MAFS THREAD 10 where you will respect the forum and sit down. Take off your Anorak of Sulk and get your hands out their Uggs. For we shall wear our polo-necks of misery and janitor pyjamas of poetry.

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The rest of the thread title

"For it's not easy to not get lipsed on the down low without someone getting lippy. Casper is still dying of cringe and Shitlid sees no way out. For we are all scrambling for our dignity, whilst watching the utter mockery"

It was a joint effort by us all.

I disagree with others, both Holly and Polly seem the type to have a brawl in the club or bar with both men and women. They both seem super aggressive and problematic.
I hate the double standards the men must be subdued otherwise they are threatening if they dare defend themselves. Sorry but then "ladies" need a reality check. They live in a bubble in their own lives and their friends promote this vile behaviour. Glad they are learning a lesson on TV. Be humbled.

Emma is interesting, she is so indecisive and seems immature for a meaningful relationship. Really needs some 1 - 1 therapy before even bringing any man into the equation.
As a Plus size lady myself no chance on earth she is a UK 14. I am much much smaller then her and I wear a UK 14/16 without it being tight. She is at least a UK 20 if worn properly.

Immature Daddys girl comes to mind. Which is why Ross will not hang around once the show ends no way he will stick by that. Very brattish and immature. She gives of 16 years old vibes.

100% her Did gives that vibe with her Mother. They seems to spend 24/7 together and their loves revolve around them 3. I don't think Ross will accept that in the real world..suffocating much.

Erm, Alex is incredibly threatening. Definitely no risk of acting subdued. Erm, be humble in the face of Alex? Somewhat concerning there. 😬

Polpot and Holly are absolute fish wives. Yet, I'd be significantly more fearful of Alex than those 2 brawlers.

If I had to be stuck in a room with any of them, it would be Sacha and Emma for sure.

There is no doubt that both Holly and Polly have not come across well.

I have no idea if that is their norm or if it has been encouraged.

But I will praise anyone who stands up to that arsehole because he has shown himself to have a threatening, aggressive and nasty demeanour as well as a tendency to the misogynistic.

He doesn’t do himself any favours and while I do not expect him to be subdued - he probably got all that he deserved and more.

Be humbled? Aye. HE should be. I hope he watches this all back to see who he is.

Did he definitely kiss Polly? I saw Kristina asking did you just kiss another wife but didn't see who. And on the lips?!

I don't see what would be the racist implication.

Polly's saying 'you're behaving as though I'm speaking a language you don't understand a word of'. Hence picking a language she's got no reason to think she, Alex, or anyone there, speaks. (unless I've missed something about his background or studies).

If Polly was being racist, the point would surely be assuming that Alex should understand Swahili because he is black.

Swahili is a complicated language to learn. A lot of really interesting agglutination. It's not widely taught in the UK so a fair enough candidate to use as in 'it's all Greek to me' or 'Double Dutch'.

It's perfectly possible to use an African word in conversation with a black person and there be no implied racism, even if it's an argument

I think he was standing behind Luke and Polly. He kissed Luke first (on the cheek) then Polly on the lips.
So it wasn't a sneaky snog behind the bike sheds, it was all good natured and public. But if he's not been kissing Kristina at all it's massively tactless and hurtful to Kristina.
I don't think anyone would be happy with their other half kissing on the lips with another spouse. It'll be interesting to see it again to see exactly how it came about.

I had alot of hope for K and K. I doubt any of them have endured tbh

Me too re KK. The rest, no chance. Maybe Hannah and Orson, if that is a thing, which I think it will be?

Agree. Back at school in the 80s, one of my teachers often used to ask if he was speaking Swahilii/double Dutch/gibberish when he was ignored having told certain students to shut up.

Polly is a lot of things, but I feel strongly racist is not one of them.

I did say I didn't think she was. I'd not heard the phrase though so to me it seemed that it might have been as it was a strange choice of language, and have been told the phrase was in common parlance, so there we go. Nothing to see there.

Common parlance could be racist. Think through what she actually said.

I'm swinging between dread and excitement about tonight's episode. I'm not sure my heart can take another night like last night. My Fitbit had my heart rate at 98 by the time it was all over. I'm normally mid 60s at rest ...

I really hope something more exciting happens this evening.

@PuppiesProzacProsecco I felt the same after seeing the pile-on of Hannah. Alex, on the other hand, got what he deserved. I've been around a lot of abusive men in my life. My GM used to say, I prefer to be hit rather than the mental abuse she endured as it was over more quickly. This series has been an absolute rollercoaster of emotions and the producers and Ixperts have much to answer for.

Just catchjng up!

Oh dear. Sasha is weirdly upset. Lacey is ex performing arts isn't she? The producers probably set that up.

Alex is so unpleasant just winding everyone up.

Polly still pretty unpleasant.

Not sure what's going on with Holly.

None of these couples will still be together. They are all very broken and hurt people who need proper therapy before introducing a serious partner into their lives.
K&K are not going to go very far same with S&R.

I think the opposite . I think he wants fire the in bed plus someone who enjoys an argument.

He's clearly pretty damaged but arguing if arguing is what you're used to is how you understand someone. He enjoys it.
He knows his limits so he never attacked Richelle or Emma both who have a better vocabulary.

Good point. Richelle would have wiped the floor with him.

Yes @MixedCouple2 I agree there.

The casting team have a radar for those with some sort of vulnerability that can be exploited ( ADHD heavy cast this season), or some sort of personality disorder or seriously questionable values and behaviour. Or all of the above!

I feel bad if Ross has been pressured in to an argument with Alex. He should just have said to Sasha that the best plan from this point is to be vaguely polite if he speaks to them but not actually engage in any conversation and ignore him. Not rise to any further arguments. Ross could have said to him he was disappointed to hear what happened and left it at that.

It would be interesting to see Alex with someone like Richelle. I think she'd walk within 2 days - rightly so tbh.

Holly might be fiery but that's a mask to vulnerability and insecurity. To me she isn't likeable and is gobby. However, her incredibly low self esteem, her incredibly incredibly low standards in a man makes her very vulnerable in romantic relationships.

People like Alex thrive on arguments and strong reactions. But usually that's only with people who are reactive and susceptible to baiting. I see Richelle as someone who wouldn't be baited but would just kick him to the kerb from the outset. I think she'd trigger his inferiority and shame complex severely and he knows it. He'd never go there. Instead, he goes for the vulnerable who are also likely to be argumentative in response to his baiting. It's the life source for these type of douche bags.

I know it is not Ross' fight here but Alex was testing Ross out. His reaction made Sacha fair game for attack as in his mind she is outspoken ( rightly so) and vulnerable on some level. She can be reactive. Alex's ilk smell this instinctively. He knew smirking like a Cheshire cat would trigger Sacha in that moment.

Polpot called it out perfectly - he tests the water to see who he can dominate and manipulate.

I wouldn’t label someone as racist for using insensitive language, even thoughtlessly. No one is saying she is racist.Racism is when you know something (which might even have been a common saying in the past) is offensive but use it anyway.

There’s no shame in having got it a bit wrong by using outdated language which could be offensive, listened to the explanation and decided you aren’t going to use that expression again. Even my dad at 80 could work it out after gently pointing it out to him.

That’s the problem with challenging language - the user assumes you are calling them a racist when you’re just explaining why it might not be a great use of words today/ in that context. If it makes people uncomfortable then it is probably not a great choice of words - that’s all. No need to get defensive because it’s not an attack.

Is this programme one of these scripted things or do the envelopes of questions and personalities supply all the drama? This week has been particularly bad.

I agree with PP about the casting of the vulnerabilities and hope there is some kind of support for the guinea pigs. Calling it an experiment, still, is fucking annoying, it's manipulative drama llama bullshit. I'm not happy that I've been sucked in 😡but I'm so glad I've RTFT because I didn't know it was on again tonight 😬