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Rude, massive DS (14) seems increasingly unparentable - help?

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GlumSunday · 04/11/2018 17:53

Caveat: he's doing fine at school, he has nice friends, he's active (loads of sport), teachers and friends' parents are glowing about him. So he's not all bad by any stretch. But ...

He is unpleasant company a lot of the time at home. I give him the space he wants most of the time - the family meals I'd like aren't worth pushing for anymore because the atmosphere at the table can be so grim for everyone else. But when we do have to interact, it's more often than not coloured with sarcasm, contempt, disgust. Yesterday he told me to fuck off, and that I'm irrelevant, after I challenged him about an over-the-top Xbox-related rage fit (swearing, shouting, crashing about in his room).

I'm having a tough time with work and a few other stresses at the moment, and don't have rhino-hide skin. The way he talks to me is really starting to get to me.

I have the "Get out of my life but first take me and Alex to town" book - which is the one thing that makes me think this is still (just about) within the realms of normal teen arsehole-ness and he might yet become a lovely young man (we genuinely see glimmers of this).

But I feel I just can't parent him effectively anymore. He's a very very tall rugby player, broadening out, deep voice, side-burns - he started developing at nine, so has looked like a much older teen/young man for a while, and I find this complicates disciplining him. I am probably a bit scared of him, which makes me feel so weak and cross with myself.

He lives with me and parenting is down to me 99% of the time (he sees but never stays with his dad). When I call his dad to get some help with his behaviour, there's usually a suggestion I'm not handling it well enough or should have done this or he'd have done that. What he doesn't appreciate is that (a) he's still stronger than DS and (b) I have a much younger child in the house who I don't want to traumatise by inducing a man-sized tantrum from DS. (Before yesterday, DS last had one about a year ago and it was very stressful for all to be around.)

I've talked to DS and he insists nothing else is bothering him. This just seems to be our dynamic currently - and it saddens me, as we've been close in the past. I find it emotionally exhausting, and I find myself treading on eggshells around him and unable to make him do anything anymore.

Especially if you're on your own with an over-sized teen, how do you deal with endless rudeness? How do you make them get on with homework they're leaving to the last minute (or is it down to them now to mess up and deal with the consequences?)? How do you get them to do a few chores? How do you make them come off phones/consoles and get ready for bed? Or do I just give up now and let him work it out for himself? I don't want to baby him, nor turn my back and withdraw parenting he still needs (even if he doesn't realise it).

I'm finding this stage really, really hard. Sad

Thanks.

OP posts:
WhoopiGoldbergsCat · 10/12/2018 19:04

Haha soooo tempted, I do flick the Vs behind his back though!
I'm going to get caught one day.

GonzoFlyingProducts · 11/12/2018 23:43

Can I ask why he never stays with Dad ?

nickatiara · 26/09/2024 20:05

GlumSunday · 04/11/2018 17:53

Caveat: he's doing fine at school, he has nice friends, he's active (loads of sport), teachers and friends' parents are glowing about him. So he's not all bad by any stretch. But ...

He is unpleasant company a lot of the time at home. I give him the space he wants most of the time - the family meals I'd like aren't worth pushing for anymore because the atmosphere at the table can be so grim for everyone else. But when we do have to interact, it's more often than not coloured with sarcasm, contempt, disgust. Yesterday he told me to fuck off, and that I'm irrelevant, after I challenged him about an over-the-top Xbox-related rage fit (swearing, shouting, crashing about in his room).

I'm having a tough time with work and a few other stresses at the moment, and don't have rhino-hide skin. The way he talks to me is really starting to get to me.

I have the "Get out of my life but first take me and Alex to town" book - which is the one thing that makes me think this is still (just about) within the realms of normal teen arsehole-ness and he might yet become a lovely young man (we genuinely see glimmers of this).

But I feel I just can't parent him effectively anymore. He's a very very tall rugby player, broadening out, deep voice, side-burns - he started developing at nine, so has looked like a much older teen/young man for a while, and I find this complicates disciplining him. I am probably a bit scared of him, which makes me feel so weak and cross with myself.

He lives with me and parenting is down to me 99% of the time (he sees but never stays with his dad). When I call his dad to get some help with his behaviour, there's usually a suggestion I'm not handling it well enough or should have done this or he'd have done that. What he doesn't appreciate is that (a) he's still stronger than DS and (b) I have a much younger child in the house who I don't want to traumatise by inducing a man-sized tantrum from DS. (Before yesterday, DS last had one about a year ago and it was very stressful for all to be around.)

I've talked to DS and he insists nothing else is bothering him. This just seems to be our dynamic currently - and it saddens me, as we've been close in the past. I find it emotionally exhausting, and I find myself treading on eggshells around him and unable to make him do anything anymore.

Especially if you're on your own with an over-sized teen, how do you deal with endless rudeness? How do you make them get on with homework they're leaving to the last minute (or is it down to them now to mess up and deal with the consequences?)? How do you get them to do a few chores? How do you make them come off phones/consoles and get ready for bed? Or do I just give up now and let him work it out for himself? I don't want to baby him, nor turn my back and withdraw parenting he still needs (even if he doesn't realise it).

I'm finding this stage really, really hard. Sad

Thanks.

Just wondering, did he grow into a lovely young man OP? Was it just a bad phase??

AgileGreenSeal · 26/09/2024 21:15

LadyOfTheFlowers · 04/11/2018 19:54

I'm going to watch this thread with interest I think as find myself in a similar situation. To make matters worse I have people adding their opinions with no experience themselves which only adds to my frustration.

I’m going to pay attention too as I’m seeing this in a younger grandson- he’s starting to get seriously enraged and aggressive and he idolises his dad, who has a long history of domestic abuse. His mum is at her wits’ end.

nickatiara · 27/09/2024 08:24

CeriseCerise · 28/11/2018 12:41

DS age 13-15 the worst, 16 slightly better, but still not easy. I do think they are too long at home in a way. Its fine if you live in a big house, but cramped up in a flat, hot-housed at school with few social freedoms, must be frustrating for them too. I think they are at home too long. In medaieval times the knights were sent to other knights houses at 14 to learn how to be a knight. And the lower orders were sent to their apprenticeships around the same age. They knew what they were doing!

I have really struggled with my son, and have friends in a similar position, as a previous posters says though I also understand it is a bit of a dirty secret how shitty some teenage boys are. However I have one friend who has a son she has had no problems with!!

My son is 16 now and gets himself up and ready for school, if he's late which he often is, thats his problem. He does his own washing alot of the time, keeps his room reasonable, and cooks for himself those days I can't. I got tired of the whine "there isn't anything to eeeeaaaaaattttt" Grin, so now I give him £20 per week on Sundays to feed himself in the gaps during the week. Best thing ever! But I still have days where I just have to tell him to stay in his room its that bad.

I also thought when son was 14 I can't do this for another 4 years, I just can't. However, 2 years on we're still here and with post-GCSEs just round the corner, I can see the light some days.

Strength to all.

Also interested to hear how your DS is these days @CeriseCerise - he sounds so similar to mine.

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