Rev

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I just realised- the old grey haired bloke in the restaurant was the boy from Press Gang. I am old!

Loved Robert doing the mass, more of a catholic attitude I would have said

And the three knocks at the end...

Brilliant series

i watched episode five today and was so sad!
even if robert pulls something out o the bag, i don't see how adam could go on at st saviours-surely his position would be untenable?

i hope they move away somewhere lovely-away from the hellhole they live in!
the symbolism has been done really well-the bishop washing his hands really struck me...

I suspect we could over-work the analogies. The script writers had to develop characters in the first two series with prob. not much idea about how things were going to develop up to and including this last one. We could be expecting too much esp. looking back and looking for clues.

As a bye the bye, I'm a bit at how the black characters are being portrayed. Adoha as a busty, jealous, over-sexed middle-aged woman, and the guy who turns up clearly with MH issues.

I think the allegories only appear in this series.

Pan I agree about the black characters.

yes, it's a bit odd. For a London inner-city church the only black characters are 'amusing' ones, and supportive of stereo-types. And a bit about Nigel being a surpressed gay person? But the photo-shop of his 'girl friend' was so cringe-worthy!

I'm not sure I agree about the black characters. Adoha is a very recognisable Nigerian version of a well known C of E parishioner "type", I think she rings true. And Mick, sadly also rings true as a catastrophic victim of crack - there was a tragic episode in an earlier series where he tried to get clean. Are we missing some other black/non-white characters? Yes I guess so; there was the imam (who was great), and the bromance/old flame bloke from series 1, but not much more. But actually, it's quite realistic that in that environment you do get a lot of well meaning, very white middle liberals doing things in the community - an area that looks very mixed on the street suddenly becomes completely monochrome behind closed doors.

Thanks Bunny, that's really interesting. I don't live in an inner-city area so don't really know the neighbourhood dynamics.

Interesting Bunny. For me same as Sunshine.

I am going to toss the following out for debate:

Mary Magdalene: Alex or Ellie?

The resurrection: how will that be handled? Closure of St Saviours and 11th hour reprieve? Will Adam get sacked and rise again?

Peodophile man was a metaphor for the tax collector? Maybe Zacchaeus?

3 knocks, is that similar to the cock crowing? That was three times I think?

I think Adam will leave St Saviour's but the church will be saved as a result-somehow.

Obviously a fake I think and I don't know how Adam could resist taking the piss after what happened

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Three knocks is supposed to signify a deity, I think it does represent the cock crowing

But also Catholics have a midnight mass (sort of) over Easter

The whole church is dark and gloomy, the prayers relate to the death of Christ the reading to the crucifixion etc

Then the priest and co go out of the church and round to the closed front door. They knock three times, throw the doors open, al the lights come on and it gets as jolly as a catholic mass gets...representing the resurrection

So although Adam is not catholic I think that maybe the three knocks represents something specific to Easter?

Probably well off there!

My confirmation name is Mary Magdalene (just thought I would throw that in there)

Just seen this thread! Rev is a superb show isn't it. The last two episodes have been brilliant. Adam is a great character. The writing is so fab/multi layered.
I keep telling people to watch it and they won't.

In fact, we have an Easter Vigil service in our C of E church on the Saturday evening before Easter Day. Pretty similar to the one Rufus describes except we start with a fire outside the church, then bring a candle into the darkened church ( but don't have any knocking).

After some Old Testament readings and prayers all the lights come on, people ring bells and resurrection is celebrated.

It's a very old service going back to the early church. Not sure how many C of E churches have it - not the majority though. Our church is quite 'high'.

Caught up with it last night, I'd not enjoyed the series so far but wow! It was just wonderful. Has the siren going off on the chicken shop after he'd been denied thrice been noted?
I agree about the black characters, but it probably is a true reflection of london cofe parishes- there are so many vibrant Pentecostal and evangelical churches here that it's almost perverse to struggle on with a standard cofe church, especially if it's struggling.

Well the verse about Jesus standing at the door and knocking is in Revelation 3. That is him knocking at the door of a lazy and self-involved church, that was happy in its cosy bubble.

I think the Saturday Vigil is standard in the Anglican church? Our local parish does it (naturally followed by a wine reception at the back of the church ), and although that church is pretty high, my fairly happy clappy childhood church also does it.

Has the siren going off on the chicken shop after he'd been denied thrice been noted?

Hmm what do you think that might represent Helpys?

I'm still enjoying Rev but was catching up with latest episode last night on iplayer and DS(12) was watching alongside me and unfortunately it soon became unsuitable viewing for DS when Adam started talking about cutting Nigel's balls off.
tbh I would find this going too far, unrealistic, and too dark myself, but watching with DS made me much more aware.
I think there's an element of popularising it by having darker, supposedly more dramatic, story-lines, which is always a shame as it's rare to find a good character based drama these days.
The Eastenders effect you could say.