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Rude, massive DS (14) seems increasingly unparentable - help?

205 replies

GlumSunday · 04/11/2018 17:53

Caveat: he's doing fine at school, he has nice friends, he's active (loads of sport), teachers and friends' parents are glowing about him. So he's not all bad by any stretch. But ...

He is unpleasant company a lot of the time at home. I give him the space he wants most of the time - the family meals I'd like aren't worth pushing for anymore because the atmosphere at the table can be so grim for everyone else. But when we do have to interact, it's more often than not coloured with sarcasm, contempt, disgust. Yesterday he told me to fuck off, and that I'm irrelevant, after I challenged him about an over-the-top Xbox-related rage fit (swearing, shouting, crashing about in his room).

I'm having a tough time with work and a few other stresses at the moment, and don't have rhino-hide skin. The way he talks to me is really starting to get to me.

I have the "Get out of my life but first take me and Alex to town" book - which is the one thing that makes me think this is still (just about) within the realms of normal teen arsehole-ness and he might yet become a lovely young man (we genuinely see glimmers of this).

But I feel I just can't parent him effectively anymore. He's a very very tall rugby player, broadening out, deep voice, side-burns - he started developing at nine, so has looked like a much older teen/young man for a while, and I find this complicates disciplining him. I am probably a bit scared of him, which makes me feel so weak and cross with myself.

He lives with me and parenting is down to me 99% of the time (he sees but never stays with his dad). When I call his dad to get some help with his behaviour, there's usually a suggestion I'm not handling it well enough or should have done this or he'd have done that. What he doesn't appreciate is that (a) he's still stronger than DS and (b) I have a much younger child in the house who I don't want to traumatise by inducing a man-sized tantrum from DS. (Before yesterday, DS last had one about a year ago and it was very stressful for all to be around.)

I've talked to DS and he insists nothing else is bothering him. This just seems to be our dynamic currently - and it saddens me, as we've been close in the past. I find it emotionally exhausting, and I find myself treading on eggshells around him and unable to make him do anything anymore.

Especially if you're on your own with an over-sized teen, how do you deal with endless rudeness? How do you make them get on with homework they're leaving to the last minute (or is it down to them now to mess up and deal with the consequences?)? How do you get them to do a few chores? How do you make them come off phones/consoles and get ready for bed? Or do I just give up now and let him work it out for himself? I don't want to baby him, nor turn my back and withdraw parenting he still needs (even if he doesn't realise it).

I'm finding this stage really, really hard. Sad

Thanks.

OP posts:
Nicknamesalltaken · 25/11/2018 21:24

Sport has worked its magic - but this year its dropped off (DS was playing for three teams, now down to one due to age) and has had an injury as well. It’s had a real impact.

Amazonian27 · 25/11/2018 21:37

I have a rude DS nearly 15. Seems to be doing well at school but appears to be coasting in terms of the little time and effort he puts into his homework. I don’t bother nagging him about this now as it caused full scale arguments every time I mentioned it. He is at a GS so I hope they will pick up on this.
The only things he seems to be interested in is his phone, iPad, Xbox, going to the toilet frequently and occasionally the dog.
He grunts moans shouts is argumentative disinterested in us and disrespectful etc.
I leave him to get organised with his school books and PE kit, leave him his washing to put away in a pile on his chest of draws. I don’t wash anything that doesn’t make it to the wash basket. I expect him to make his bed on a morning and put his dirty clothes in the wash basket off the floor but this rarely happens.
I am hoping things will calm down. I insist on no phones or iPads at the table. Also phones/iPads have to be on charge downstairs at 9pm. He absolutely hates this.

captainoftheshipwreck · 25/11/2018 21:39

Yep boxing was a life saver

captainoftheshipwreck · 25/11/2018 21:40

Sorry nickname - cross post!

WereYouHareWhenIWasFox · 25/11/2018 21:42

It is hard. No advice, I am sorry. Just to say they do get through it. Eventually. My son was quite hideous between the ages of 13 and 17, but he turned his life around, went travelling, got some really nice friends and is now doing really well at university.

Wolfcub · 25/11/2018 21:51

God I’m not sure I can face another five years of this shit. Did anyone’s ds turn nice earlier than 17

Smileandwhatever · 25/11/2018 21:53

Omg another 4 years!!!!

WereYouHareWhenIWasFox · 25/11/2018 21:53

Yes, I realise that may not have been helpful. His worst period was probably 14-15, then he did become a bit more reasonable quite gradually. However at 17, it was like a switch! Like Harry Enfield’s Kevin in reverse. Quite extraordinary.

madmum5811 · 25/11/2018 22:07

Spent a week without the x box gear so cold turkey. The following weekend we said he could have it for an hour 9 till 10 pm. five days a week. We could not remove the router a level revision he is doing design so spends hours on a specialist building programme.

I wish I had done it years ago. He actually comes in and sits down with us now for a chat, previously he would have been shouting at a screen.

We always eat together though.

brizzledrizzle · 25/11/2018 22:18

I've just finished a book by a gp which had clips from medical notes such as 'she has two teenagers but no other abnormalities Grin

In my experience age 13-14 is the worst

LuthersCoat · 25/11/2018 22:32

Anyone else get nasty insults from their DSs, or is it just me?

Apparently, tonight, I am a "skanky bitch". I laughed pretty hard, which I'm guessing wasn't the desired response Grin

Smileandwhatever · 25/11/2018 22:34

Lutherscoat I laughed so much at that 😂😂 don't worry wereyouhare it's good to know what's in store 😱🤪

EvaReady · 26/11/2018 08:09

Agree 13 - 14 were the worst, hideous at times - I had to change almost as much as they did - handing over the control of the ship is very hard but it has to be done. They are 15 now and generally life is good with them, not perfect but we manage most weeks without ww3 breaking out.

Smileandwhatever · 26/11/2018 12:22

Hooray another positive story - I will hold on to these and pray for my life to fast forward 2 years - I’m praying for a good week as DS has changed his Xbox time from 6.30-9.30 so he shouldn’t be moping about for the whole evening and technically homework and tidying room should be done. I won’t hold my breath though 🤪

madmum5811 · 26/11/2018 12:31

If it is any comfort friends with daughters, say I got off lightly Grin

Smileandwhatever · 26/11/2018 12:49

I have a 14 year old step-daughter as well that lives with us and although she is moody and a little bit grunty she is nowhere near as moany as DS. Guess we’ve just got to grit our teeth and hold on for a couple of years 😱

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 26/11/2018 13:44

How do you get your teen out of bed and to school on time?

brizzledrizzle · 26/11/2018 14:21

Set the alarm for earlier than needed and have a staged get up from a gentle wake up right through to a cold flannel (only needed that once) and then go and sit in the car at the appointed departure time and drive off two minutes later. When the engine starts he tends to come running down the drive without his shoes on and leaps in the car muttering under his breath.

I've only left without him once, he doesn't like to walk because his bag is heavy. He could go on his bike if I wasn't giving him a lift but he's never bothered to take the shed key off my key ring so if I go without him so does the key.

If he's cycling anyway I just expect him to go on time - he's the one who will do the detention not me. He knows that if he gets a detention he'll never hear the end of it from the older two - when they got their single detention he was super critical and wouldn't let it go so now he's going all out to avoid detention as he knows what they will be like to him Grin

madmum5811 · 26/11/2018 15:27

Used to get son out of bed at 7.30 am, he would then spend half an hour in the shower, dozing I suspect. But he said it was the only way he could wake up. Now he does it as a matter of course. Yep did the cold flannel on the feet of his brother, it does work, but you have to run fast and shut the door behind you lol.....

Nicknamesalltaken · 26/11/2018 17:06

I don’t. Getting up for school is his responsibility. I shout and check he’s up at 7.45 but that’s all. He cuts it fine every single day. He usually just angrily yells back “WHAT??!!” So I know he’s awake 😄

Amazonian27 · 26/11/2018 17:48

I have a moody 14 nearly 15 year old who I went to the station to give him a
lift home tonight. I got up with him at 6.30 this morning to give him a lift to the station and I defrosted the car whilst chevying him along as he had been playing on his iPad until the last minute. I asked him to tidy his room up tonight without excuses as it’s a complete tip and I have been asking him to do it for ages. He has refused shouted abuse at me spent half an hour locked in the bathroom on his phone now he is on his phone upstairs he’s 6ft 1 with deep voice so I can’t take his phone off him until his dad gets in but I have hidden his iPad Xbox controllers and tv remote in the boot of my car.

madmum5811 · 26/11/2018 17:50

It is a good start Amazon. Let dad sort out the rest when he gets home. Stand firm... It really is like dealing with a puppy or a small child, donkey, stick or carrot sigh...

captainoftheshipwreck · 26/11/2018 18:22

Tonight I am RIDICULOUS because I won't let him stay out all night. Water off a duck's back. Grin

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 26/11/2018 18:33

He’s been told that he has to get up at 7 - which is when I normally start calling him - and if he’s up at 7:40 I consider that a win. I will need to start calling him at 6:30...

madmum5811 · 26/11/2018 19:10

No call him at 7am, tell him that is his first and last call. He will not believe you but stick with it. Be polite, firm, friendly but hold fast. Who does he think will wake him up at college.