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Struggling with getting older, fatter and uglier

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ArgumentativeAntithetical · 27/06/2024 13:20

That's it, really. I turn 51 in a few weeks and I loathe what I see in the mirror. I know I'm supposed to relish the freedom from the male gaze/ expectations of attractiveness etc etc that ageing brings but instead I just feel shit. Like I'm sinking into obscurity to join the stereotypical ranks of slightly overweight, plain, dull middle-aged women.

I try to eat well, I get a bit of exercise (although not enough), I try to dress reasonably stylishly (although fuck-all fits anymore). But I caught sight of myself yesterday in a sundress I've worn for years and always thought was flattering, and I just looked like a sweaty sack of potatoes. I'm not sure that DH really fancies me anymore.

I hate that I feel this way. It feels vain and inconsequential to worry about the size of my stomach or the number of chins I have. But fucking hell I don't feel like ME anymore.

Can anyone relate? I'm making myself miserable.

(And yes I am peri and on HRT!)

OP posts:
AnybodyAnywhere · 27/06/2024 16:35

69 here and having the time of my life 😊.
I eat reasonably well but I’m not obsessed with it. Enjoy a pint of cider or two. Walk a lot, with friends or with Ramblers. Camping at 5 festivals this year, on my own cos husband hates fests 😂.

I know I’m older and maybe I cared more in my 50’s but there’s more to you and more to life than what you see in the mirror. It so sad to think of women being unhappy because of a few extra pounds or wrinkles - it’s part of aging and it’s much easier if you accept it and stay happy and healthy.

greengreyblue · 27/06/2024 16:39

It’s a bad day/ week/ month op. Sounds like you have a great career and still educating yourself. We all age and it’s tough. I’m 53 and always looked younger than my age until about 49/50. I don’t have many lines but I am noticing my face is starting to head south, the marionette lines are appearing and my neck which has always been slim and long has started to wrinkle. It is weird when you do t look how you feel/ remember yourself. I always remind myself of those that are no longer here and didn’t make 53, give myself a metaphorical slap and get on with life.

greengreyblue · 27/06/2024 16:41

@AnybodyAnywhere you sound fabulous! Posts like yours help me look forward with positivity. Enjoy your festivals.

Bignanna · 27/06/2024 16:43

HesterRoon · 27/06/2024 16:29

I’m 61 and get you. Try and do things which make you feel good. A good haircut works wonders-my hair started getting wavier in middle age,so have shaggy layers with a fringe instead of an old triangle bob. Much better. I get my eyebrows tinted and shaped-worth every penny of 16 quid. I have varicose veins, old age warts and moles so sadly, don’t want to wear revealing clothes anymore-have to look for longer dresses and higher necks but there is plenty of flattering stuff out there which doesn’t look like a sack. I do make sure I get lots of exercise which has kept me in shape rather than flabby-makes a huge difference. And definitely think about looking back in 10 years time and thinking didnt I look great-make the most of what you have rather than longing for how you used to be. And don’t be fazed by the misogyny comments-my dh is the same age and he still gets a pang over a bit of hair loss and chin not as firm as it used to be.

You can easily do something about the veins, warts and moles! The frilly jawline and bullfrog neck is doable- with a good surgeon!

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 27/06/2024 16:44

CharlotteRumpling · 27/06/2024 13:55

Yes, I never see middle aged men referring to themselves as plain and dull, though they may be overweight. Does Boris Johnson bumble about putting himself down? No, he thinks he is the cat's whiskers. Of course, it's hard to defy society's subliminal message that women owe pretty to the world.

No, men still swan around thinking they own the place and think that they look like Brad Pitt when they look like an arm pit 🤣

I was the same OP, I lost a lot of weight and feel loads better , I had a health scare so did it for health reasons primarily but I like myself again now and some days I think I look fabulous 😉

HesterRoon · 27/06/2024 16:49

Bignanna · 27/06/2024 16:43

You can easily do something about the veins, warts and moles! The frilly jawline and bullfrog neck is doable- with a good surgeon!

I don’t have any sagging jaw thank goodness, but have lots of warty things on my neck and décolleté. I envy women my age with lovely skin. I’ve got good scaffolding and hardly any wrinkles but these awful warts and tags have multiplied! What can I do?

Disturbia81 · 27/06/2024 16:50

It's so sad you feel like this OP. I feel more confident as I age. Society has done a number on you but your husband isn't helping.
I will always keep my funky style, bright makeup and hair, nothing will dull me!

CharlotteRumpling · 27/06/2024 16:50

Hang on @ArgumentativeAntithetical you are a yoga instructor, fast for 16 hours a day? I am fairly certain you do not look anything as awful as you think. Do you have very high standards, or are/were you very attractive?

I was only ever average when young, though I was very slim.

Superblyput · 27/06/2024 16:50

IndianSummer78 · 27/06/2024 15:05

I know I'm supposed to relish the freedom from the male gaze/ expectations of attractiveness etc etc that ageing brings but instead I just feel shit.

I honestly think this is complete bullshit and how you feel is totally normal. It's the type of thing said by women who are in a solid relationship or who are single/celibate and happy to remain so. Many many woman aren't in these categories and if you want to have attract a partner for a sexual relationship you have to be sexually attractive, which means conforming to the beauty standards of the era/country you live in.

We can tell ourselves our value doesn't lie in our looks as much as we like. Fact is, we are treated differently as we age or gain weight. Society in general responds more favourably to younger, slimmer, prettier women. If you used to be one and now aren't, it's natural to be upset by that.

Some people also find all the primping and preening of beauty processes to be a faff and a chore and those are the ones glad to be free of the expectations of it. For those of us for whom it's always been a bit of a hobby and we enjoyed seeing the end result, it hits differently. Although nobody is stopping us from doing all the beauty stuff, to not be able to achieve the end result no matter what is disappointing. Stopping the processes because it feels pointless isn't a freedom for those of us who enjoyed it, it's a loss.

Absolutely superbly put. I LOVE this post ( and soaps retorts to people on page 1).

I’m 51 too OP.

I’m a straight woman with a strong sex drive still and to get sex I need men to be attracted to me. It’s that simple. I also love dressing up and putting on make up and liking what I see in the mirror. These things fading and dying is hard. I have loads of hobbies and interests, but I liked feeling good when I got dressed up. I liked the male gaze ( not harassment, but just noticing men checking you out). I go dressed up today and went out and not one man even noticed my existence, not even those older than me. I’m a straight woman who likes sex with men. Of course that’s going to bother me!

I need time to adapt to this. The support of other women to see me through this would be great. But being lectured that I’m not being feminist enough or need a hobby does not help.

Being bothered by the waning of your attractiveness to people you are attracted to, or the loss of something that brought you joy, is perfectly normal and reasonable. Shaming women for feeling like this is not a good look.

Bignanna · 27/06/2024 16:52

HesterRoon · 27/06/2024 16:49

I don’t have any sagging jaw thank goodness, but have lots of warty things on my neck and décolleté. I envy women my age with lovely skin. I’ve got good scaffolding and hardly any wrinkles but these awful warts and tags have multiplied! What can I do?

You can buy otc products for skin tags, eg Scholl, Cryotags, or you can have them removed at a private clinic. Hav3 a look on Amazon. I wouldn’t attempt the big tags myself, though!

mountaingoatsarehairy · 27/06/2024 16:53

WishIMite · 27/06/2024 16:12

It's the 49/50 event horizon of hormonal chinny doom. You've got five years so cram in as much sex as humanly possible.

@WishIMite am 48 + still have a good jawline. I do face yoga when I can.

don’t think the menopause has hit yet tho, ARE THE CHINs COMING FOR ME ??? Despite the frikking faceyoga

mountaingoatsarehairy · 27/06/2024 16:55

@ArgumentativeAntithetical if you are a yoga teacher with good posture already then plan B is a new wardrobe and take up magic mushrooms

WishIMite · 27/06/2024 16:55

mountaingoatsarehairy · 27/06/2024 16:53

@WishIMite am 48 + still have a good jawline. I do face yoga when I can.

don’t think the menopause has hit yet tho, ARE THE CHINs COMING FOR ME ??? Despite the frikking faceyoga

Yes it's basically overnight at 49 I think. A friend told me this and I thought AHA NOT ME, I AM STILL HOT AT 48 and then I turned 49

FangsForTheMemory · 27/06/2024 16:58

I've been plain and fat all my life. I think ageing is harder on people who're attractive and used to looking good. However what I didn't reckon on is becoming COMPLETELY invisible, except to other women my age. This gets on my (droopy) tits.

BruFord · 27/06/2024 16:59

I’m 50 later this year and have recently had to accept that unless I diet stringently, a chunk of my wardrobe has to go. I’m finding that I simply don’t burn calories like I used to and there’s no point squeezing myself into jeans that are tight around the middle.

I’m still a healthy BMI, but I’ve moved from the lower end to the middle- and you know what, that’s OK. I’m not overweight, just not the same size I was 10 years ago.

I do spend on my hair, skin, and occasionally my nails, because I want to and it’s my money! If you want to do the same, OP, do it! You absolutely deserve it. 💐

My DH (52) doesn’t seem bothered by his expanding belly and his greying temples. As PP’s have said, it’s internalized misogyny that makes we women feel bad about aging.

witmum · 27/06/2024 17:00

My mindset shifted a few years ago. It is a privilege to get to 51 and to have my health.

Some people do not get the option. So I will sit in my shorts and live my body

Reallytwoappointmentsinoneday · 27/06/2024 17:01

I feel your pain OP (currently sat here munching a box of maltesers and a cuppa as I’m mega fed up).

I make an effort having my hair coloured and cut regularly, chucked all my crap clothes, sort of came up with a uniform for myself that works, mainly dresses, cardigans and nice sandals). I’m 60 next year and really feeling it, sob.

I had been making an effort with 12 hour fasting, it stopped me snacking in the evenings and although slow I did see some weight loss. Currently trying to get back into it although life is hard at the moment as a relative I live with needs lots of nourishing foodstuffs.

just read all your posts, you sound if you have the knowledge to sort things, maybe you need to make a plan to achieve it but choose manageable chunks.

BruFord · 27/06/2024 17:04

witmum · 27/06/2024 17:00

My mindset shifted a few years ago. It is a privilege to get to 51 and to have my health.

Some people do not get the option. So I will sit in my shorts and live my body

So true, @witmum My Mum developed a chronic illness in her 40’s and I’m so thankful to still be healthy. 🤞

cheezncrackers · 27/06/2024 17:05

I get it OP. I'm a very similar age to you and I stood in front of the mirror yesterday and thought to myself: 'Jesus Christ! You look like a fat frump! When the hell did that happen?'

I guess, aside from all the feminist arguments, the question is this: do you care enough to do something about it? It's all very well being a yoga teacher and fasting for 16 hours a day, if that isn't giving you the body you want. I don't want to look like a fat frump and I don't care if it's internalised misogyny - how I look directly impacts how I feel and my feelings of self-esteem and happiness - so with six weeks to go until we go on holiday I'm cutting out snacking and aiming to do something active every day. You can turn things around if you want to.

Makemydaypunk · 27/06/2024 17:11

I know celebrities have surgeons on speed dial but I do take inspiration from celebrities my age or older who look good, I was watching Eastenders the other night and Gillian Taylforth looks amazing (68) as does Michelle Collins (62), looking at Michelle on screen she doesn’t appear to have had significant work from my untrained eye, but her character on screen dresses really stylishly and she has a confidence about her when she struts across the square! Think I need to channel my inner Cindy Beale.

doublec · 27/06/2024 17:15

I realise I am only 49, but I am already five years post-menopause and recently finished six months for chemotherapy. I lost my hair and both breasts (with no reconstruction) and while I can see the ravages of chemo (and lack of hormones) on my face and body, I still think I look great.

My eyebrows have finally grown back so took the opportunity to get them professionally shaped and tinted. I also make sure I wear lipstick every day as my hair has regrown grey/white. Finding myself with a new body shape has been hard, but have taken the opportunity to sell a large part of pre-cancer wardrobe and replace it with new clothes. (I use the the word new loosely, most are used from Vinted). This has lifted my spirits enormously. Earlier today, as I walked down the street, not one but two women complimented my outfit.

Life really is too short to believe you're too old, getting fatter and uglier. If you tell yourself this, you will believe it and make little effort to take more care and attention with yourself. I don't know, but I do believe it's all about attitude.

greenpolarbear · 27/06/2024 17:16

GingerPirate · 27/06/2024 16:09

I'm 45 and don't struggle with "weight, ugliness or chins".
Not dieting, either, but obviously have other problems, before I'm jumped at for "boasting".
The thing is, I've never had kids, can that have a bearing?
I'm sure I will catch up, anyway.

I'm in my 30s and don't have kids and struggle with weight and ugliness.

orangepostbox · 27/06/2024 17:17

I agree the issue is lack of collagen. It ages how you look no matter how fit and strong you are.

orangepostbox · 27/06/2024 17:18

@Makemydaypunk virtually all women in the public eye have significant work as they get older. A surprising amount of ordinary women do as well.

Elizo · 27/06/2024 17:22

Absolutely relate. I think exercise can help. Really weird to look in the mirror and not see a face you feel is attractive. This has started happening to me. Good clothes, lose a bit of weight etc should help. Otherwise we have to accept it!