Jesy Nelson documentary.

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Has anyone watched this yet? It is really sad. I've just cried most of the way through. I actually dont think shes ugly. Unique looking yes, but not physically repulsive. And I think she has such beautiful big eyes and many other nice features like nice hair and good body shape. It is so sad to see the toll the bullying took on her mental health.

Agree with everything @TacoLover said

@TacoLover I think you've misunderstood. Posting pictures even now is not going to HELP her.

When you are in a situation, even if out of your control it makes sense to try and do things to help the situation.

Do you think she should carry on using social media so much? Generally just curious to know your thoughts on this?

Do you not think stepping back from social media would help???

Well said @TacoLover

And couldn't agree more on people who denounce pop. It makes me laugh that- all of the music that they deem so "cool" and from back in the day started out as pop. I love old music, I have a record collection of "worthy" stuff.
Doesn't mean I can't appreciate a good slice of throwaway pop to bop along to. It's why DD is miffed as she liked Billy Eillish until I told her I thought she was really cool

We are are kids role models. No one else.
Jesy, Taylor Swift, the Kardashians are celebs. Nothing more, nothing less.

When you are in a situation, even if out of your control it makes sense to try and do things to help the situation.

You and other posters are saying she is a hypocrite for using social media and then 'complaining' when she is bullied; when you say 'complaining' or 'crying' do you mean severe depression and literally trying to kill herself? How does it make her a hypocrite? Everyone uses social media. She posts pictures because she wants to just like everyone else. It doesn't mean that it's her fault that she is bullied. It doesn't make you a hypocrite to want to be able to use social media without being bullied to suicide

Literally all she did was speak out about her story and try to get cyber bullies to stop so that she can use social media without being constantly attacked. How does that make her a hypocrite? What you are doing is victim blaming. Are rape victims hypocrites for being upset when they're raped because they went out at night in a tiny dress?

Not that this is important, but why is she a bad role model? She came across as a kind, compassionate woman who has bravely spoken about her mental health issues.

I think one thing the documentary was crying out for, was for her to speak to another celebrity who's faced similar abuse but has found a way of handling it.

And as it happens my kids have better taste in music than to listen to pointless pop music

Pinkyyy we get it, your children are saints.

This is what happens, young men and women in the spotlight are bullied ridiculed pushed and pushed and then when they fall over the edge and commit suicide everyone wrings their hands and says "oh they were lovely, oh they had everything why did they kill themselves" like it's some surprise. Not long ago Shaun Mendes was being harassed about his sexuality. I always wonder how the 1D boys managed to get through undamaged. And today seeing the Welsh rugby player crying about being hounded into revealing he is HIV reminded me of Stephen Gately being forced to come out all those years ago. We dont own pop stars. We dont make the same demands of people in power why make it of those who want to sing?!?!

You may not like the music, but it's not pointless.

Everyone uses social media

Utter bullshit. I don't use it. I have a few close friends who don't either. We are early thirties. It's not essential part of life.

I never said she's a hypocrite. I said pulling back from social media would be a wise thing for someone in this situation.

you said the word, not me

Is that your lame attempt at being clever? It's perfectly clear I was not using that word to reflect my view of her but to cut to the truth of your own views which are viciously judgemental and mysoginistic.

I agree that pop stars don't need to be role models- they can be who they want to be.

Of course pop music isn't pointless. It's point is that it brings people pleasure and they enjoy listening, dancing and watching the videos. Life would be shit if we all liked the same 4 bands. Personally they're not by cup of tea but I'm not so arrogant to think that just because I don't like a group it means that they have no point.

Oh please. You watch one son story documentary and suddenly the girl can do no wrong? Ridiculous.

Sob story*

Wow!! U really are exceptionally thick aren't you?

No, I'm not. I could say the same about someone who believes everything they watch on television.

Carry on, am learning alot listening to you....

1. No one send jesy can do no wrong, just that bullying anyone for their appearance is wrong
2. A simple look through the press and social media will show you the facts and the abuse girls like her receive

Do behave. They're all crying tears of sorrow for her now, when they couldn't give two shots about her last week.

I watched this earlier today, with my young adult DDs. She struck me as a very emotionally fragile young woman, and one who will never be comfortable in her own skin.

I found her very naive and self absorbed too about what her family have had to endure with her emotional state. She made a comment about the young girls parents being the bravest she'd ever met - I wonder how her own Mum felt hearing that.

It was quite a depressing watch..... there was no joy in the life she has, living in a luxury home, and money in the bank, travelling the world. I wasn't really sure how I felt about her at the end of it.

I felt so heartbroken for what she has had to endure and the thing is that I genuinely believe Little Mix wouldn’t have made it if it wasn’t for her. She was the stand out member at the start - a bit curvier than other pop stars but still strikingly beautiful - she seemed much more real than other pop stars and much more interesting. I know mums that have larger daughters who actively encouraged their daughters to be into Little Mix in the early days because Jesy was a fantastic role model to bigger girls.
It would be fantastic if this started a backlash against social media companies which forced them to do something about trolls and become more responsible about individuals wellbeing. Also if it leads to people being more thoughtful in their online actions.
I do also think that management are failing the young pop stars in their care too, it’s shameful that they don’t do more to protect them against harsh negativity.

@Span1elsRock I agree.

The saddest thing for me was her mom saying she'd do anything to have the old Jesy back. Since X factor she clearly has changed for the worst if even her mom is saying this.

I think it happens to a lot of celebrities. Celebrity fame is not good.

@Pinkyyy you must lead a very unhappy life. I'm starting to think you are MNs answer to Hopkins.
No one is crying over a sob story. We are shocked and disgusted that a young woman- public eye or not - was convinced her best course of action to make the noise stop was suicide.
And as you seem to feel we all should condemn Jesy- afterall she put herself in the limelight, she dresses provocatively, yada yada yada- what about Sian the girl who wasn't in the public eye, wasn't a "role model" but a 16 year old, normal, school girl?

Or was that her fault too for having an interest in social media?

And for the record, your DC will at some point discover social media, but with an attitude like yours, you will have no idea as they will very probably have it behind your back. As a result, you'll never, like I do, have the opportunity to police what they are doing online/on social media. You won't have an open and safe dialogue with them as, heaven forbid, they are bullied on it they have felt they had to sign up without your knowledge.

You really are a horrible human being. I couldn't give a rat's arsehow shite I thought anyone's singing was, whether they dress as a nun or shake their arse onstage in rhinestones and not much else. Trolls are cunts. No one deserves to feel so shit they want to die.

Now do bore off and join the Hopkins lot elsewhere, trying to downplay how vile she is and how contemptible her words and Jesy's subsequent suicide attempt were.

@Hey1256 you missed the point- her Mum made that comment as before it, and thus before trolls, Jesy was a super confident girl who was comfortable in her own skin.
It was only after X Factor and exposure to dispacable, no doubt jealous trolls that she became depressed.
That is what has changed, she lacks the self belief she had prior to X Factor (like when she commented right at the start that when she was a barmaid she would watch X Factor whilst on her shift, and said to herself she knew she could win it if she applied).

@BiBiBirdie that's a very personal attack considering I haven't a clue who you are. But you clearly think you know an awful lot about me.

Actually me and my children have a very open dialogue and my girl has class and decency and her own set of views and opinions. She's not like the trash walking around naked on the internet for a few likes and she knows better than to aspire to be like them. Don't you dare try and comment on my situation with my children when you know nothing about me.

You're a stalker and a weirdo.

I'm weird?

You're the one suggesting that Jesy walks around naked?! Or are you suggesting Sian did? And thus they deserve what they get?!

Some teens are daft enough to take questionable selfies and send them to others, does that mean it's fair game to troll them into suicide? What about all the grown women hit by the iCloud attack who had private images stolen? They should have known they'd be hacked so deserve no sympathy?

You genuinely think you can call me stalker or weirdo when you suggest that any form of trolling is fine if a female shows a bit too much skin?

Are you also someone who internally thinks girls who go out in a short skirt or have a few glasses are fair game for rapists? Because your bullshit excuses for why it's ok to troll someone due to how they dress certainly sound like you are.

But please, call me out why don't you.

And this, people like this, fucking apologists, are why females have to continue to put up with this shit.
Fucksake.