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Fallout anyone?

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Awrite · 13/04/2024 13:15

I searched for a thread but didn't find one

New series on Amazon Prime. Based on a game.

Kyle McLaughlin and Walton Goggins the only well known actors (to me anyway). Actually, I recognise a couple of other faces.

Premise is an that 200 years after a nuclear fallout in an alternative 1950's, there are folk who live in vaults underground and then those who live in the wastelands above ground.

Protagonist called Lucy.

I've watched 3 episodes and am enjoying it.

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OutOfTheHouse · 18/04/2024 19:02

The thing with The Brotherhood is if they are good or not rather depends on your position. I think of them rather like the crusaders. They thought they were good, lots of of people thought they were good but if you were on the receiving end of them then they were not so good.

HuminaHuminaHumina · 18/04/2024 19:19

Thank you both.
I was getting in a muddle googling and trying to figure it all out.

ChishiyaBat · 18/04/2024 19:23

That is true @OutOfTheHouse I have never been a huge brotherhood fan, but i'd take them over caesers legion in nv😂.
Glad I could help @HuminaHuminaHumina the fallout universe is vast and confusing😂

DearAnt · 18/04/2024 20:51

Re. whether the Brotherhood are good, I think for non-gamers it might help to explain a little about how Fallout (and games like it) work.

In Fallout games, it isn’t a case of completing level 1, moving onto level 2, level 3, and doing what the game tells you to do.

Instead, you’re in an “open world”, meaning that you’re free to explore the setting of the game in (largely) whatever order you want.

Each game will have an overall, core story and lots of optional side-stories. You could complete the core story by taking the particular steps needed to progress it, without actually exploring most of the “world” of the game.

Both the core story and various of the side stories will not have a single, fixed narrative but instead will work more like a choose-your-own-adventure book, where you make decisions and they will lead to a wide variety of outcomes. The core story won’t have just one ending, but a range of possible ones, based on your decisions. The actual world of the game will evolve based on your decisions too (most obviously, if you choose to blow up a certain town, you won’t be able to visit it anymore or complete the side-stories that might have been available if you hadn’t killed everyone relevant to it).

In the Fallout universe in particular many of the decisions you will have to make will be more nuanced than “be a goodie/baddie”, and may be far more morally complex. Admittedly, there’ll be some obviously good/evil choices too.

In Fallout 4 there are four different groups who you can align yourself with (including the Brotherhood), each with their own aims, philosophies and motivations. Some are plainly more dubious than others but they all perceive themselves to be serving the greater good.

It’s probably fair to say that the Brotherhood aren’t “evil”, and in some conflicts they might be the obvious “good guys”. In the story of Fallout 3, they are the obvious (flawed) goodies. In Fallout 4 I’d say that two of the other three factions have a much better claim to be “the good guys”, though opinions may vary!

OutOfTheHouse · 18/04/2024 22:54

This is one of the things I like about Fallout. There are no white hats and black hats, lots of shades of grey.

Awrite · 19/04/2024 08:17

@DearAnt @ChishiyaBat @OutOfTheHouse thank you for your explanations. You guys know so much more than dh 😉

We are watching the final episode tonight.

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AIstolemylunch · 19/04/2024 08:23

I loved this and watched the whole thing last weekend. It's so well done. I was worried the humour wouldn't translate, but it has.

The only thing that confuses me slightly as why the music and the aesthetic is 50s/60s when the bombs actually went off in the 70s in Fallout universe?

AIstolemylunch · 19/04/2024 08:29

Ignore me, 2077!

So the reason Fallout universe got stuck in the 60s isn't the bombs?

I'm a gamer but never played Fallout so trying to get my head round the universe and when it diverged from ours.

fernsandlilies · 19/04/2024 08:30

I haven’t watched the series although I remember DS loved the game, but this is my question… is it actually the Wizard of Oz ?
I have only seen the posters and to me that looks like the Scarecrow, the Tin Man and Toto along with Dorothy?

This is the poster I’ve seen at bus stops etc:
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Mothership4two · 19/04/2024 08:40

I can see why you might think that from that poster @fernsandlilies but no it (the TV show) has nothing to do with the world of Oz and isn't that similar. Although Lucy and Dorothy both leave their homes on a kind of quest and go to a very different world/environment, but Oz is magical and the surface world is grim and violent and the stories, characters and themes aren't alike.

I haven't played the game, so don't know if there are parallels in there.

ChishiyaBat · 19/04/2024 10:21

AIstolemylunch · 19/04/2024 08:29

Ignore me, 2077!

So the reason Fallout universe got stuck in the 60s isn't the bombs?

I'm a gamer but never played Fallout so trying to get my head round the universe and when it diverged from ours.

No the reason Fallout is stuck in the 50s is no transistors were invented, they went down the nuclear power option instead and computers are run with vaccuum tubes. Technology never got minuturised, it's why pip boys are so big and not phone sized.

OutOfTheHouse · 19/04/2024 16:05

ChishiyaBat · 19/04/2024 10:21

No the reason Fallout is stuck in the 50s is no transistors were invented, they went down the nuclear power option instead and computers are run with vaccuum tubes. Technology never got minuturised, it's why pip boys are so big and not phone sized.

And because the whole 50s design and music aesthetic looks good.

ChishiyaBat · 19/04/2024 16:11

OutOfTheHouse · 19/04/2024 16:05

And because the whole 50s design and music aesthetic looks good.

That too😁

Awrite · 19/04/2024 22:02

Finished season 1, can't wait till season 2.

I liked how it finished, dh didn't.

I am wondering if power will corrupt Maximus.

I so love the Ghoul's story arc. And who else but Walton Goggins could pull it off?

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OutOfTheHouse · 20/04/2024 17:05

Spoiler

spoiler

spoiler.

We have started watching it again with the knowledge we now have.

At the very beginning, Cooper is at birthday party doing a guest appearance. He has his daughter. Given what he now knows and that he is doing something like that for money do we assume that Vaultec dropped him? Do we also assume he separated from his wife? If he knows what Vaultec are planning to do wouldn’t he leave his daughter with his wife knowing that she will be safe, even though he knows he’d never see her again.

Also, when we see the explosion in the city, and the subsequent explosions as he rides away there are no contrails in the sky, no planes over head, we don’t see anything drop.

ChishiyaBat · 20/04/2024 17:25

OutOfTheHouse · 20/04/2024 17:05

Spoiler

spoiler

spoiler.

We have started watching it again with the knowledge we now have.

At the very beginning, Cooper is at birthday party doing a guest appearance. He has his daughter. Given what he now knows and that he is doing something like that for money do we assume that Vaultec dropped him? Do we also assume he separated from his wife? If he knows what Vaultec are planning to do wouldn’t he leave his daughter with his wife knowing that she will be safe, even though he knows he’d never see her again.

Also, when we see the explosion in the city, and the subsequent explosions as he rides away there are no contrails in the sky, no planes over head, we don’t see anything drop.

I would say he got dropped for his association with pre war Moldaver and his actor buddy, but I guess we'll find out for sure in season 2. I don't know what he was thinking re his daughter, unless Barb didn't want her, I hope they will explain it all.
As for the explosions, it may not have been planes, it could have been subs, or vault-tec planted the bombs beforehand and just remotely detonated them, that deffo sounds like something they'd do, the evil bastards!

IntriguingFactJumble · 20/04/2024 17:28

Fantastic series, looking forward to the next. Not a gamer but loved The Last Of Us as well. Some fab Lego minifigures out now, not official but very cool.

OutOfTheHouse · 20/04/2024 17:29

ChishiyaBat · 20/04/2024 17:25

I would say he got dropped for his association with pre war Moldaver and his actor buddy, but I guess we'll find out for sure in season 2. I don't know what he was thinking re his daughter, unless Barb didn't want her, I hope they will explain it all.
As for the explosions, it may not have been planes, it could have been subs, or vault-tec planted the bombs beforehand and just remotely detonated them, that deffo sounds like something they'd do, the evil bastards!

I suspect they were buried bombs and Vault-tec were just waiting for the right moment.

ChishiyaBat · 20/04/2024 17:41

@OutOfTheHouse I think that's a great theory, they are more thank capable of it.

TeamPolin · 20/04/2024 17:59

Absolutely loving the Matt Berry cameo. 😂

OutOfTheHouse · 20/04/2024 18:35

TeamPolin · 20/04/2024 17:59

Absolutely loving the Matt Berry cameo. 😂

Now I love Matt Berry but I can find him annoying in stuff where he has a cameo, but he was brilliant in this.

PerspicaciaTick · 21/04/2024 03:06

I really enjoyed the first episode but have now lost interest. It reminded too much if exactly what it is, a game. I felt like I was in an early 80s role-playing computer game where I couldn't get out of the first scene.
You meet a stranger.
The stranger greets you.
What do you do?
Say hi...
Ignore him...
Ask him how he is...
Ask him for directions to the city...
Offer him money...
Offer him food...
Shoot him...

Enough!

Luckydog7 · 21/04/2024 08:39

I'm also a big fan of the games and it's making me want to replay 3 and 4 and start new vegas which I never got to.

The tone is hit really well. The humourous satire against the violence and dark theme. It was clever to split the main story arc beats between Lucy and Norm. She gets the wondering wastelander/action parts. Norm gets the sneaking around investigating vaults, hacking computers, dealing with the general weirdness of vault dwellers. It may have been jarring to have that all be the same character and take up too much time to do well with one person.

My two favourite things was expecting the wasteland and also descending into a new-found vault to find out what crazy shit is happening in this one. You learn a lot about the world in that context without a single line of exposition. It's great showing not telling.

It very much felt like the story line of a game we haven't played yet.

Rollergirl11 · 21/04/2024 09:17

DH and I are absolutely loving it! It’s so addictive.

At the moment we have 4 months free and just so happen to be watching Silo at the same tine. They are very similar in lots of ways but I look forward to Fall out much more!