Lassies of Lallybroch part 2.....SPOILERS

[Drywhitethanks]

Because we can't wait until next year for season 3. Highbrow discussion of Jamie's knees, hair and anything else Outlander

Dammit, stupid auto correct, that should of course be Dougal

I love Rachel as well, dry, a good strong female character who isn't completely annoying. Agree as well about the series writers, they are good at getting past the wordiness and extraneous plot lines and fluff while still being really true to the main story and the thrust of the books.

That's so true. Watched ep 115 a coupe of days ago and thought thank fuck they didn't do the wolf versus Claire story.

And they keep the best of the book dialogue in

They do miss out the humour a bit though. I missed Jamie's sausage fight from DIA

Hello Lassies! Have been an Outlander-loving lurker for quite some time. Have almost finished reading Written inMyOwnHearts Blood and halfway through watching season 2. I love,love, love it all, but the thing that is niggling at me more than anything is this: Why and how does Frank see the "ghost" of Jamie right at the start of the story? Any ideas?

There are some fan theories that it's Jamie's ghost looking over Claire while he is in his 200 years of purgatory but it's not explained. DG has said she will answer this riddle in the final book.

Final book! Final book! You mean it's not going to go on forever !!!!!!!!!!!!

Love this pic of older and younger Fergus, Cesar and Romann.

The final book is years away though, the next one is meant to be the penultimate one, but they said that about book 5. Personally I wonder if the explanation of everything is going to be a bit weak, so she puts off writing it. I also think the same about Game of Thrones, think that ending will be a disappointment.

As far as GoT goes, I thing George Martin has lost track and doesn't know how to pull everything together in a half decent way. that's the problem with such a big world with so many plot threads going at once. It's just like WoT, Brandyn Sanderson had the de'il of a time oulling it all together after RJ died.
As far as Jamie's ghost goes, there are multiple theories out there. Personally, as I've said before, I think that jamie clearly has a bit of the Sight and, in that scene, he is actually dreaming of Claire. The "ghost" is his dream self. He tells her in one of the later books that he dreamt of her in a wee room surrounded by light that he knew must be electricity. He dreams regularly of Brianna and the children. I think that DG hasn't made much of this but might do later.

Love the Fergus mini me pic!

I'm totally confused about the ghost bit. Claire hadn't met him yet then, but chronologically he had met her,and I guess she had, but how does that work because she can't remember because she hasn't travelled back at that point or is it that they haven't met yet because she hasn't travelled back, but because he has the sight he can see what was going to happen?............it's giving me a headache ! And TBH I don't really care, just w ant her to turn up in the print shop and get in with it..............

You could tie yourself in knots over it. Personally, I don't think its that important, really. Just a nice, romantic wee aside. Can't say that on any of the mad fan sites, though. That would be like the time I told a christian home ed group that I thought Adam and Eve was allegorical! That wee incident got me licked off the group as a faithless heathen, especially riding on the coat tails of the fact that my branch of Christianity has cessational believes re the gifts of the spirit. LOL!

helllloooo lassies I misseeeedddd yoooooooooooou!!!!

So, I will tell you what my life has been like lately, ever since finishing the books.

I mourned for about a week, read the Scottish Prisoner, then decided I needed to snap out of Outlander mania because Jamie was spoiling me for real life and I was basically living in a parallel universe.

I tried to fill the huge Jamie-shaped void in my soul with a bit of Poldark, a few historical romances (some too shitty to repeat, others that I could at a stretch recommend) but nothing, nothing was working.

So last night I started season one from scratch

re season 3... I wished they scrapped the whole of the Voyager plot. It's all ridiculous and I skimmed SO MUCH. I didn't even remember who Mamacita was! And please let us not talk of the Suckling Frank incident - I need brain bleach for that!

Definitely the weakest of the series, I thought it started becoming wonderful once again once they got to the Ridge...

Otoh I heartily approve of adult Fergus!

mamacita? Aka I can't remember her either . I'm in the same place and have started the Lord John books nearly finished first one and am building up to the Scottish Prisoner. Have read a couple of extracts from her next Outlander book on the DG website but not sure I want to spoil it rubbish, of course I'll read them all

Aka. Lol! That's brilliant. Thanks for sharing you can't snap out of your Outlander obsession. I won't bother trying then.
I'm still reading book 7 and rewatch series 1 regularly. I honestly don't think I'll ever tire of watching ep 7.

Series 2 bloopers...

Love it

Nothing can ever fill the Jamie shaped void in your soul. Be warned, you are all now ruined for life. You will spend eternity searching. You will develop unrealistic expectations of real life men (sex several times a night in middle age, constantly consuming love, hot eyesex, Romans and humour combined with power and strength etc. etc.) Even Aiden Turner will fall short. Oh aye, and men in kilts will suddenly make your knickers go up in a blue lau even if you're not Scottish.

There is no point in trying to go back to your previous life.

Dry, it was hilarious. You'd have thought that I was Satan himself the way they went on. All about protecting their children from the evils of Satanic deceptions and keeping free from ungodly, worldly thinking. They needed to keep their wee group clean and pure and obviously my beliefs weren't compatible with that! The only bit that I regretted was the fact that I could no longer be a voice of reason in a situation where a younger mum was being horribly abused by her husband, physically, emotionally and spiritually. They were all telling her to be a more godly wife, to be the wife her husband needed and to wait on the Lord. I was telling her that, ime, abuse only escalates and that she should take steps to protect herself and her very young kids. That went down like a lead balloon, as well. I just wasn't submissive or godly enough. All she was supposed to do was give her problems to God, and submit more to her violent husband! It's actually terrifying that there are a whole host of women out there who believe that kind of thing. IMHO, some branches of evangelical Christianity have a lot to answer for.

My dd has had a theory for a few years, since she started watching Gossip Guff, Vampire Diaries, The Originals and other such tripe with unbelievable numbers of unfeasibly hot blokes. She thinks that, under the Antarctic snows or in the mountains of Patagonia or some equally remote hiding place, there is a secret hot guy lab where the makers of these programmes create all these fantasy men. When they haven't introduced a new one for a few weeks or when viewer numbers dip, they pop off to the lab and get a new one. Shadow hunters and Aiden Turner have confirmed this for her. (Alec from SH and Aiden are her latest true loves.) I think that is where DG found Jamie, the hot guy lab, and all the rest of them are just futile, second rate attempts to recreate the initial success. I mean, Damon Salvatore might be scorching hot but he's no Jamie Fraser!

Less rather shocking that these views are still held in this day and age

Getting on very well with Lord John books. Filling the void nicely. Skipped No2 and went straight to The Scottish Prisoner, I know you can read them individually but she does refer to stuff in the previous books. Will do 2 next, back to Hellwater....my chronology is all over the place. Clever how she keeps Claire alive in the dreams.DG, for all her peculiarities is an excellent romantic writer.

I'm off to the Lakes next week..........holding a faint hope that I might stumble across the Helwater set of course it won't be filmed there

I've been ready DGs "I give you my body" her guide to writing sex scenes. It's surprisingly good not only as a collection of the (ahem) more interesting passages of her books but also a revealing look at how she writes. Essentially the characters are everything, if the characters wouldn't do it or say it then it doesn't go in no matter how interesting a plot point it might have been. I think this is why I enjoy the books so much. Whatever is going on the characters always ring true.

I know, dry, it terrifies me. And the nore EC churches of this kind grow, the more women are accepting these teachings and and leaving themselves vulnerable and, inevitably, blaming themselves if things go wrong, because they are not godly and submissive enough.

Hi all, am in groundhog day (willingly) here, rewatching series 1, again. I think I like the reckoning episode just about best, as it's mostly Jamie's pov. Still reading DIA which I missed out, but life is busy and reading is an extravagance I haven't time for. But I watch and work in the evenings.

Have any of you come across Black Sails? Also by Starz on Amazon, it's set a bit earlier than Outlander, and in the Caribbean; so I'm betting it's all the ships and sets they'll use for series 3. Plus, it's fab, and has Toby Stephens as a very fierce pirate, he's one of my all time crushes Its no Outlander. but it's not bad to fill the void!