Les Parisiennes des Mamansnet: JesusFlo Superstar in a Back Lit Kaftan (Toyboy Not Included)

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I'm posting and then running but just time to say:

faustina I saw your post the other day but I don't wear black otherwise I'd have bitten your hand off right there. But thanks for such a kind and thoughtful offer.

bani, lovely to see you and I loved the German mother shopping clip, and the 'Just back from Berlin' one too - I've definitely been that woman

microbius - I was never really in the make up camp and lately I've found the easiest way to avoid falling into the dated make up trap is not to wear any. But it took 3 lockdowns to fully embrace it.

bo I'd had some further thoughts about Chiuri but now can't remember them so they can't have been that profound. I got Miss Dior and also the Chanel biog Christmas but haven't started either - they're both really nice looking books and I'm kind of worried about spilling stuff and ruining them, which is taking 'saving for best' to a whole new level.

And re outfits for avatars, I think I'm going to break ranks. I mean people this is not my world, not in the slightest but just supposing it was then I think if I had an avatar then yeah I'd probably dress her/him/them up. It just sounds like an extension of Sindy Doll to me.

Definitely Flo, if I were a child today I'd be constantly nagging my parents to buy me cute shit for my avatar. They'd look at me murderously and with enough whinging and playing them out against each other I'd have quite the wardrobe, but it kind of took that article for me to make that click. Most reporting on the metaverse seemed to present it as if it was for your Facebook profile pic or to wear as a filter on Instagram.

I never dared sully my textbooks with notes and highlighter like other people, I was so ridiculously precious about them. But I love finding a secondhand book with little pencil notes in the margins 🤷 just preemptively spill some coffee in those books already and get to reading

I like the dial metaphor. And flo's best tip of total refusal (which probably goes together with spectacular clothes). I was looking through Sophie D'Hoore's collection (after it being discussed here) and noted that the model had pronounced dark circles under her eyes. I think I'll aspire to that

I love the fantastic clothes and total makeup refusal idea but it’s not going to get me through the average work day. I do find I wear makeup every day for the office now although a very low key look, I could definitely do with more liquid for the not-getting-any-younger skin and a decent mascara, which has become my bugbear after a few fails.
Is there anything I should know about sofie d’hoore since it’s come up? I don’t know anything about her but had bought a stripy tshirt dress of hers second hand I was wearing on the weekend, I was looking for very tshirt and shorts level of basics that look a little more together. micro I probably had the shadows under the eyes too 😁

time you are my style icon 😁

I have a Sophie d'Hoore wide skirt in a really pale lilac. I got it in a Fenwicks sale. It's so beautiful - I explored having it taken up but the alterations lady said the material was so dense she couldn't/ wouldn't do it.

poppy that skirt sounds lush, show us a photo if you can. Why do you want taking it up? Does it touch the floor ? Or do you prefer a different length?

dark under the eyes, I think if I try that look people will either avoid me, give me money or call social services. Talking of which, just did my passport photo and oh my goodness I look shocking.

Have a look at Dick Page, the makeup artist's work, the editorial stuff. He really does that, is she wearing makeup thing but not in that naturally enhanced I'm just so naturally beautiful thing, it's very different (fashion-y) and if you study it closely enough you'll see that making dark under eyes or eye bags look 'natural' like that is very different from I'm lucky to get five hours of sleep in sometime this week.

Back to Isabelle Huppert, I don't think she's going blush free. She just wears it low and swept to the back, a sort of soft nude/cantaloupe shade that also works as a soft contour to give dimension.

Sofie d'Hoore is a Belgian designer but she doesn't fit in with the other more famous Belgian ones. Probably does sit a bit alongside Margaret Howell, it doesn't look like much on the hanger and then when you try it on it's an 'ooh, wait, oh yes, I like this, swish swish' kind of discovery. Definitely more feminine and less austere than MH though.

You know the silly advice to come up with a few words that describe your style? I always struggled with that, but now I have at least one word. Neurotic ! 😎

Thanks for IH's blush insight, bo

Red, I met you and can confirm that you look wonderful! (wags finger at needless self-criticism)

Thank you micro 😀
well, the passport photo doesn’t look wonderful. Definitely not using it, tomorrow I will try to get a better one.
BTW, I am not a happy bunny as my MH fine merino cream socks have been mixed in the wash with all sorts of DH and DD sports clothes and now I can only find one, the other must be in sock cemetery. They were just a pair of socks , nothing special looking but perfect weight and oh so comfy.

I mourn your socks red. I've also just had a laundry mishap with a much-loved wool blend top that was just perfect for layering but is now shrunk. Will try and resurrect it with the handwash-with-hair-conditioner trick, but I am not hopeful.

Anyway, I popped by to say that there is a very silly piece in today’s Times that gets a full house on Parisienne chic bingo. Apparently we should all start listening to Ines de la Fressange (again)

Will try and find a share token so you can all enjoy the hard eye roll

Heh! I came here to^^ post a link to that article:

Why I want to look like a French woman.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/7f769ecc-b76b-11ed-a513-158bcb2665eb?shareToken=b7f9c50b8ec956894c6a5a7015cc2f833_
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Red I am 5'3, and my Sophie d'Hoore skirt is just wee bit too long for normal wearing in the day, I think - it's about 3" above my ankles. ^

So I am resigned to wearing it for special day time events and in the evenings. I have a couple of tops I've had for ever, that go really well with it, quite by chance. One is a pale lilac lace blouse with tiny beads that I got in Phase Eight when they still sold nice things. I'll try to remember to take a photo at the weekend.

Do I need to start sending invoices again 🤨 Well, lurking journos, I've thought up a term after seeing Dries van Noten's latest show, feel free to use it, we're seeing a greynaissance (US spelling would work better though). Grey seems to no longer be that dodgy corporate colour (and is friendly with some lilac, so you're already ahead of the curve Poppy), cue lots of articles about the 'new' neutral.

Much thanks for the share token, will go read it in a bit.

I swear one of my best friends' had a similar gold coat with an ivy leave pattern for her bat mitzvah from the second pic, just a cooler shade of gold. I'm ridiculously excited about the sighting of cognac boots, I might finally find my perfect pair.

Also, spotted, destroying your jeans by pavement seems to be a thing again and ill advised as it is, I'm all over it, again.

Ok, I've read the article, I want my brain cells back. Bleurgh.

I'd love a picture of the Sophie d'Hoore skirt, can't quite picture it!

I had a Day Out yesterday that was nothing to do with shopping but did give me 10 minutes in a Uniqlo store before my train, just long enough to try on some U pleated joggers for size and check out a few other U things. For the joggers you'd probably need to go down at least one size. They didn't have them in olive (the colour I want) and there wasn't even time to consider properly how they looked when I tried them on - I mean it wasn't an instinct 'Wow!' moment but, if they come back in stock in the right size / colour I'll probably give them a go. (Ironically they emailed me while I was out to tell me they'd had some returned but by the time I saw the email, they'd gone.)

The trenchcoats are as Red reported, huge and quite flimsy so no more pining over them. The jersey tailored jacket looked better than predicted but not enough to warrant spending £100 now I'm not working. The nylon shirt jacket also looked unexpectedly good - the word 'nylon' had put me off - and it would be of more use, but they only had it in large sizes. The 'dark grey' colour has a hint of dark green (unless it was the lighting) and the 'beige' is really off white. That's the end of my report.

A requested I attach a photo of my skirt. The best lighting was in the bathroom hence the plumbing accoutrements in the background. It's a reasonable portrayal of the colour on my iPad - it is a lovely soft pale lilac or clear greyish pink, with no yellow in it. It's 74 cm from the bottom of the waistband.

It seems to be a common Sd'H style - it's flattering because of the placement of the pleats. Plus pockets! Oxfam have a shorter black one available online in my size, which I am going to cogitate on. I have a Agnès B fitted Milano knit jacket (another sale bargain) that would look very good with a full skirt, I think.

Poppy the skirt comes up very off white on my phone. Regardless, I absolutely love it. I think is a great piece and I agree that the placement of the pleats is in a very neat position.
I am surprised they say it cannot be taken up, again it might be the phone not translating well the truth of the fabric. Have you asked a different place?

I suspect it may actually be a sort of circle skirt so it's really difficult to get a neat hem on it because you have to fold a lot of fabric into a smaller space which is really difficult with a stiffer fabric (this will probably only make sens to anyone having had to deal with a curved hem). I suspect the seamstress didn't want to do the job as it would be really annoying to do and the results won't be perfect so it could then potentially be a further nightmare with a customer who is unhappy and refusing to pay for it. Lovely skirt though, it really shows off the Sofie d'Hoore design strength of being very careful considered but at first glance looking like any other skirt.

I found another article of a fashion journo trying to make sense of seeing things on the catwalk we've already got in our closets, should be paywall free if you haven't maxed out at the NY times already this month.

Flo, I gotta say, love your determination to believe in the redeemability of these 'joggers'. <Looks for where I left the tissues>

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What are you going to do bo if I really like the joggers and insist / pretend they work for me? Are you going to be kiiiind or will it be time for some tough love?

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No! Please, not here, save this place from be kiiinnnndd <wrings hands, stamps foot>

Also, bo‘s wonderfully heavy hand with her <gavel> should prevent such nonsense 😁

Love the closing line from that NYT article - “On Instagram, it was probably fabulous. Close-up, it was blinding.”

That’s right, a few of us don’t actually live in the Bold Glamour filter-tastic Stepfordian influencer dystopian online fantasy.

You're a big girl Flo, I'm sure you can handle a resounding you look shit on here. You'll double down and cry I don't care about flattering with a very flourishing flounce only to then slink back in after Mr Flo said we were right