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Royal style: we want more salwars and we're not sari about it!

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QueenOfTheAndals · 18/10/2019 11:00

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QueenOfTheAndals · 28/10/2019 14:18

It's also the Mail, so...

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AppleKatie · 28/10/2019 14:29

It’s a bit of a leap to suggest Meghan is abusing and isolating Harry on the back of a mooted-by-the-mail part time move to the country she is from.

Talk about bending to fit a pre agreed narrative.

Rhubarbisevil · 28/10/2019 14:33

Lol, a whole new Republican slogan is sitting right there:

Go F*nd Yourself

itswinetime · 28/10/2019 14:34

I agree buying a house in the US (out of their own money). And having a safe haven near Meghans family (Doria) and friends makes sense....There is a fair amount of 'off time' for the British royals so where Meghan and Harry choose to spend theirs isn't a big issue for me.

It does make me ask the question though if this life is so intolerable for them why do it? Drop the HRH, become non working royals and then they can choose what they do and don't want to do like Beatrice and Eugenie or completely off the radar like Peter and Autumn Phillips. They have a high enough profile they can still champion whatever cause they want but loose the confines of being royal. If they still want the royal life then I think as a pp said by all means send out the message

we accept scrutiny but will not accept outright lies

Perfect sentiment. But if they choose to keep their titles obviously the perks out weigh the negatives so while yes confront the lies the rest is probably best managed with the tried and tested don't complain don't explain strategy.

WineOrGinOrBoth · 28/10/2019 15:30

I said If & I also said I’m not saying she is abusive.

Ive been nothing but supportive of Meghan throughout. Read my other posts. But something is happening with Harry & his family & it’s since Meghan has come on the scene.

But equally it could be the age old problem of ‘The Spare’ which one my view is more likely.

But you cannot have the perks without the privileges. IMO.

BertrandRussell · 28/10/2019 15:48

“ yes confront the lies the rest is probably best managed with the tried and tested don't complain don't explain strategy.“
Which is, strangely, exactly what Meghan said in the infamous interview.....

BlingLoving · 28/10/2019 15:51

Perfect sentiment. But if they choose to keep their titles obviously the perks out weigh the negatives so while yes confront the lies the rest is probably best managed with the tried and tested don't complain don't explain strategy.

The sense I get is that they aren't complaining about the scrutiny. It IS the lies and the campaign against them.

As for the separation from his family - I'd suggest that this is quite normal in most families where when someone gets together with a new partner with a different frame of reference, there's some disconnect. Family think their way of doing things are completely reasonable and normal but then new partner suggests maybe they're not and the next thing there's war. Long term, in most cases I think, that dies down and everyone gets to some kind of compromise, possibly with some eye rolling and a bit of bitching on the sidelines or maybe that's just me and DH' families'

In this case, the RF have no idea how to react as all of this is outside of their experience. They think negative press is just something that they experience. They don't necessarily have the ability to see the levels to which it's impacting Harry and Meghan. Or if they do, they don't see that they can or should do anything.

As for Harry and Meghan giving up royal status etc I don't think it's as easy as that. Never mind anything else, H IS close to his family so it's a huge step to walk away. Plus, he's been brought up with expectations of duty and responsibility.

BlingLoving · 28/10/2019 15:53

@BertrandRussell fair point re Zara! I just like her in theory. I'd still rather spend an evening with Camilla, Kate or Meghan personally (I know, the Kate one is contraversial - generally she's viewed as a bit boring. But I have a sneaky suspicion she might be more fun in person).

BertrandRussell · 28/10/2019 16:10

I love how everything that is said by M&H doubters on here is in direct contradiction to everything ever said to every other couple about babies and birth and relationships with in-laws!

FiveTwoFaster · 28/10/2019 16:12

If someone offered me £100k for six days’ work I’d take their hand off! Provided she paid tax on it, why not? If social climbing people want to overpay extremely minor royals who receive not a bean from the taxpayer, I definitely don’t care enough to complain. Well connected people connect people shock.

BertrandRussell · 28/10/2019 16:19

@BlingLoving- ooh, I like this game- which 3 Royals would you go to the pub with? Hmm. Probably Camilla- but I generally don’t like women who treat other women like shit. Meghan? I bet she’s a “Honestly- I can have just as much fun with a fizzy water- but you have champagne!” type. I’ve met Sophie a couple of times-we have a charity in common - and she seems nice, but I think getting her hair down would be a struggle.

What I would really like would be to get the Queen anecdotally drunk and record everything she says. The thought that she is going to die without writing her memoirs breaks my heart.

BlingLoving · 28/10/2019 16:23

What I would really like would be to get the Queen anecdotally drunk and record everything she says. The thought that she is going to die without writing her memoirs breaks my heart.

Oh god yes. And by the time her letters are public etc, we'll all be dead.

Having said that, I love the queen but am fairly certain that she's still ultimately a product of her upbringing which means she might not exactly be the most ahem modern of people! Grin.

If I have to choose one, I'm still going with Kate. Can't articulate it. It's just a feeling. Maybe partly based on the fact that she does have friends but it's all very low key and they're not high profile while also being completely loyal. She must be doing something right as a friend to engender that kind of loyalty?

itswinetime · 28/10/2019 16:31

Oh royal ladies to go drinking with...interesting

Meghan while I would like to get to know her and it would be interesting to form my own opinion of her she's definitely not a drinker it will be all health juices and that's a no for me.

Kate didn't she start a women's drinking club at uni?? I think she could be fun if she switched off and let her hair down but she wouldn't would she.

So I think for me it would be the Queen, Prince Phillip and Anne they may not be my favourite royals but I bet they have some cracking stories to share after a few drinks.

itswinetime · 28/10/2019 16:33

And I appreciate Prince Phillip isn't a royal lady but I went a bit rouge Grin

BlingLoving · 28/10/2019 16:35

Meghan while I would like to get to know her and it would be interesting to form my own opinion of her she's definitely not a drinker it will be all health juices and that's a no for me.

The woman named her blog after her favourite red wine?! And there are old instagram posts of her and girlfriends on holiday that had a distinctly boozy vibe to them.... Yoga in the morning, beach in the afternoon, dinner and drinks at night time...

Philip. Good call. was thinking ladies but actually I have a huge soft spot for him and would love to spend an afternoon with a few drinks. He doesn't suffer fools but I love that about him - watched a documentary once with Philip Schofield I think doing something crazy like jumping out a plane for charity and Prince Philip's response was, "why"? I think there was an element of the DoE to it and I remember laughing and saying to DH that I suspect PP would far prefer if Schofield and decided to try something that actually tests some real skills or had a usefulness.

QueenOfTheAndals · 28/10/2019 16:40

Maxima would be my choice of royal drinking buddy - I bet she'd be a hoot and would get the rounds in! Agree re Meghan going for sparkling water or juice but Princess Anne would have a quick brandy and then head off to put the horses to bed. Kate, Letizia and CPM would nurse one chardonnay all night as they're watching their figures, CPV might (literally) let her hair down and turn out to be a laugh. Camilla would be onto the whisky and telling filthy jokes and Charlene would get legless and spill the beans on how miserable she is with Albert!

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BlingLoving · 28/10/2019 16:40

Just realised hypocrisy of being dubious about queen and not Philip. Both being products of their upbringing. Have slapped.myself around the face for unconscious misogyny and am definitely now keen for queen to join this fictional booze up with Philip. Or do them separately.

SerafinaPekkola · 28/10/2019 16:41

Oh, Philip is just vile. No idea why people excuse him for his utterly hideous behaviour. And he’s so bigoted his anecdotes wouldn't be interesting. How about Blackamoor Brooch woman? Prince Michael? She might have hidden complexities....

SerafinaPekkola · 28/10/2019 16:42

Princess Michael, I mean.

QueenOfTheAndals · 28/10/2019 16:43

@SerafinaPekkola I thought for a moment you meant Schofield! But agree with you. And "doesn't suffer fools" is just a way of describing someone who's upper class but incredibly rude!

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itswinetime · 28/10/2019 16:51

Phillip wouldn't be my choice of friend or as I said even my favourite royal but he has been with the queen for her whole reign he has meet people and seen things and been part of events that are a part of history...I don't have to like the man to think that an evening listening to him tell drunk stories would be interesting...but I can appreciate to others it's their idea of hell

Now how I would want to be my royal friend completely different list

Blingandrings · 28/10/2019 16:54

Zara seems like a lot of fun. I knew someone who was good friends with her and Mike and she had nothing but positive things to say.
Kate because I do think she would be a lot of fun away from the cameras.
Camilla because she would have a tale or two to tell.

Disfordarkchocolate · 28/10/2019 17:02

I'd go for Catherine, people with loyal friends tend to be nice. And, I'm sure she'd let her hair down a bit. Sophie - probably my favourite royal, she is very engaged with some charities I very much support. Maybe Eugenie, she just seems lovely.

Clankboing · 28/10/2019 17:07

I remembered the Philip Schofield / Prince Philip TV when I watched the Prince Charles Duchy of Cornwall programme the other day. I realised just how polite and kind Charles was in response to his interviewer in comparison.

frugalkitty · 28/10/2019 17:15

I'd go down the pub with Camilla and come home from the pub with Haakon Grin

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