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Caroline Flack documentary

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Finto1111 · 13/11/2025 12:48

Is anyone watching the new Caroline Flack documentary on Disney plus.

Her mother is trying to stand up for her. Its very sad. And interesting . Her mother looked up a lot of information about the assualt case.

It was a night where both of them were very drunk. Caroline found texts from another woman on her partner's phone. She hit him with the phone on his head to wake him up. She shouldn't have done that.

I am just recounting the facts of what happened

Caroline's partner threatened to ring the police. He rang the police and said he wasn't sure what he had been hit with, maybe a lamp or something. (He later agreed that it was a phone).

After he rang the police, Caroline was so distraught that she cut her wrists.

Her mother said that media reported that the room looked like a horror movie. But they made it seem like the blood was her partners. The blood was Carolines.

Her partner was not injured. And he did not want to press charges.

In the documentary it shows that the police initiallly decided not to press charges on Caroline.
Due to
Her having no previous history of violence
Her partner was not injured
Her partner did not want to press charges.

They decided to give Caroline a caution.

However a Detective came on duty later that night and decided to overturn the decision. She decided to charge Caroline with assault.

The documentary also shows notes the police made. They refer a lot to Caroline as a celebrity and a high profile case. Her mother thinks Caroline was charged unfairly as the police had attention on them over this case.

It then shows Carolines texts to friends . She writes "I have lost it all. I don't see any way out".

Its very sad. Has anyone watched it

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Ootofmymind · 13/11/2025 16:46

LoftyAmberLion · 13/11/2025 16:45

In an ideal world yes but for whatever reason they often don’t.

I agree, but then they have to accept the consequences of their actions.

Crofthead · 13/11/2025 16:47

noidea69 · 13/11/2025 16:40

But did they mention Harry Styles was 17 & she was 31? Bit grim that.

No I don’t think they did specify that

Finto1111 · 13/11/2025 16:47

IAmKerplunk · 13/11/2025 16:42

You couldn’t have charged her with assault. It is not your decision to make.
Pushing people just because you have been pushed other times does not make pushing ok. Am I living in a parallel world world here where people think pushing others is ok?

I mean 'report her for assault'

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Imdunfer · 13/11/2025 16:50

Finto1111 · 13/11/2025 16:35

Yes when they arrived he said that she was trying to kill him, and she repied "no you are trying to kill me"

It is in the notes

Yes and how many men have said the same when they were arrested?

If you reverse the sexes there is no way she would be let off without a charge. She smacked him with a phone while he was asleep so hard his head did bleed and continued the fight until he called the police to stop it.

The result was exactly what would have happened to a man.

Then she pleaded not guilty after admitting she hit him, which was utterly stupid because it caused something which would have been over and done with really quickly to turn into a media circus.

It is very sad that she was not mentally strong or stable enough to deal with the outcome.

Dontbeme · 13/11/2025 16:50

ventyb · 13/11/2025 15:39

Why did she date harry styles, 15? Years her junior. Andrew was 11 years her junior. Lewis was 15 years her junior. The only people I know who consistently date much younger partners are domestic abusers.

Presumably the same reasons men do, younger partners will not recognize abusive, controlling relationships and have less resources to enable them to leave. They are easier to manipulate and in the case of Harry Styles she had seniority in that show, she was an employee and he was entirely disposable if he had complained about her behavior.

I haven't watched the documentary, did it mention her flipping a table in the police station and her being restrained on the floor as she was so out of control?

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-50890079

Finto1111 · 13/11/2025 16:55

Sbe was wrong. I still feel sad for her.

The same as I used to work with a particular teenage boy

He was a very promising sports coach. He got accepted to be a coach for a well known under age youth team.

He then got into a fight outside a bar. I dont know what it was over. He was charged with assault. He lost his job offer. He was extremely upset.

Im not sure if he got convicted but if he did , he would never be able to be a sports coach again

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TheignT · 13/11/2025 16:56

HearMeOutt · 13/11/2025 15:21

I can’t comment on this case specifically and I would be very wary of any assertions in the news or from her mum about ‘what was in the evidence’ without seeing it verbatim and having it officially confirmed.

In a speculative way there can be reasons why what appears as an admission might be undermined:

  1. The admission was made but then retracted and they plead not guilty
  2. The admission was half hearted ‘yes I hit her, it wasn’t that hard, and didn’t cause that mark’
  3. The admission changes and isn’t reliable - admitting to one thing one minute, then changing the next
  4. Admitting it but not really showing remorse and not showing understanding of the impact on the victim

Who knows what played out here, but the reasons above are just speculative on my part.

I would also be wary of focussing too much on this 1 point - the admission, or lack of, is just one thing that may be taken into account when deciding whether a caution is acceptable. As I said before DV cases are only very rarely suitable for a caution.

Edited

In one post the OP said Caroline admitted it happened but it was an accident. That isn't admitting what she did.

OhOhOhOhItsAlright · 13/11/2025 16:58

She hit him with the phone on his head to wake him up. She shouldn't have done that.

That’s actually a really aggressive thing to do, and to be really drunk and wake up, she must have hit him hard, yet I saw the mother say this as ‘she caught him with the phone’. She’s minimising.

LoftyAmberLion · 13/11/2025 16:58

Yes but the mitigating factor here is that she was being abused by him - unfaithfulness is abusive behaviour. She had a reaction to the abuse as any other human would.

ohyesido · 13/11/2025 17:00

I think the confusion over the lamp resulted from someone saying Caroline “lamped” Lewis, it’s a figure of speech. He asserted on his statement that she hit him with a phone.

he sounds like a wrongen to me, an emotional abuser who used veiled threats to control her.

LoftyAmberLion · 13/11/2025 17:00

I am astounded that no one on this thread has picked up on the fact that this was clearly a case of reactive abuse. Knives are out for Caroline once more.

TheignT · 13/11/2025 17:01

Finto1111 · 13/11/2025 16:09

A push is an assault. I have pushed people and they have pushed me.

Well learn from this and keep your hands to yourself.

losingstill · 13/11/2025 17:01

wandererofthekingdom · 13/11/2025 14:17

She didn't have the same job as Cheryl, it wasn't the same people making that decision. That's like asking why Barclays fired Joe Bloggs but M&S didn't fire Sheila for something vaguely similar.

It is all very sad. She clearly had mental health and esteem issues. I will never not find it bizarre that a 32 year old woman dated a 17 year old boy. The fact that she found enough in common with him to spend all that time with him suggests to me she was perhaps emotionally immature.

Wasn’t that similar to the situation with Cheryl Cole and Liam Payne. Although in Cheryl’s case she was looking for a suitable person to father her child.

OhOhOhOhItsAlright · 13/11/2025 17:01

LoftyAmberLion · 13/11/2025 16:58

Yes but the mitigating factor here is that she was being abused by him - unfaithfulness is abusive behaviour. She had a reaction to the abuse as any other human would.

You can’t go around assaulting your partner because they cheated on you.

LoftyAmberLion · 13/11/2025 17:03

OhOhOhOhItsAlright · 13/11/2025 17:01

You can’t go around assaulting your partner because they cheated on you.

Google reactive abuse. Educate yourself about how abusive relationships work.

Redwinedaze · 13/11/2025 17:03

Not sure if this has been posted but this is an interesting read https://www.cps.gov.uk/publication/witness-statement-lisa-ramsarran-matter-inquest-touching-upon-death-caroline-flack

PolkaDotPorridge · 13/11/2025 17:04

LoftyAmberLion · 13/11/2025 17:00

I am astounded that no one on this thread has picked up on the fact that this was clearly a case of reactive abuse. Knives are out for Caroline once more.

Agreed. Some very nasty people here. The boyfriend is a liar and he was a fame seeker, still is. Poor Caroline, no peace even in death.

Hotpolishcloth · 13/11/2025 17:04

The documentary painted her whiter than white. She wasn't. She was a deeply troubled, messed up, volatile woman. She was also a predator. What woman in her 30's would go after a child and Harry Styles looked like a young boy when she was with him. She hit a man over the head when he was asleep with her phone and cut his head. She didn't "catch him" with the phone. What she did was downplayed so much in the documentary. Her mother blaming the friend was really awful I thought.

TheignT · 13/11/2025 17:05

Finto1111 · 13/11/2025 16:37

Referring it to appeal is over ruling the decision.

She doesn't have to do that.

Caroline Flack's case was the first time this partivular Detective had EVER questioned a CPS decision

She didn't over rule it, she did have the power to overrule it.

OhOhOhOhItsAlright · 13/11/2025 17:06

LoftyAmberLion · 13/11/2025 17:03

Google reactive abuse. Educate yourself about how abusive relationships work.

I don’t need to educate myself on anything to know that you shouldn’t be hitting anyone because they cheated on you. If he cheated then he is a shit, but it doesn’t justify violence. If you think it does, it’s you that needs to ‘educate yourself’.

TheignT · 13/11/2025 17:07

OhOhOhOhItsAlright · 13/11/2025 17:06

I don’t need to educate myself on anything to know that you shouldn’t be hitting anyone because they cheated on you. If he cheated then he is a shit, but it doesn’t justify violence. If you think it does, it’s you that needs to ‘educate yourself’.

Particularly when the victim is asleep and vulnerable.

IAmKerplunk · 13/11/2025 17:08

LoftyAmberLion · 13/11/2025 17:00

I am astounded that no one on this thread has picked up on the fact that this was clearly a case of reactive abuse. Knives are out for Caroline once more.

He was asleep! She was drunk. I will google reactive abuse because I grew up in an abusive family (my mum killed herself when I was 16 to escape the relationship) and I ended up in an abusive marriage myself but I still have never physically harmed someone whilst they were asleep - or even when they were awake. Actually I tell a lie, I scratched and hit my h when he was throttling me.
Maybe I need educating on reactive abuse. I still maintain Christine shouldn’t have done this documentary because what good has come from it 5 years later? It is just salacious fodder.

Finto1111 · 13/11/2025 17:08

Redwinedaze · 13/11/2025 17:03

It says

Mr Burton directly, and then in correspondence from Kingsley Napley, reiterated his wish that the criminal proceedings be discontinued. His representations relied on his concerns over Ms Flack’s career and wellbeing and the effect that ongoing press attention was having on his own mental health and ability to work

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Finto1111 · 13/11/2025 17:09

TheignT · 13/11/2025 17:05

She didn't over rule it, she did have the power to overrule it.

It defends on your definition of over rule.

The case wouldn't have been looked at again, if that Detective didn't decide to refer it for appeal

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FrippEnos · 13/11/2025 17:09

Finto1111 · 13/11/2025 15:26

The cps also wrote something similiar in their initial charging report though..

then they would be excusing violence as well.

but do you have context for the exact quote?

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