Lips - is this what people are aspiring to these days?

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An old boyfriend has shared photos to advertise a friend's beauty salon. I know I'm not their target audience, but I'm still shocked that this is what women are supposedly looking for these days.
I do get that if you have thin lips it'd be nice to have them plumped up a bit. But these are so clearly fake.
Am I just an old fuddy-Duddy with no idea?

@Miseryisabutterfly

I am not black, does that mean my naturally big lips don’t look natural?!

Your lips are natural. Therefore, they will look natural. I’d bet my house that yours don’t look like smooth blow up doll lips like the photo uploaded by the OP!

I really don't know what they are seeing when they look in the mirror. This shouldn't be an aspirational thing for young women. It just looks so artificial. I asked my DS what he thought. He doesn't find that at all attractive and I am pretty sure that he isn't the only one.

Sex doll look. Yuk.

Love Island having this conversation now. Ish!

Yes my niece has had it done, she looks awful. She loves them…

You can have a little botox above top lip that lift it slightly which helps if you have a thin top lip
I have it done

Here is a question.

So if the "inflated" lips (via invasive procedure) is a beauty look unlinked to sexual expectations/pornography etcv

Why is it that only very young people have these procedures?

Or if I am being stupid here; is the question really "why are people over 50/60 not having the procedure shown by the picture of the OP?? (after all this is only about beauty / a display of financial worth)"

They are. Donatella Versace would be the first famous example that comes to mind, but anybody who's spent any time in one of the more chi-chi ski or beach resorts or around any of the international Fashion Weeks will have seen plenty of facial alterations on people of all ages - the delightful term for the demographic used to be 'Eurotrash'. It's just less common with Brits, at least in my experience.

@Millymog

Here is a question.

So if the "inflated" lips (via invasive procedure) is a beauty look unlinked to sexual expectations/pornography etcv

Why is it that only very young people have these procedures?

Or if I am being stupid here; is the question really "why are people over 50/60 not having the procedure shown by the picture of the OP?? (after all this is only about beauty / a display of financial worth)"

I don't think it is just young people. I'm late 20s now, I remember the shock meeting my aunt's best friend when I was 14 as she was a living Barbie with the filled lips etc. I recently saw an older woman that looked similar.

Also PPs mentioning the Brats dolls as an influence but no, I don't think so. I think the Kardashians are behind this and it has been perpetuated over time in various places like Love Island and so on.

They are gross, and mutant (by which I mean artificially mutilated).

looks like they have been pumped up with a bicycle pump, and they look hideous.. they usually look quite bad from a sideways look at the face too. some women use lip liner on them too, and gloss,which makes things worse.Pretty women ruining their facial looks for some reason or other.

Disclaimer: I have naturally full lips that I was bullied mercilessly for growing up (fish lips was probably the kindest thing I got) so I’m sort of enjoying the trend as all of a sudden people want to know where I got my amazing lips done!

However, something I don’t think has been mentioned, is the impact of all of theses cosmetic procedures on child development.

Babies/toddlers/small children need human expression to develop secure attachments and to learn. If our faces are less able to show ‘true’ reactions because they move less due to Botox and fillers, how does this impact on attachment and emotional and social development. How can a baby discern delight from discouragement?

Anecdotally, I have seen an increase in children who are struggling to regulate their emotions (EYFS Teacher in a school) in my cohort of 29 children, the three children with cosmetically enhanced mothers each really struggle with reading other people’s emotions, regulating their own, following boundaries (again related to reading pleasure and displeasure on faces) and resilience. They each really struggle to keep on trying if something goes wrong, and become very upset. They share a lot of the same behavioural traits as the children I have taught who have witnessed domestic violence. To me that is the most concerning factor.

At home time I always pass over a highlight of the child’s day. I know from their words that the mother’s are proud of their children but their faces show nothing. One had suffered a loss of a family member (covid) recently and the only reason I knew to comfort her was her eyes were crying, otherwise her face was emotionless.

It must be incredibly stressful for a small developing mind . In fact my most enhanced mother’s child cuddles her mum whole heartedly, but never holds eye contact when she is speaking to her. I wonder if the lack of feedback is why.

It's the porn star look. Big, fat lips to mimic an aroused female, advertisers have always used this tactic. It looks awful. Mouth always slightly open ready for you know what. You can kid yourself all day that it's not but it is. Just more shit for women to buy and more effort to keep up with it. It goes with the fake hair, fake nails, fake breasts, fake eyelashes, fake tan and so on.

It wont end well for the ones that have it done to extreme, look at Lesley Ash.

I think that with regard to the afore mentioned celebrity, did they not have a reaction? Or maybe something went awry with the amounts/placement/product?

Anyway. It does go to show that all procedures are not able to be reversed to get you back as you were.

As she said, homework is key. One because you have no idea at all what you might be injected with and two, I think that practitioners who are reputable would surely not disfigure young women to the extent that some clearly are doing.

I understand that it is the woman’s face/body to do with as they please but I have deep concerns that some might just not understand the implications/risks involved.

I cannot see what is beautiful about an immovable face with exaggerated features. It may make a stylish photo. It just doesn’t look right in real life.

I hate coronavirus

I hadn’t really though of that aspect at all with regards to children. That is truly sad. You

Sorry. Random ‘you’ sneaked in at the end.

I have mine like that. Obvious, large, with a lot of filler. Perfectly happy with them. I have no intention to get rid of them.

My appearance is my business, I don’t tend to comment on the appearance of others despite facing criticism myself, I think it’s because people who are happy with their looks have no need to comment on others’.

I’ve long adapted to people assuming that I’m vacuous/chavvy/uneducated just by looking at me. These days I just give a wry smile, I know what my credentials are, the people who need to know know too, and the rest of the world can be wrong if they want to be. 😊

@IHateCoronavirus wow that's interesting. One of my aunts has a lot of botox so she often can't make expressions, I struggle to interpret her mood so can't imagine what kids see.

If someone wants massive lips or boobs then that's their choice but I think it's ok to question where the pressure comes from.

@FuckinGoddess

I have mine like that. Obvious, large, with a lot of filler. Perfectly happy with them. I have no intention to get rid of them.

My appearance is my business, I don’t tend to comment on the appearance of others despite facing criticism myself, I think it’s because people who are happy with their looks have no need to comment on others’.

I’ve long adapted to people assuming that I’m vacuous/chavvy/uneducated just by looking at me. These days I just give a wry smile, I know what my credentials are, the people who need to know know too, and the rest of the world can be wrong if they want to be. 😊

Genuine question - you're obviously happy and confident with your informed decision - why would you do that to yourself?

these days I give a wry smile is a wry smile even possible if your lips are that big?

I get the "my appearance is my business" argument but an extremely inflated pair of lips invites attention and opinion, particularly if hundreds of pouting photos are posted on social media.

it's interesting to ponder on the reasons for (possibly permanently) surgically exaggerating a feature on your face and what influences such a drastic look.

I think it's taking a huge risk with a very sensitive easily damaged area of your face to achieve an image that likely won't be trendy in a few years.

I do because I want to - it’s really as simple as that. I know the risks, and decide to take them. I like the results, so I do it.

It does invite attention and opinion, I don’t particularly care. If you don’t understand why someone would “do that to themselves”, that’s fine - there are things in the world that you don’t have to understand. Or like. Or approve of. 🙂

I am incredibly fortunate to be at this blessed stage in my life where the opinion of other people, whatever it may be, is inconsequential and does not affect my life in any sphere. I have no more “have tos”, socially or professionally, I can do as I please and cater to my whims. This is a whim I have, so this is what happens.

It’s a good place to be.

@FuckinGoddess

I do because I want to - it’s really as simple as that. I know the risks, and decide to take them. I like the results, so I do it.

It does invite attention and opinion, I don’t particularly care. If you don’t understand why someone would “do that to themselves”, that’s fine - there are things in the world that you don’t have to understand. Or like. Or approve of. 🙂

I am incredibly fortunate to be at this blessed stage in my life where the opinion of other people, whatever it may be, is inconsequential and does not affect my life in any sphere. I have no more “have tos”, socially or professionally, I can do as I please and cater to my whims. This is a whim I have, so this is what happens.

It’s a good place to be.

Ok, so you do it because you believe it looks good, is that right?

Btw it's not a question of approval, I've no right to approve or disapprove in some sort of moral judgement way.

If it's a question of aesthetics we'll just have to agree to disagree.

I do think it's ultimately harmful in more ways than one but you sound like you've thought it through.

Sorry I'm not buying that the opinions of others is inconsequential to you. Would you want inflated lips if no one could see them?
"Because I want to" is a bit inane. It lacks any sense or reason and not really enlightening anyone!

I suppose I would compare it to ear stretching (with regards to the long term effects) which gained popularity in the nineties, where people gradually stretched their piercings to exaggerated sizes. With very inflated lips, the same stretching occurs and I've no idea how that looks as you age and your skin sags and loses elasticity and can't support the weight of fillers.

I think they look awful and it’s depressing how many young people are ruining their faces with fillers they really do not need. I cannot understand the desire to look so fake. It’s even worse when you can see the filler has started to migrate and they start looking like a riddler. Once people start messing about with their face it never looks the same again.

Each to their own, I think it looks ridiculous.
If you have thin lips and your unhappy then by all means have a bit of filler, but why do the majority go OTT. If it looks obvious, what’s the point.
Faye /Sharon on love island - lips so big they actually look painful.