to fulfil her contract - five albums - with SAW. And Jason has always said how strong and resilient his wife is, regarding how he is always asked about Kylie.
"I think, initially, she would get a little frustrated with stuff, but she’s such a strong woman and our relationship is so solid that it transcends that moment that, with respect, mostly journalists are obsessed with.”

it was a look very much of it’s time though, eighties/nineties. I remember at the time it was universally accepted that he was very hot stuff. Today’s beauty standards are different.

Ooh, it's bingeable. Just finished Episode 2 when she leaves JWL (and it was four albums they did not five, sorry, don't know why I thought it was a 5-album contract). Nick Cave comes across very well. And when she welled up about Michael having supported her, it did make me cry, which I wasn't expecting.
Nostalgia and longing/yearning. And on that wistful note, I am going to make a

Why is it framed as her breaking his heart? They were thrown together by circumstance, there was so much pressure on her to be part of this couple, everyone wanted the cute love story. But she didn’t. She was allowed not to. He was in love with her and it’s sad for him that she didn’t feel the same way. His heartbreak is his alone, she didn’t do it to him.

Totally. I thought he was a total sex god, but I would have been petrified to go anywhere near him during his relationship with PY. Their relationship, not to mention the things they got up to during sex, was dangerous. Before his accident he was apparently very shy, sweet & kind but his personality changed dramatically afterwards for the worse

You don’t know why though! She may have been ill.. Her cancer returned in 2021 according to op and documentary.

Even if she was perfectly well, she may have changed her tune about monarchy; many Australians have, as is their right.

A bit nuts to judge her on this one thing if you ask me. Especially as the last couple of Royal concerts have been utterly cringeworthy imho.

I’m glad you’ve said that. I don’t wish to speak ill of the dead but I really do not see any appeal whatsoever,

You probably had to be there around 1989-1994 but for me he was totally beautiful. It helped that I loved INXS too. He was a little rugged but also had beautiful eyes and was magnetic on stage. I'll never forget seeing INXS at Wembley Stadium on my 18th birthday in 1991. Those tight trousers...!

@Discardedbutnotlost8it was the coronation, not just a royal variety. She said she didn't feel it was appropriate, or words to that effect iirc. Which, like I say, would be fine if she had never benefitted from royal performances. But she has, so it feels a bit 'off' to me